20:02:04 #startmeeting barbican 20:02:05 Meeting started Mon Dec 21 20:02:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:02:06 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:02:08 The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' 20:02:13 hi 20:02:32 #topic Roll Call 20:02:35 * redrobot waves at elmiko 20:02:41 o/ 20:02:42 o/ 20:02:51 o/ 20:03:08 0/ 20:03:11 o/ 20:03:54 a few more barbicaneers here than I was expecting 20:04:02 as usual the agenda can be found here: 20:04:04 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican 20:04:16 #topic Action Items from last week 20:04:25 o/ - sorta here:) 20:04:28 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-12-14-20.00.html 20:04:45 The only action item from last week was for me to finish cleaning up the launchpad mitaka-1 page 20:05:04 which I did 20:05:07 and you can see here: 20:05:08 #link https://launchpad.net/barbican/mitaka/mitaka-1 20:05:35 that's it for action items 20:05:40 let's move on to today's agenda 20:05:55 #topic Questions about steps to integrate Barbican with DevStack 20:06:04 kfarr hi 20:06:31 redrobot, hi sorry was coming back from another meeting 20:06:51 kfarr no problem. you have the only topic on the agenda for today 20:07:04 Ok, so I've been working on trying to integrate Castellan with Nova and Cinder 20:07:22 nice, kfarr++ 20:07:36 and the way the old built-in key managers would work in those projects was that they would use a fixed key 20:07:49 that was the default in DevStack 20:07:58 but Castellan doesn't have that option because it's not secure 20:08:25 so if those projects start using Castellan, it would be nice to be test with Barbican in the gate 20:08:38 * would be nice to test with Barbican in the gate 20:08:46 for cinder and nova 20:08:58 since that would be the new default 20:09:00 kfarr: if you get something setup with barbican at the gate please ping me, i would love to get something setup for our sahara testing too 20:09:11 elmiko, sure! 20:09:45 kfarr with you so far... 20:09:49 I guess my question was: has anybody already looked at getting barbican integrated with DevStack by default 20:10:01 or is there anything stopping this from happening that I don't know about? 20:10:21 o/ 20:10:21 kfarr so Adam Harwell (rm_you) did a ton of work to make it easy to enable Barbican within DevStack 20:10:37 redrobot, yes the devstack plugin 20:10:51 as far as i know .. if you enable it in localrc barbican will there in devstack 20:11:06 kfarr so, to add Barbican to a gate, you just need to enable the plugin. 20:11:23 kfarr and then make sure the Castellan config is pointing to Barbican on localhost 20:12:06 Right, but do we want to change the gate to enable Barbican, or do we want to change DevStack so that Barbican is enabled by default always 20:12:14 Is there a preference 20:12:41 kfarr I think it's best if people have to opt in to enable Barbican. 20:12:48 agree 20:12:58 ++ redrobot 20:13:17 yea, +1 to opt-in 20:13:29 +1 on that from here 20:13:56 Ok, so maybe leave the original gate that has a plain DevStack, then create a second that enables Barbican? 20:14:17 o/ 20:14:50 kfarr maybe i'm not understanding the question properly... I thought you were asking if every devstack install should enable Barbican.... which is why I think opt-in is better. 20:15:13 kfarr but I think maybe you were asking if an existing DevStack gate should be edited to add Barbican, or whether a new gate should be set up ? 20:15:28 redrobot, sorry I am not explaining well 20:15:31 yea, i thought the former too. oops 20:15:44 That was sort of two questions combined into one 20:16:15 so for the first question, opt-in would be best 20:16:18 Ok, so we were in agreement that Barbican should not be enabled by default in DevStack 20:16:44 for the second question, I think it should be up to the project team to decide whether to change their existing gates or add new ones 20:16:54 then I took that and jumped to the conclusion that 20:17:11 right 20:17:17 I think a new one would probably be better, since you can start by adding it to the "experimental" pipeline 20:17:41 Yeah that makes sense 20:18:24 +1 20:18:35 Ok, well part of my goal of bringing it up now was to put it on people's radar that I was going to try doing this. 20:18:35 kfarr awesome. 20:19:08 kfarr just for sake of completeness, you'll be adding these to the appropriate projects? 20:19:08 That's all I've got 20:19:14 i'm very curious about this one, i would really like to figure out how we can enable a barbican gate for the sahara ci. i think it will take us time thought. 20:19:18 *though 20:19:21 kfarr ie, for Nova, you'll add a nova gate that enables Barbican, etc 20:19:28 redrobot, yeah I think so 20:20:18 elmiko you should be able to copy and paste code after kfarr is done 20:20:37 rellerreller: yea, i hope so =) 20:21:33 ok, moving on 20:21:37 The gates and CI infra are not easy. I have been trying to setup a local CI here for testing. It has not gone well :( 20:21:40 #topic Mitaka Mid-cycle 20:21:51 rellerreller :( 20:22:03 The mid-cycle is going to be coming up soon 20:22:09 rellerreller: i'd love to talk off-line sometime, i'm trying to do something similar for sahara 20:22:10 we have an etherpad set up for it already: 20:22:22 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-mitaka-midcycle 20:22:30 Feel free to add mid-cycle topics to it 20:22:36 elmiko that sounds good to me. Ping me whenever. 20:22:42 will do 20:22:44 I for one will be wanting to review Blueprints 20:22:51 so we can get a few landed 20:23:06 * rellerreller is sad that I cannot go :( 20:23:13 redrobot: do you know if the ossp mid-cycle will be in the same building/campus as the barbican? 20:23:22 we'll miss you rellerreller 20:23:23 :( 20:23:33 rellerreller :( 20:23:39 elmiko yup. we have rooms across the hallway from each other. 20:23:43 ooh neat 20:26:11 sometime before then I'll review the Mitaka Summit notes and add anything that we need to revisit 20:26:30 that's all I have on the agenda for today 20:26:34 #topic Open Discussion 20:26:44 any other topics that we can discuss? 20:27:17 redrobot, just wanted to ket you know I updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241068/ the blueprint for getting Castellan in the Swift Keymaster :) 20:27:45 o\ 20:28:01 diazjf1 ok, I'll take a look at it. 20:28:18 redrobot, awesome thanks 20:30:47 sounds like we're out of topics for today 20:30:48 so we can have our 30 minutes back 20:30:49 thanks everyone for coming 20:31:01 #endmeeting