15:01:37 #startmeeting ansible-sig 15:01:38 Meeting started Tue Apr 14 15:01:37 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:39 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:01:41 The meeting name has been set to 'ansible_sig' 15:01:51 heya! anyone up to talk about some ansiblezz? 15:02:41 noonedeadpunk, mordred, mnaser, odyssey4me, gtema and whoever I forgot 15:02:45 o/ 15:02:51 o/ 15:03:15 I don't have any agenda to go over, so if nobody has any topics, we can exchange nods and move on with our lives 15:03:32 but I think mordred wanted to do some bike shedding? 15:03:35 I wonder if zbr may have something too. 15:04:02 Oh goody, we do love a good bike shed. 15:04:35 #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/713056/3/meta/action_groups.yml 15:04:47 there are some naming questions. the one about ironic/ironic_node made me think hard 15:05:40 well, first question: ironic vs baremetal 15:05:49 do we need to rename now? 15:06:04 or maybe we keep the os_ prefix for the ironic bits until we sort them out? (this has a risk of never getting done) 15:06:33 dtantsur: well - I don't think we necessarily need either ironic or baremetal in the name 15:06:49 oh wait - no, I'm stupid 15:07:27 if I recall correctly, 'ironic' creates a node/ports, while ironic_node can update/set maintenance/power/deploy.... 15:07:32 (or the other way around) 15:07:37 dtantsur: we can always do another rename in the future - but with the addition of the openstack.cloud prefix, I think now might be a good opportunity 15:07:55 dtantsur: I think the other way around 15:08:08 I think it was counter-intuitive :) lemme check 15:08:34 yup - you're right 15:08:40 we'll let's DEFINITELY change that 15:09:01 o/ 15:09:06 I think os_ironic -> ironic_node, while os_ironic_node -> mmmmmm 15:09:09 how about ironic -> baremetal_node and ironic_node -> baremetal_node_action 15:09:15 yeah, like that 15:09:34 I mean, I don't like it either, but that seems to be the least evil 15:09:57 does it make any sense at all to combine them instead? 15:10:08 * odyssey4me throws a cat among the pigeons 15:10:14 now - ironic is a bit special ... we COULD make a second collection for it - openstack.ironic 15:10:59 (I feel strongly that the other modules should all be in one collection - but the ironic stuff has a pretty radically different usage vector more frequently than not) 15:11:11 odyssey4me: it does, except that nobody probably has time for that 15:11:30 for the renaming i was quite unsure about what to do with the 'single word' modules, those somehow feel suboptimal 15:11:52 particularly when someone is looking for "wheres the module to do ....." 15:12:03 yeah - sshnaidm and I had some back and forth today on the review 15:12:09 jrosser: which example do you have in mind? 15:12:44 listener and member are two examples where they definitely need new names :) 15:12:47 zone, pool, memeber 15:12:54 and pool 15:13:03 right 15:13:26 yeah. zone ... zone should be dns_zone 15:13:32 good point 15:13:38 having some kind of namespace like that is ++ for usability 15:13:46 agreed 15:13:53 dns_ this stuff is all for designate.... and so on 15:14:00 baremetal_ for ironic 15:14:02 yeah 15:14:10 well - at least when the term is generic 15:14:13 are we in agreement re renaming ironic stuffs? 15:14:15 we don't need compute_server :) 15:14:22 heh, and there I was wondering whether it was gonna create me a solaris zone 15:14:38 #agreed os_ironic -> baremetal_node, os_ironic_node -> baremetal_node_action (and iterate from that) 15:14:41 ^^^? 15:14:46 what do y'all think about federation_identity_provider - would identity_provider be ok - or should we keep federation in there 15:14:50 dtantsur: ++ 15:14:59 federation_idp maybe 15:15:03 do we have or anticipate any other identity providers? 15:15:05 idp is a well understood term there 15:15:13 * dtantsur didn't know idp 15:15:17 jrosser: oh - that's a good point 15:15:26 dtantsur: well - for folks setting up federation, idp will make sense 15:15:43 who doesn't like a good tla? :) 15:15:47 yeah, federation_* would be good for idp, mapping, etc 15:16:00 oh, mapping is not exclusive to federation :/ 15:16:20 I don't think. Lemme check. 15:16:42 odyssey4me: it looked like it was a federation mapping 15:16:47 Oh, it is exclusive to federation. Never mind. 15:16:56 dtantsur: should ironic_inspect be baremetal_inspect? 15:17:18 yeah, fine with me 15:17:21 kk 15:17:29 and - should we do lb_ instead of loadbalancer_ ? 15:17:32 while IDP is well known in that space, identity_provider is more explicit. Could we not have the long one with a short alias? 15:17:49 and do the same with lb_ vs loadbalancer_ 15:17:56 or maybe do the short one with a long alias 15:18:06 mmm, neat 15:18:07 odyssey4me: I believe we can 15:19:11 dtantsur: we have port - which I was arguing could just stay that way, since it's a basic thing - but I think ironic also has ports -s hould we call port network_port? or is port good enough for the normal case here? 15:20:55 I'm fine with 'port' vs 'baremetal_port' 15:21:00 this is the way it is with OSC 15:21:19 actually, keeping an eye on OSC may be a good idea 15:22:05 ++ 15:23:06 yeah, I'll bet a lot of bike shedding has happened in OSC/SDK and we can ride the bike after it's been fixed. 15:23:15 indeed 15:23:42 any other aspects we should discuss explicitly? 15:23:48 yeah. I've collected these in the review - I'll make a pass through osc 15:23:55 then push up an actual full rename patch 15:25:11 cool 15:25:30 anything else? 15:27:05 okay, thanks folks! 15:27:34 #endmeeting