18:00:48 <sarob> #startmeeting akanda 18:00:49 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Aug 17 18:00:48 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:50 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:00:53 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'akanda' 18:01:03 <sarob> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/akanda#Agenda 18:01:11 <sarob> roll call 18:01:22 <markmcclain> o/ 18:01:49 <adam_g> o/ 18:02:01 <puranamr> o/ 18:02:45 <sarob> morning/afternoon 18:03:04 <davidlenwell> o/ 18:03:18 <sarob> #topic outstanding actions 18:03:49 <sarob> get versioning sane across stable branches (#1481877 18:04:10 <sarob> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/akanda/+bug/1481877 18:04:10 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1481877 in akanda "stable/juno branches are versioned incorrectly" [Undecided,New] 18:04:37 <sarob> looks like this is mine 18:05:27 <sarob> i will do a bit of research and update the bug 18:06:03 <sarob> looks like that was the only outstanding action from last week 18:06:11 <sarob> moving on 18:06:22 <sarob> #topic critical bugs 18:06:50 <sarob> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/akanda/+bug/1470673 18:06:50 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1470673 in akanda "pbr version numbering doesn't match semantic versioning" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Sean Roberts (sarob) 18:06:56 <sarob> this is related to the other bug 18:07:51 <sarob> i will update this one based on the meeting notes from previous 18:08:15 <sarob> thats it for critical bugs 18:08:29 <adam_g> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1481463 18:08:29 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1481463 in akanda "cant delete akanda ports" [High,In progress] 18:08:54 <adam_g> addressed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209267/ 18:09:12 <sarob> sure lets talk about that one 18:10:08 <markmcclain> it's all old dead code that we left around because we thought we might make it an active feature 18:10:24 <markmcclain> we're better off just removing it 18:10:36 <sarob> ill review to push through 18:11:07 <sarob> done 18:11:41 <adam_g> cool 18:13:04 <sarob> #topic progress on bp 18:13:50 <sarob> davidlenwell: you around? 18:13:56 <davidlenwell> yep 18:14:18 <sarob> update on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/appliance-provisioning-driver 18:14:51 <davidlenwell> markmcclain and I are going to work today to break down the remaining work into smaller pieces 18:16:13 <sarob> the results partly going into the spec? 18:16:15 <davidlenwell> a patch for generic drivers support is in flight.. but there are some unanswered questions that we will work through today. 18:16:35 <davidlenwell> sarob: yes.. I'll update the "work items" in the spec to match what we break down today. 18:16:42 <sarob> davidlenwell: right on 18:16:51 <davidlenwell> so that spec is still not ready to merge .. don't merge it please 18:17:05 <sarob> davidlenwell: hands off here 18:17:20 <davidlenwell> 18:17:21 <davidlenwell> k 18:17:49 <sarob> you and markmcclain make some good progress 18:17:56 <davidlenwell> yessier 18:18:08 <sarob> davidlenwell: ;) 18:18:28 <sarob> adam_g: update on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/rug-scaling 18:19:01 <adam_g> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195366/ is the main patch for that, ready to review 18:19:13 <adam_g> ive been piling on some improvement / fixes on top of that 18:19:20 <adam_g> probably some more this week 18:19:34 <sarob> adam_g: sounds good 18:20:18 <markmcclain> in that series it would help if some others reviewed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198176/12 18:20:24 <sarob> markmcclain: update on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/appliance-ha 18:20:45 <markmcclain> no progress due to some other stuff 18:21:25 <sarob> markmcclain: should we plan on pushing this to the next release? 18:21:50 <markmcclain> possibly.. the driver work will impact this as well 18:22:10 <sarob> okay, i will go ahead and do that for now 18:23:06 <sarob> adam_g: update on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/nodepool-support 18:23:15 <adam_g> spec is still up awaiting review 18:23:48 <markmcclain> adam_g: sorry that one slipped through.. I'll go back and read it 18:23:56 <sarob> can i friend get an review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194882/ 18:23:57 <adam_g> np 18:23:59 <sarob> cool 18:25:26 <sarob> i believe https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/lbaas-v2-support and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/octavia-integration are blocked 18:26:01 <sarob> markmcclain: and davidlenwell breaking up the driver bp should help unblock 18:26:47 <markmcclain> they are 18:27:11 <sarob> puranamr: update on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/reduce-vm-footprint 18:27:53 <sarob> puranamr: you are still planning on adding performance details to this? 18:28:05 <puranamr> sarob: planning to break the content into two parts 18:28:33 <sarob> puranamr: two different bp or sections in the bp 18:28:34 <puranamr> one which captures the possible identified performance bottle necks and later supported with actual results 18:28:47 <puranamr> may be two bp would make sense 18:28:48 <markmcclain> I think this should be delayed 18:29:11 <sarob> markmcclain: which what? 18:29:27 <markmcclain> the reduce vm footprint 18:29:55 <puranamr> markmcclain: we thought of using this bp to add the performance activity too 18:30:16 <sarob> markmcclain: or you favor creating a separate bp? 18:30:17 <puranamr> the reduce vm footprint would be of lower prio though at this point 18:30:40 <markmcclain> the size of the vm image and tweaking the running configuration are independent of each other 18:30:55 <markmcclain> so should be distinct blueprints 18:31:05 <sarob> sounds good to me 18:31:11 <sarob> puranamr: you good with that? 18:31:14 <markmcclain> or realistically if the perf improvements are likely more bug sized 18:31:34 <markmcclain> vs having a super heavy weight write up 18:31:39 <sarob> markmcclain: we should start with a plan 18:31:47 <puranamr> sarob: ok with splitting 18:32:16 <puranamr> markmcclain: it is not heavy writeup, but spelling out identified areas for further focus 18:32:28 <sarob> markmcclain: it doesnt need to be a huge deal, just a plan that others will know where puranamr is going 18:32:39 <sarob> puranamr: what you said 18:32:42 <markmcclain> right.. realistically those are bugs with tags 18:33:01 <markmcclain> tag = vm-performance-improvement 18:33:11 <markmcclain> or something like that 18:33:15 <puranamr> sarob: markmcclain: sounds ok to me 18:34:17 <sarob> puranamr: if you can identify a group of performance improvements as bugs, it works for me 18:34:46 <puranamr> sarob: ok to call them out in the bp and then split as bugs? 18:35:26 <sarob> i think markmcclain was suggesting bugs instead of bp 18:35:50 <sarob> bp is generally for new features 18:35:57 <puranamr> sarob: ok 18:36:00 <sarob> bugs to fix whats broke 18:36:57 <sarob> was that what you were saying markmcclain? 18:37:46 <markmcclain> yeah.. and we can tag the bugs 18:38:01 <markmcclain> so that we can follow the series of performance improvements 18:39:13 <sarob> moving on 18:39:20 <sarob> #topic any other business 18:40:32 <adam_g> sarob, whats the plan for getting the liberty-2 milestone tagged? 18:41:50 <sarob> adam_g: im going to do bit of doubling the state of the repos 18:42:28 <sarob> adam_g: as we discussed if the repo hasnt got a patch since 2015.2.0b1, i will 18:42:37 <sarob> adam_g: push a dummy patch to move the head 18:42:53 <sarob> akanda-horizon is one for sure 18:43:07 <adam_g> sarob, im more curious about what schedule we're following. we set the release of liberty milestone-2 as 07-30 but we're still tracking in progress blueprints as if that date is still a month way 18:43:26 <adam_g> is it safe to say we're following our own schedule this cycle? 18:43:36 <sarob> adam_g: ah, 18:43:54 <sarob> adam_g: we hadnt formally discussed, 18:44:03 <markmcclain> yeah.. and we're only 2 weeks from the traditional milestone-3 18:44:45 <sarob> adam_g: i am leaning towards cutting 2015.2.0b2 this week 18:44:55 <adam_g> should we stop and set some dates for our remaining milestones and RCs? 18:45:10 <sarob> adam_g: lets 18:45:13 <markmcclain> yeah 18:45:14 <adam_g> i fear we'll still be spinning on the same blueprints when the rest of openstack is cutting their RCs 18:45:28 * adam_g pulls up release schedule 18:46:18 <adam_g> sarob, there are no complete liberty-2 blueprints 18:46:28 <sarob> adam_g: that is correct 18:46:29 <adam_g> https://launchpad.net/akanda/+milestone/liberty-2 18:47:09 <adam_g> ... so if you're cutting liberty-2 this week, those should be retargetting to liberty-3, making liberty-2 mostly bug fixes only 18:47:21 <sarob> adam_g: that sounds right to me 18:47:23 <adam_g> if thast the plan, lets set a date for L3 and stick to it 18:47:33 <sarob> adam_g: id like that 18:48:08 <adam_g> RCs start sept 21 18:48:39 <markmcclain> I was thinking that week or 28th 18:48:45 <adam_g> general openstack liberty-3 is sep 1-3 according to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule 18:49:25 <sarob> the dates for https://launchpad.net/akanda/liberty 18:49:32 <sarob> are the official ones 18:50:12 <adam_g> sarob, those need to change, then 18:50:35 <markmcclain> are we really going to have an FF period? if not I think we can collapse l3 on rc1 and release it 9/21 18:51:16 <adam_g> markmcclain, release == rc1? 18:51:16 <sarob> markmcclain: that sounds about right to me 18:51:39 <markmcclain> yes 18:52:29 <adam_g> ok 18:52:31 <sarob> everyone else following this? 18:53:34 <adam_g> if sarob tags the late liberty-2 this week and we cut RC1 on 09/21.. where do we put liberty-3? do we realistically expect everyting currently in https://launchpad.net/akanda/+milestone/liberty-2 to be done for l3? 18:54:01 <sarob> one month for each of the bp 18:54:02 <adam_g> its currently targeted for 09/03 18:54:35 <markmcclain> I was thinking we could just skip liberty-3 18:54:49 <adam_g> im not opposed to that 18:54:58 <sarob> markmcclain: hmm, simplier 18:54:59 <adam_g> the milestones didnt really do much for us 18:55:07 <adam_g> (so far) 18:55:42 <markmcclain> right 18:55:43 <sarob> few bugs would be moved to longer l2 18:55:55 <sarob> no real impact other than that 18:56:55 <sarob> sounds like we are in agreement 18:56:56 <markmcclain> I'm advocating we just cut liberty-2 now-ish and then our next tag will be RC 18:57:05 <adam_g> markmcclain, +1 18:57:11 <sarob> markmcclain: +1 18:57:22 <sarob> any one else? 18:57:26 <puranamr> markmcclain: +1 18:57:40 <adam_g> thats roughly 5 weeks, ya? 18:57:45 <adam_g> everyhone get to work :) 18:57:56 <sarob> adam_g: yup, and yup 18:58:04 <adam_g> almost at time 18:58:04 <sarob> ill call it there 18:58:39 <sarob> #action l3 will be eliminated 18:59:04 <sarob> #action sarob check up on his critical versioning bugs 18:59:15 <sarob> thats all folks 18:59:34 <sarob> #endmeeting