16:00:14 #startmeeting api_sig 16:00:14 Meeting started Thu Sep 27 16:00:14 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:15 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:18 The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' 16:00:19 o/ 16:00:26 #chair cdent dtantsur edleafe 16:00:27 dammit you're too fast 16:00:27 Current chairs: cdent dtantsur edleafe elmiko 16:00:32 o/ 16:00:36 i even typed that one without copy paste 16:00:57 I was just about to press Enter when I saw you already started things 16:01:07 haha 16:01:17 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda 16:01:25 #topic previous meeting action items 16:01:32 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/ 16:01:39 don't think we had any actions last time 16:01:47 I was supposed to write something 16:01:49 action was to shut this down 16:01:56 The "fault tolerance" doc 16:01:57 ahh, thank you edleafe 16:02:06 totally didn't do it :( 16:02:27 happens to the best of us ;) 16:02:27 Well the other unspoken action item was to determine when to hold our office hours 16:02:45 #topic discuss office hours 16:02:56 so, i think it would make sense to keep this time as one of the hours 16:03:37 I could certainly be present for most weeks 16:03:38 any objection to just moving this meeting time over to -sdks? 16:03:54 Well, not a formal meeting time 16:03:57 right 16:04:01 just the time slot 16:04:08 but we'd have the office hours in -sdks, not here 16:04:22 i think so, that way we can free up the meeting channel 16:04:27 although it's probably not needed 16:05:06 i guess we'll need to update the wiki meeting times, is there also a governance doc we need to update? 16:05:16 dtantsur: you are the lone outlier, timezone-wise 16:05:21 yeah 16:05:23 when would be a good time for you 16:05:24 ? 16:05:30 this one is fine, but often conflicts with evening meetups. 16:05:41 like, now it's 6:05pm 16:05:49 I was thinking maybe your morning would be better for APAC people 16:05:54 having it within the previous 6 hours would be better 16:06:01 probably? 16:06:26 what's the convenient time for, say, China or Japan? 16:06:29 Is Thursday a good day for you? Or is there a better day of the week? 16:06:43 Thursday is fine 16:07:08 probably early in dtantsur's day would make the most sense to hit apac 16:07:24 also, should we maybe alternate weeks? 16:07:33 China is 6 hours ahead of Europe 16:07:49 elmiko: I don't think so. 16:07:50 i'm really concerned about loading up too much on dtantsur too 16:07:57 okay, so my 11am is 5pm there 16:08:02 He's tough, he can take it :) 16:08:06 lol 16:08:07 elmiko: I'm concerned nobody will show up :) 16:08:14 dtantsur: exactly 16:08:21 also yes, I used to be a PTL, I had to become tough :D 16:08:35 ok ok, i'm just trying to help here 16:08:37 =) 16:08:47 but I can allocate 11am-12pm on Thu to talk to people if they arrive 16:08:57 dtantsur ++ 16:09:05 (11am my time aka CET - I rarely show up earlier) 16:09:08 dtantsur: so maybe 10am your time? So it's not too late for Japan/Australia, too? 16:09:20 ah, a late riser 16:09:36 yeah 16:10:01 11am for me should be 6pm for them - not ideal, but better than what we have now for sure :) 16:10:30 and I think they tend to stay late anyway.. 16:10:40 so, we are talking about 0900-1000UTC and 1600-1700UTC for office hours then, is that accurate? 16:10:59 accounting for dst, of course 16:11:21 yeah, DST messes up everything :) 16:11:32 but I guess it's fine 16:11:33 Not with UTC!! 16:11:48 well, my time has DST, so it will oscillate between 10am and 11am for me 16:11:59 yeah, i just didn't want dtantsur to think we were trying to make him wake up for a 10am ;) 16:12:03 right 16:12:11 0900UTC == 1100CET 16:12:17 right now 16:12:26 yep, we're on summer time 16:12:29 I think besides announcing the office hours, if we put a "and any other time just ask in #openstack-sdks" we don't have to be super attentive to being around every week 16:12:29 anyway, it's okay 16:12:40 cdent ++ 16:12:45 I work for home, so these things are slightly more flexible 16:12:48 in fact the whole point of office hours is to avoid forced schedules 16:12:54 s/for/from/ (though also for ofc) 16:14:16 i'm thinking about what we need to update 16:14:25 is it just these 2: 16:14:30 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG 16:14:39 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ 16:14:39 ? 16:14:42 I'd like to maintain some semi-formal structure 16:14:51 Even if people rarely seek us out 16:15:04 me too edleafe, i think advertising the "official" hours is a good thing 16:15:17 I mean, how many times have we had anyone other than us (and maybe mordred) attend our meetings? 16:15:27 but i also would like to encourage to just ping if they have a question 16:15:37 edleafe ++ 16:15:42 elmiko: Sure, just like they can do now 16:16:03 yeah, good point 16:16:41 any thing else on this topic? 16:17:26 nope 16:17:37 i can take an action to propose changes for the schedule repo and wiki 16:17:51 #action elmiko update scheduling information about office hours 16:18:05 #topic open mic and ongoing or new biz 16:18:40 do we need forum space in berlin? 16:18:53 dtantsur are you going to hold a bof session or something? 16:19:01 edleafe: how often am I even anywhere? 16:19:02 I filled out the spreadsheet and did not request space 16:19:11 mordred: too often 16:19:15 edleafe: ah, great. thank you 16:20:02 any other topics folks want to bring up? 16:20:21 Nope 16:20:32 Nothing from the GraphQL folks (shock!) 16:20:36 heh 16:20:48 no way 16:21:00 #topic guidelines 16:21:10 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-sig,n,z 16:21:13 btw, I was going to be bring virtual booze but I virtually forgot 16:21:19 don't think there has been any change here 16:21:35 cdent: it's virtual! you can go back in time and grab some =) 16:21:38 cdent: no worries; I'm already virtually drunk 16:21:42 LOL 16:21:47 congrats! 16:22:17 what do we do about guidelines going forward, just work on them as needed? 16:22:41 yeah, sounds about right 16:22:47 k 16:22:58 If an issue comes up that needs discussion, there's always email 16:23:04 yeah 16:23:05 (and office hours!) 16:23:09 =) 16:23:13 #topic bug review 16:23:20 #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/1039 16:23:26 same story here, i don't think there is anything new 16:23:44 #topic weekly newsletter 16:23:51 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter 16:24:03 i think it's only appropriate that i take the last one 16:24:12 unless someone else wants it =) 16:24:31 Ooh, goody - lots of grammar corrections! 16:24:37 hahaha 16:24:47 are you volunteering then? 16:24:50 XD 16:24:57 thanks everyone. I need to dash into town, but will be back on teh internets at the top of the hour 16:25:05 later cdent o/ 16:25:12 ciao 16:26:04 it's been real 16:26:10 well, if edleafe isn't going to fight me for the last newsletter, i suppose we have reached the end of this meeting =) 16:26:19 anybody wanna drop some last words? 16:26:25 The end of *all* meetings 16:26:35 #endmeeting