16:00:02 <cdent> #startmeeting api-wg
16:00:05 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Dec  8 16:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
16:00:06 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
16:00:09 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg'
16:00:10 <cdent> #chairs elmiko etoews
16:00:18 <cdent> who's here, say hi.
16:00:21 * cdent makes coffee
16:00:27 <elmiko> hi
16:01:54 <cdent> oh noes, just the two of us?
16:01:58 <cdent> edleafe?
16:02:03 <edleafe> \o
16:02:11 * edleafe was getting more coffee
16:02:17 <elmiko> +1
16:02:27 <cdent> coffee++
16:04:43 <cdent> okay, lets get started
16:04:56 <cdent> #link agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda
16:05:03 <cdent> #topic: old business
16:05:25 <cdent> #link meeting notes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-12-01-16.00.html
16:05:42 <cdent> there was one action item on me to clean up references to api impact in the wiki, I did that
16:05:49 <scottda> Hi
16:05:53 <cdent> replaced it with directions for other ways to get out attention for important reviews
16:06:23 <cdent> s/out/our/
16:06:30 <elmiko> nice
16:06:42 <cdent> #topic open mic
16:06:45 <cdent> nothing on the agenda
16:06:53 <cdent> anyone have anything they'd like to talk about?
16:06:53 * elmiko starts the beat-box
16:08:19 <cdent> looks like no
16:08:28 <cdent> #topic guidelines
16:08:37 <cdent> #link under review: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z
16:08:57 <cdent> looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399131/ can be merged
16:09:13 <cdent> and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405515/ can be frozen
16:09:14 <cdent> agree ?
16:09:36 * elmiko looks
16:09:37 <edleafe> yep
16:09:48 <elmiko> +1 for merge
16:10:03 <elmiko> and freeze
16:11:49 <cdent> with etoews not around, I'll violate protocol a bit and +1 his +2
16:12:08 <cdent> done and done
16:12:46 <cdent> #topic bug review
16:12:49 <cdent> no new bugs
16:13:01 <cdent> anybody have any bugs they think should exist?
16:13:02 <etoews> oops. i'm around but fighting a fire. sorry i missed the first notification.
16:13:19 <cdent> etoews: no worries, fire trumps guideline
16:14:13 <cdent> # topic newsletter
16:14:19 <cdent> #link etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-wg-newsletter
16:17:29 <cdent> anybody feeling saucy enough to write the gripping first paragraph? (I've done the rest)
16:18:19 <elmiko> "it was a cold and dreary hour that day in freenode..."
16:19:39 <elmiko> "it was the best of guidelines, it was the worst of guidelines", better?
16:21:44 <cdent> it is a far far better guideline
16:21:51 <elmiko> hahaha
16:22:06 <cdent> okay, how's what we see there?
16:22:37 <elmiko> looks good to me
16:23:08 <cdent> must be time to ship it then
16:23:13 <elmiko> +1
16:23:15 <cdent> will do that after the meeting ends
16:23:23 <cdent> #topic end matter
16:23:29 <cdent> anything else?
16:23:36 <elmiko> nothing from me
16:23:47 <edleafe> just the feeling of powerlessness
16:23:55 <elmiko> heh
16:24:04 * edleafe thinks cdent knows what I'm talking about
16:24:17 <scottda> Yeah, tough to sell smart API changes to Cinder team as well edleafe
16:24:36 <edleafe> scottda: these aren't even changes
16:24:37 <cdent> should we shut down for the 22nd? What about the 29th?
16:24:49 <edleafe> they are brand spanking new greenfield APIs
16:24:54 <elmiko> cdent: that seems reasonable to me
16:24:55 <scottda> :(
16:25:03 <elmiko> edleafe: ouch...
16:25:25 <edleafe> Well, cdent and I teamed up to fight back the forces of evil
16:26:03 <scottda> I've had to retreat and regroup myself.
16:28:35 <cdent> It's a common problem. It's hard to do good HTTP when habits have already been set.
16:28:50 <cdent> Especially when people aren't really wanting to do with HTTP what HTTP is for.
16:29:06 <cdent> but anyway, that's a topic best saved for shady booths in smokey bars with beverages
16:29:15 <cdent> Shall we end the meeting?
16:29:34 <edleafe> +1
16:29:47 <scottda> https://review.openstack.org/401941 is what I had issues with...thands edleafe for chiming in
16:29:54 <scottda> s/thands/thanks
16:30:59 <cdent> #endmeeting