20:01:20 #startmeeting barbican 20:01:21 Meeting started Mon Feb 29 20:01:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:01:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:01:25 The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' 20:01:30 redrobot's true identity is revealed 20:01:31 better 20:01:34 haha 20:01:40 #topic Roll Call 20:01:48 o/ 20:01:48 o/ 20:01:51 o/ 20:01:51 o/ 20:01:52 o/ 20:01:56 o/ (sorta) 20:02:01 o/ 20:02:24 o/ 20:02:34 Lots of barbicaneers here today 20:02:41 as usual our agenda can be found here: 20:02:45 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican#Agenda 20:02:53 and anyone is allowed to add topics 20:03:02 and it looks like a couple of you did! 20:03:40 o/ 20:03:46 o/ 20:03:52 o/ 20:04:16 #topic Action Items from last meeting 20:04:23 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2016/barbican.2016-02-22-20.00.html 20:04:39 Looks like there was just one unassigned action item. 20:04:51 which should probably be a #help item, not an #action item. 20:04:53 so 20:05:32 #help We need someone to take over Adam Harwell's CR 20:05:41 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251168/ 20:06:06 0/ 20:06:08 o/ 20:06:25 I thought someone did offer to take it over last week? 20:06:56 woodster_ I didn't see anyone assigned to the action item... but I was also only here for like 5 min last week 20:07:10 diazjf did anyone volunteer to pick up Adam's CR? 20:07:27 I believe mp1 20:07:33 wanted to take a look at it 20:07:46 I'll ask him to join 20:07:52 me . for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251168/ 20:07:59 i did .. please assigned to me 20:08:15 please assing to me ... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251168/ 20:08:28 will catch up with rm_work .. if have any questions 20:08:28 hi panatl ! I don't think I've met you before. Would you mind introducing yourself? 20:08:46 we did ... in San antonio 20:08:47 :) 20:08:50 * redrobot is terrible with names... and even worse with IRC handles 20:08:52 was with Arun 20:08:53 o/ 20:08:56 super late sorry 20:09:03 hi mp1 20:09:20 redrobot: we met .. i am Pankaj Khandar from HPE 20:09:32 mp1 we were just wondering if you signed up to work on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251168/ ? 20:09:54 panatl I do remember you! ... just didn't know your handle :) 20:10:06 cheers from silos :) 20:10:20 mp1 if not panatl was willing to work on it 20:10:22 I did, but it looks like panatl volunteered to work on it in the meeting last week? 20:10:50 I'm busy with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282059/ 20:11:01 mp1 ok, sounds good 20:11:20 #action panatl will take over rm_work's CR https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251168/ 20:11:31 ok, moving on 20:11:40 #topic Liaison Updates 20:11:41 thanks! 20:11:56 #link http://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons 20:12:19 I missed the oslo meeting this morning (shame on me) 20:12:50 hockeynut_afk any news from QE/QA? 20:12:56 guess not since afk 20:13:09 redrobot nosiree 20:13:34 pdesai1 ping 20:13:41 hey 20:14:05 hi pdesai1 ! I noticed our Doc liaison is outdated, and it reminded me that you're doing a ton of doc work 20:14:17 yup i am working on it 20:14:19 pdesai1 just wondering if you had an update on the api-guide work? 20:14:31 have two patches ready for review 20:14:40 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285519/1 20:14:51 working on Andreas comment 20:15:00 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284368/ 20:15:04 is ready for review 20:15:24 there are lot of reference and doc changes as the location of .rst files have changed 20:15:34 under userguide 20:15:34 pdesai1 awesome, thanks! 20:15:37 sure 20:16:41 pdesai1 I'll help review those as well 20:16:52 thanks diazjf 20:17:20 ok, moving on to the actual agenda 20:17:25 #topic Code Freeze, burr! 20:17:34 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-m-spec-crs 20:17:55 So diazjf was nice enough to put the etherpad together with links to outstanding blueprint work 20:18:03 we should try to get these landed no later than Wednesday 20:18:12 I want to be able to cut RC1 this Thursday 20:18:19 or M3 I guess 20:18:35 redrobot perfect. 20:18:46 #link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html 20:19:11 we should probably aim to release a Mitaka python-barbicanclient as well 20:19:33 I already have a CR in review for a python-barbicanclient release 20:19:38 but it still needs a bit more work 20:19:51 also there's been a couple of bugs reported that we may want to fix before then... 20:21:11 redrobot: I've been looking at some of the bugs. We should start the discussion for the v2 client as soon as possible because some are very hard to fix without revamping the client. 20:21:45 silos yeah... one of the reasons we slacked on releasing the client was that I didn't really want to commit to supporting the openstack-client bits right off the bat 20:21:59 but I think we can call those "beta" this release and then change them without too much trouble. 20:22:29 redrobot: OK. sounds good. 20:23:11 any questions about M3 or the Code Freeze? 20:23:13 redrobot, is the alternate auth stuff going to make it in castellan? 20:23:26 redrobot, is there going to be a castellan release? 20:24:05 alee redrobot, that's the next thing on the agenda! 20:24:24 kfarr, awesome 20:24:39 redrobot, so everything needs to be merged by Wednesday? hopefully :) 20:25:50 diazjf yes, hopefully by Wednesday EOB. I'll be focusing on reviews today and probably Wednesday as well. 20:25:59 alee kfarr yeah, I'll cover that next. 20:26:11 redrobot, awesome thanks 20:26:19 ok, moving on 20:26:24 #topic Castellan releases 20:26:37 So the first thing I should point out is that Castellan is not managed by the release team: 20:26:40 #link Castellan releases 20:26:43 #undo 20:26:44 Removing item from minutes: 20:26:52 #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/projects.yaml#n41 20:27:05 Yes, and I had cut a few Castellan releases in the past 20:27:14 Note that only the Barbican Service and python-barbicanclient are managed by the release team. 20:27:35 so in theory we should be able to release Castellan whenever we feel like we need a release. 20:28:29 redrobot, kfarr, alee, rellerreller, after the secret metadata stuff gets merged I'll be 100% in finishing the castellan auth stuff 20:28:38 The reason I put Castellan releases on the meeting minutes was because I wanted to cut a Castellan release now 20:28:52 and wanted to ask the community if anyone wanted me to wait 20:29:06 kfarr, would next week be possible 20:29:19 kfarr do you need it released for any dependent patches in other projects? 20:29:25 I just need tests for the castellan auth stuff to be done 20:29:36 That said... I'm not sure how the dependency management for Mitaka affects Castellan 20:29:39 kfarr or do you want to wait for the auth stuff? 20:30:02 How soon do we think the auth stuff will be finished? 20:30:24 kfarr, if no problems on the user metadata stuff, I'd say Friday 20:32:40 Ok, that's fine. I don't need it immediately, but it would be nice soon 20:32:53 alee, was there a reason you were interested in a new release? 20:32:57 kfarr do you need this new release to be used by other projects in the Mitaka release? 20:33:18 kfarr, no - just curious as to status 20:33:29 I do need it eventually, but right now I'm working around not having it 20:33:52 kfarr, I plan to use it for some cinder work later on 20:33:59 kfarr we may want to look into the version ceiling for Mitaka... I think the upper constraints are going to be set soon. 20:34:59 kfarr not a huge deal since we can always backport into a branch that meets the version requirements for the upper constraints, but it's definitely easier if the upper constraints include the new release. 20:35:30 redrobot ok yeah, I don't know how project-specific version ceilings get set 20:36:00 kfarr it's part of openstack/requirements ... but I'm not 100% sure on when they get locked down for the final cycle release. 20:36:44 kfarr, I'll see if I can get the tests ready for review by Wednesday 20:36:53 #action redrobot to look into upper constraints for Castellan across projects in the Mitaka release 20:37:01 kfarr I'll ping you when I find out what the deal is 20:37:11 redrobot ok cool! 20:37:42 anything else on Castellan releases? 20:37:54 That's it for me! 20:38:02 ok, moving on 20:38:06 #topic Open Discussion 20:38:13 Any other topics/questions we should talk about? 20:38:18 Any news on design session? 20:38:26 rellerreller oh yes! Thanks 20:38:40 The organizers pinged me last week to ask about space requirements. 20:39:44 let's start an etherpad to capture design session topics for the Summit 20:39:49 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-barbican-design-sessions 20:40:20 If we can get topics in there in the next day or two that'll give me a good idea of what our space requirements look like. 20:41:54 Also, to avoid the time-suck of the CMS split discussions that happend in Tokyo 20:42:15 let's try to only add topics that we know we are willing to work on for the cycle. 20:42:38 also avoid content-type talks 20:42:45 unless it's v2 content-types ;) 20:43:24 no CMS, no content-types, this is gonna be a weird summit ;-) 20:43:33 lolol 20:43:37 we can talk CMS 20:43:43 but only if someone is ready to do the work 20:44:17 How do the cross-project topics work? 20:44:48 Do we still propose under Barbican and indicate that it is a cross-project, or is there a cross-project submission forum or something? 20:44:52 rellerreller there's usually an email that goes out with a link to an openstack-hosted service where topics get proposed 20:45:37 rellerreller those submissions get reviewed by the tc, and then the top X talks get chosen for the cross-project track 20:45:44 which usually happens a day before the regular design sessions 20:45:54 reminder BYOK -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271517/ 20:46:23 diazjf That's exactly what I was thinking. BYOK seems to be quite popular. 20:47:22 rellerreller, yeah I think os-security will be involved in that as well 20:47:50 There's a party at the summit, and it's BYOK 20:48:16 I'm expecting a lot of interested parties there. Plus add in the fact that every service will need to have API changes to support it, and it sounds like a long, tedious process. 20:48:43 I love BYOK parties! 20:49:29 any other topics we should talk about? 20:49:38 if not we could all get 10 min of our day back 20:49:50 Is anyone familiar with Keystone policy resources? 20:50:25 what do you mean exactly? 20:50:35 I saw that in the API and was wondering if any other projects are using it. 20:50:45 ah, gotcha. not sure 20:50:50 What kinds of policy are being stored there? 20:51:01 that API is for creating new policies 20:51:05 nothing is stored by default 20:51:32 It gets stored and then you can retrieve it according to the API. 20:51:38 the idea is to convert the policy.json file and store policies from there into db 20:52:25 yup as a deployer you can create whatever policy is appropriate for your deployment and retrieve it back 20:52:40 Awesome opossum! 20:52:51 db takes higher precedence over policy.json which is configurable 20:53:32 Thanks pdesai1 ! 20:53:45 sure rellerreller 20:53:59 pdesai1++ 20:54:03 :) 20:54:29 That's all I had. 20:54:46 woot! finished with 5 min to spare 20:54:50 this patch is ready for review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282059/ if anyone has spare cycles to take a look at it 20:54:50 thanks for coming everyone! 20:54:50 hehe 20:55:09 in the nick of time mp1 20:55:11 #endmeeting