16:00:23 <cdent> #startmeeting api-sig 16:00:23 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Sep 28 16:00:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:24 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:27 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' 16:00:30 <cdent> #chair elmiko edleafe 16:00:30 <openstack> Current chairs: cdent edleafe elmiko 16:00:49 <edleafe> \o 16:01:33 <cdent> #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda 16:02:00 <cdent> #topic previous meeting action items 16:02:18 <cdent> #link last meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2017/api_sig.2017-09-21-16.00.html 16:02:25 <cdent> there were no actions items last week 16:02:42 <cdent> #topic open mic and new biz 16:03:19 <edleafe> I'm still not clear on what we should be doing now as a SIG to entice newcomers 16:03:54 <cdent> you feel like that needs to be an active process? I think it’s fair that right now is a bit of a lull 16:04:20 <cdent> when the SDK stuff ramps up (in whatever way it does) there will presumably be some activity 16:04:29 <cdent> but everyone I know has been swamped by “other stuff" 16:04:36 <edleafe> yeah, I know 16:04:54 <edleafe> just wondering if we were somehow supposed to be involved in the 'ramping up' 16:05:19 <cdent> I think flanders sent some email about that, and then there was stalling 16:05:26 <cdent> so it’s not us, at the moment 16:06:02 <edleafe> cool 16:06:08 <cdent> but it is probably something we should check in on 16:06:19 <cdent> #action cdent to check with flanders about sdk-related stuff 16:07:17 <cdent> that’s related to my new biz which is do we want to specify any forum sessions? 16:07:22 <cdent> #link forum http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ 16:07:34 <cdent> my thinking is that beyond whatever sdk stuff happens, no 16:08:15 <edleafe> yeah, I can't see holding an audience's attention with what we have 16:08:22 <cdent> indeed 16:09:00 <cdent> so the previous action items stands, and we’ll see where that goes I guess 16:09:16 <cdent> anyone else here have some new api-sig business they’d like to bring up? 16:09:57 <cdent> I’m taking the position that it is okay that we are lulling 16:10:12 <cdent> #topic guidelines 16:10:21 <cdent> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z 16:10:26 <edleafe> "lulling" 16:10:30 <cdent> no recent changes 16:10:46 <cdent> lulling is totally a word 16:10:57 <cdent> falling quiet 16:11:29 <edleafe> oh, I know 16:11:47 <edleafe> the intransitive use just sounds... weird 16:11:53 <cdent> yes 16:11:58 <cdent> all the more reason to use it 16:12:16 <cdent> here in the api sig we explore the boundaries of expression! 16:12:30 <cdent> #action edleafe explore the boundaries of expression 16:12:41 <cdent> #topic bug review 16:13:11 <cdent> #link bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg 16:13:16 <cdent> nothing new 16:13:46 <cdent> #topic weekly newsletter 16:13:51 <cdent> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter 16:14:22 <cdent> edleafe: I guess it’s been a while since I’ve done a newsletter so I can take this one unless you’re dying? 16:14:38 <edleafe> We're all dying, just at different rates 16:14:52 * edleafe gets philosophical 16:15:47 <cdent> then maybe you should do the newsletter? 16:15:58 <edleafe> why? Because I 16:16:06 <edleafe> I'm older? 16:16:20 * edleafe hates the apostrophe so close to the Enter key 16:16:32 <cdent> yeah, you have fewer theoretical chances to do one, and it is an honor and pleasure 16:17:09 <edleafe> ok, since you're so eager to dump it on me 16:17:29 <cdent> I’m not, but now you sound eager, so don’t let me stop you :) 16:18:10 * cdent has lost his place in this negotation 16:18:13 <cdent> Who is doing it? 16:18:17 <edleafe> elmiko 16:18:21 <edleafe> :) 16:18:24 <cdent> \o/ 16:18:59 <edleafe> I'll do it, since you are so indecisive 16:19:10 <cdent> \o/ 16:19:25 * cdent has a new strategy for future success 16:20:03 <cdent> since we’re here, I’ll go ahead and make rocky’s suggested fixes to the bottom of the doc 16:20:14 <edleafe> cool 16:23:12 <edleafe> looks like some more wg->sig changes needed 16:23:14 <edleafe> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/ 16:23:23 <edleafe> I'll try to get to that today 16:24:42 <edleafe> ok, cdent, how does the newsletter look? 16:24:55 <cdent> your summary looks fine, I made some small changes below, but a couple of them, as you say can’t be changed yet 16:25:13 <edleafe> ok, then I'll send it post haste 16:25:28 <cdent> \o/ 16:25:46 <cdent> then I think we’ll call this meeting done, unless any one has shown up with last comments? 16:25:57 <edleafe> one more 16:26:00 <cdent> (btw, I think dtantsur will come back to us after he is done relocating) 16:26:12 <edleafe> do we still send just to -dev? or also -sigs? 16:26:23 <cdent> (found a typo in the first paragraph() 16:26:59 <cdent> yeah, I don’t know the answer to that. My opinion is that the sig list is to talk about sigs. it’s discussion not broadcast 16:27:31 <cdent> so if we were to expand the broadcast it would be somewhere like the consumers list or ops list, not the sigs list 16:27:40 <cdent> otherwise we just end up with another big unfocussed list, which is dumb 16:27:55 <edleafe> makes sense. But since we mentioned our lulling, didn't know if it was worthwhile 16:28:33 <cdent> meh, I’d say for now stay the course until something happens 16:28:44 <edleafe> sent 16:29:42 <cdent> #endmeeting