18:00:48 #startmeeting akanda 18:00:49 Meeting started Mon Aug 17 18:00:48 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:50 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:00:53 The meeting name has been set to 'akanda' 18:01:03 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/akanda#Agenda 18:01:11 roll call 18:01:22 o/ 18:01:49 o/ 18:02:01 o/ 18:02:45 morning/afternoon 18:03:04 o/ 18:03:18 #topic outstanding actions 18:03:49 get versioning sane across stable branches (#1481877 18:04:10 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/akanda/+bug/1481877 18:04:10 Launchpad bug 1481877 in akanda "stable/juno branches are versioned incorrectly" [Undecided,New] 18:04:37 looks like this is mine 18:05:27 i will do a bit of research and update the bug 18:06:03 looks like that was the only outstanding action from last week 18:06:11 moving on 18:06:22 #topic critical bugs 18:06:50 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/akanda/+bug/1470673 18:06:50 Launchpad bug 1470673 in akanda "pbr version numbering doesn't match semantic versioning" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Sean Roberts (sarob) 18:06:56 this is related to the other bug 18:07:51 i will update this one based on the meeting notes from previous 18:08:15 thats it for critical bugs 18:08:29 https://launchpad.net/bugs/1481463 18:08:29 Launchpad bug 1481463 in akanda "cant delete akanda ports" [High,In progress] 18:08:54 addressed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209267/ 18:09:12 sure lets talk about that one 18:10:08 it's all old dead code that we left around because we thought we might make it an active feature 18:10:24 we're better off just removing it 18:10:36 ill review to push through 18:11:07 done 18:11:41 cool 18:13:04 #topic progress on bp 18:13:50 davidlenwell: you around? 18:13:56 yep 18:14:18 update on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/appliance-provisioning-driver 18:14:51 markmcclain and I are going to work today to break down the remaining work into smaller pieces 18:16:13 the results partly going into the spec? 18:16:15 a patch for generic drivers support is in flight.. but there are some unanswered questions that we will work through today. 18:16:35 sarob: yes.. I'll update the "work items" in the spec to match what we break down today. 18:16:42 davidlenwell: right on 18:16:51 so that spec is still not ready to merge .. don't merge it please 18:17:05 davidlenwell: hands off here 18:17:20 18:17:21 k 18:17:49 you and markmcclain make some good progress 18:17:56 yessier 18:18:08 davidlenwell: ;) 18:18:28 adam_g: update on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/rug-scaling 18:19:01 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195366/ is the main patch for that, ready to review 18:19:13 ive been piling on some improvement / fixes on top of that 18:19:20 probably some more this week 18:19:34 adam_g: sounds good 18:20:18 in that series it would help if some others reviewed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198176/12 18:20:24 markmcclain: update on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/appliance-ha 18:20:45 no progress due to some other stuff 18:21:25 markmcclain: should we plan on pushing this to the next release? 18:21:50 possibly.. the driver work will impact this as well 18:22:10 okay, i will go ahead and do that for now 18:23:06 adam_g: update on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/nodepool-support 18:23:15 spec is still up awaiting review 18:23:48 adam_g: sorry that one slipped through.. I'll go back and read it 18:23:56 can i friend get an review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194882/ 18:23:57 np 18:23:59 cool 18:25:26 i believe https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/lbaas-v2-support and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/octavia-integration are blocked 18:26:01 markmcclain: and davidlenwell breaking up the driver bp should help unblock 18:26:47 they are 18:27:11 puranamr: update on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/reduce-vm-footprint 18:27:53 puranamr: you are still planning on adding performance details to this? 18:28:05 sarob: planning to break the content into two parts 18:28:33 puranamr: two different bp or sections in the bp 18:28:34 one which captures the possible identified performance bottle necks and later supported with actual results 18:28:47 may be two bp would make sense 18:28:48 I think this should be delayed 18:29:11 markmcclain: which what? 18:29:27 the reduce vm footprint 18:29:55 markmcclain: we thought of using this bp to add the performance activity too 18:30:16 markmcclain: or you favor creating a separate bp? 18:30:17 the reduce vm footprint would be of lower prio though at this point 18:30:40 the size of the vm image and tweaking the running configuration are independent of each other 18:30:55 so should be distinct blueprints 18:31:05 sounds good to me 18:31:11 puranamr: you good with that? 18:31:14 or realistically if the perf improvements are likely more bug sized 18:31:34 vs having a super heavy weight write up 18:31:39 markmcclain: we should start with a plan 18:31:47 sarob: ok with splitting 18:32:16 markmcclain: it is not heavy writeup, but spelling out identified areas for further focus 18:32:28 markmcclain: it doesnt need to be a huge deal, just a plan that others will know where puranamr is going 18:32:39 puranamr: what you said 18:32:42 right.. realistically those are bugs with tags 18:33:01 tag = vm-performance-improvement 18:33:11 or something like that 18:33:15 sarob: markmcclain: sounds ok to me 18:34:17 puranamr: if you can identify a group of performance improvements as bugs, it works for me 18:34:46 sarob: ok to call them out in the bp and then split as bugs? 18:35:26 i think markmcclain was suggesting bugs instead of bp 18:35:50 bp is generally for new features 18:35:57 sarob: ok 18:36:00 bugs to fix whats broke 18:36:57 was that what you were saying markmcclain? 18:37:46 yeah.. and we can tag the bugs 18:38:01 so that we can follow the series of performance improvements 18:39:13 moving on 18:39:20 #topic any other business 18:40:32 sarob, whats the plan for getting the liberty-2 milestone tagged? 18:41:50 adam_g: im going to do bit of doubling the state of the repos 18:42:28 adam_g: as we discussed if the repo hasnt got a patch since 2015.2.0b1, i will 18:42:37 adam_g: push a dummy patch to move the head 18:42:53 akanda-horizon is one for sure 18:43:07 sarob, im more curious about what schedule we're following. we set the release of liberty milestone-2 as 07-30 but we're still tracking in progress blueprints as if that date is still a month way 18:43:26 is it safe to say we're following our own schedule this cycle? 18:43:36 adam_g: ah, 18:43:54 adam_g: we hadnt formally discussed, 18:44:03 yeah.. and we're only 2 weeks from the traditional milestone-3 18:44:45 adam_g: i am leaning towards cutting 2015.2.0b2 this week 18:44:55 should we stop and set some dates for our remaining milestones and RCs? 18:45:10 adam_g: lets 18:45:13 yeah 18:45:14 i fear we'll still be spinning on the same blueprints when the rest of openstack is cutting their RCs 18:45:28 * adam_g pulls up release schedule 18:46:18 sarob, there are no complete liberty-2 blueprints 18:46:28 adam_g: that is correct 18:46:29 https://launchpad.net/akanda/+milestone/liberty-2 18:47:09 ... so if you're cutting liberty-2 this week, those should be retargetting to liberty-3, making liberty-2 mostly bug fixes only 18:47:21 adam_g: that sounds right to me 18:47:23 if thast the plan, lets set a date for L3 and stick to it 18:47:33 adam_g: id like that 18:48:08 RCs start sept 21 18:48:39 I was thinking that week or 28th 18:48:45 general openstack liberty-3 is sep 1-3 according to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule 18:49:25 the dates for https://launchpad.net/akanda/liberty 18:49:32 are the official ones 18:50:12 sarob, those need to change, then 18:50:35 are we really going to have an FF period? if not I think we can collapse l3 on rc1 and release it 9/21 18:51:16 markmcclain, release == rc1? 18:51:16 markmcclain: that sounds about right to me 18:51:39 yes 18:52:29 ok 18:52:31 everyone else following this? 18:53:34 if sarob tags the late liberty-2 this week and we cut RC1 on 09/21.. where do we put liberty-3? do we realistically expect everyting currently in https://launchpad.net/akanda/+milestone/liberty-2 to be done for l3? 18:54:01 one month for each of the bp 18:54:02 its currently targeted for 09/03 18:54:35 I was thinking we could just skip liberty-3 18:54:49 im not opposed to that 18:54:58 markmcclain: hmm, simplier 18:54:59 the milestones didnt really do much for us 18:55:07 (so far) 18:55:42 right 18:55:43 few bugs would be moved to longer l2 18:55:55 no real impact other than that 18:56:55 sounds like we are in agreement 18:56:56 I'm advocating we just cut liberty-2 now-ish and then our next tag will be RC 18:57:05 markmcclain, +1 18:57:11 markmcclain: +1 18:57:22 any one else? 18:57:26 markmcclain: +1 18:57:40 thats roughly 5 weeks, ya? 18:57:45 everyhone get to work :) 18:57:56 adam_g: yup, and yup 18:58:04 almost at time 18:58:04 ill call it there 18:58:39 #action l3 will be eliminated 18:59:04 #action sarob check up on his critical versioning bugs 18:59:15 thats all folks 18:59:34 #endmeeting