00:00:23 #startmeeting api wg 00:00:25 Meeting started Thu Apr 16 00:00:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is etoews. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:00:26 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 00:00:28 The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' 00:00:40 hi 00:00:48 hi 00:01:07 hi 00:01:52 i've got a feeling we're just a trifecta today 00:02:09 trifectas for the trifecta tribunal 00:02:32 trifecats 00:02:37 lol 00:02:55 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda 00:03:04 not much out of the ordinary there 00:03:16 #topic previous meeting action items 00:03:35 lemme look at some of the previous meetings for action items 00:05:03 looks like there's some stuff here #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-03-26-16.00.html 00:05:42 whelp, got my action item done =D 00:05:53 yep. nice! 00:05:59 poor etoews with all his action items 00:06:08 woops wrong list 00:06:26 :) 00:06:29 lol 00:08:33 i haven't yet followed up on the meeting time thread on openstack-dev 00:11:02 jaypipes suggested an afternoon time to work with folks in asia 00:11:34 asia is a big place 00:11:59 etoews: by "afternoon time", you are referring to PST afternoons? 00:12:16 was that the 2:00UTC time? 00:12:20 JST 00:12:36 sorry...JST afternoons 00:12:47 etoews: well, I say that because 7pm EST is 10am Australia/Brisbane time 00:13:09 etoews: and I wouldn't call 7pm an afternoon time ;) 00:13:47 any suggestions for a workable time? 00:14:42 this is what i'm using to compare times #link http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/ 00:16:38 afternoon in Beijing makes the US times pretty late 00:17:17 I'm specifically *not* suggesting anything that would be a workable time for the EST folks :) because only late in the evening (i.e. now) would be workable 00:17:43 fair 00:18:03 we could do like 6am EST but that would still be like 7pm Beijing 00:18:10 probably too late 00:18:50 yeah... there's really no great solution. which is why the alternating week times were appropriate, IMO 00:18:58 6am EST would be 3AM PST 00:19:05 right :) 00:19:09 In other words, I approve =P 00:19:14 /s 00:19:17 lol 00:21:45 would 21:00 UTC be too early for asia? 00:22:11 or 22:00? 00:23:02 22:00 == 7 am tokyo and 6 am beijing 00:24:10 sounds kinda early 00:25:59 ya. i suppose we can leave it as is. 00:27:09 not sure how often i'll be able to make it. i'll try to mention it on #openstack-api more. 00:27:14 let's move on 00:27:42 #topic guidelines 00:27:53 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z 00:28:12 might be worthwhile to kick the ml thread again 00:29:55 on the meeting time? 00:29:59 yea 00:30:20 to what end? 00:30:40 i was hoping maybe to draw more folks out into the discussion, but maybe it's already at a dead end 00:31:17 okay. at the very least i'll mention that we discussed it. see if anyone has anymore input. 00:31:31 #action etoews kick meeting time ml thread 00:31:52 it's frustrating, but would be nice to hear from more folks who are attending from asia. it just seems like we aren't hearing from too many in that camp 00:32:02 ya 00:32:56 i'm not aware of having anyone from asia attend our meetings. otoh if we didn't have a reasonable meeting time for them then that would guarantee never getting any attendees. 00:33:03 anyhoo 00:33:11 isn't cdent in australia? 00:34:00 i dunno, one of the late meetings we had there were 3 of us and i think cdent said he was in australia 00:34:24 but yeah, nuff said 00:34:52 that's good to know 00:35:10 elmiko's template is looking mergable :) #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169415/ 00:35:27 \o/ 00:37:39 elmiko: you're awesome 00:37:48 aww shucks... 00:38:01 hmmmm...elmiko how were you envisioning pointing people at the template? 00:38:43 that's a good question, maybe we should add something to the root README? 00:39:35 i'll add one more patch to the review 00:39:59 i think it should more high profile than that 00:40:13 what did you have in mind? 00:40:14 maybe in the process doc? http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/process.html 00:40:35 that works 00:40:57 put the existing text into a section and add a new section briefly describing your template and pointing at it. 00:41:09 yea 00:41:15 and hey, our template ;) 00:41:24 :) 00:41:28 sorry that didn't occur to me before... 00:41:36 lol, no worries 00:41:46 it's a good idea 00:41:48 i definitely want to be able to share that as a link though 00:41:52 k 00:43:32 commented on the review for pedantry's sake 00:43:43 works for me 00:44:35 this looks mergable #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131320/ 00:46:03 done 00:46:13 I agree 00:46:28 yea 00:47:51 i still have some work to do on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167793/ 00:48:03 what about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155620/ ? 00:49:00 oops. lemme look. 00:49:27 might need more consensus, not sure as that reviewer list i think has all the PTLs 00:52:08 i think it has all of the CPLs 00:53:38 we definitely run the risk of approving something that none of the PTLs/CPLs have really agreed to though 00:53:50 i'm not sure what to do about that 00:54:34 i'm starting to think we might need something like a standing agenda item in the cross project meeting about guidelines that are ready to merge 00:54:47 that's a nice idea 00:54:56 at least get folks attention more 00:56:00 #action etoews to put mergable api-wg guidelines on the cross-project meeting agenda and attend c-p meetings 00:56:06 yay. more meetings. 00:56:12 lol 00:57:10 #topic other topics 00:57:32 i got an email from lauren sell of the openstack foundation about time/space at the summit for working groups 00:58:18 cool, seemed like we had a nice turnout last time 00:58:48 yep. and there's also the call for cross-project sessions too. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1LJZxdxE8P2F0WoULZEsRCXeqZP_VgH5nWUdZlbcA68M/viewform?c=0&w=1 00:59:10 nice 01:00:37 deadline is april 27 for c-p session proposal 01:00:43 we can discuss later 01:00:46 #endmeeting