20:00:08 #startmeeting barbican 20:00:09 Meeting started Mon Mar 7 20:00:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:10 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:00:12 The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' 20:00:19 #topic Roll Call 20:00:24 o/ 20:00:27 o/ 20:00:29 o/ 20:00:30 o/ 20:00:33 o/ 20:00:34 o/ 20:00:36 o/ 20:00:36 \o/ 20:00:40 o/ 20:00:48 o/ 20:01:34 alright, lots of barbicaneers here today 20:01:41 o/ 20:01:42 #topic Action Items from last meeting 20:01:44 o/ 20:02:32 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2016/barbican.2016-02-29-20.01.html 20:02:50 redrobot to look into upper constraints for Castellan across projects in the Mitaka release 20:02:53 which I did 20:03:46 * redrobot is digging for link 20:03:53 o/ 20:04:19 #link https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt#L83 20:04:31 ^^ is where the upper constraints for castellan are defined 20:05:42 ok, moving on 20:05:58 #topic Liaison Updates 20:06:06 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons 20:06:27 Unfortunately I missed the oslo meeting this morning. :( 20:06:43 I'll read the logs later and find out if anything interesting happened. 20:06:52 any updates from other liaisons? 20:06:55 hockeynut QE? 20:06:58 nosiree 20:07:09 o/ 20:07:12 ok, moving on then. 20:07:29 is that a question from panatl ? 20:07:29 #topic Mitaka-3 20:08:49 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088409.html 20:08:54 * redrobot is slow with the links today 20:09:01 Mitaka-3 was released 20:09:13 the linked ML message has the link to the tarball 20:09:36 we had to move the configurable-soft-delete blueprint to FFE since it didn't merge before the release was tagged. 20:09:45 I think that should be our only FFE for this cycle. 20:10:36 any questions/comments about Mitaka-3 milestone? 20:10:42 or code freeze? 20:11:37 * redrobot hears crickets 20:11:39 ok moving on 20:11:44 chirp chirp 20:12:00 #topic OpenStack Bug Squash 20:12:45 There's a global bug-smashing event happening soon 20:12:54 its today, isn't it? 20:12:55 soon=now 20:12:56 oh hey, it's actually today 20:13:04 #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/global-openstack-bug-smash-san-antonio-tickets-20926594006 20:13:36 I should've checked the dates on that way sooner than today. 20:13:48 I was going to invite our Austin friends to come down to the Castle for this 20:14:14 but it would have been better to plan this in advance. 20:14:22 everyone is still welcomed to come down I guess? 20:14:27 redrobot, edtubill and I are down :) 20:14:45 diazjf that would be awesome! 20:15:06 it's a distributed thing too, so anyone can participate remotely as well 20:15:28 and since we're in code freeze now, it's the perfect time to squash some bugs! 20:16:57 redrobot do you have any advice for cores for reviewing and merging code? 20:16:58 ok, moving on 20:17:10 should only bug fixes be merged at this point? 20:17:23 kfarr yes, only bugfixes for the next few weeks. 20:17:26 0/ 20:17:46 got it 20:18:12 kfarr probably worth discussing in its own topic 20:18:19 #topic Mitaka RC1 20:18:21 #link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html 20:18:42 the target release date for Mitaka RC1 is the week of March 14-18 20:18:52 so from now until then we should only merge bugfxies 20:18:56 *bugfixes 20:19:05 plus the FFE, yes? 20:19:15 randallburt yes, but I think the FFE is complete now 20:19:16 assuming its approved or whatever the process is 20:19:21 ah, cool 20:19:35 randallburt BP was already complete... there was a patch in review that didn't merge before M-2 20:19:41 cool 20:19:42 *M-3 20:20:30 once RC1 is tagged sometime next week, then master will become Newton and we can start merging new BPs 20:20:52 which is a nice segway into 20:20:57 #topic Newton Blueprints 20:21:51 In the spirit of having more time to review BPs, and merging them early so we can start working on implementations with plenty of time before the first N milestone, we should start proposing BPs for N now 20:22:14 I've got the ball rolling on the first one: 20:22:16 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286318/ 20:22:33 it's a BP that was approved for L but did not get implemented 20:22:57 per our policy I'm submitting it for re-review for the new cycle, to make sure it still makes sense 20:24:34 Any questions about Mitaka RC1 or Newton Blueprints? 20:25:13 redrobot are you going to -2 all of the other bps? 20:25:31 Should the authors of those bps abandon them? 20:25:36 rellerreller yeah, we should probably do that 20:25:46 rellerreller not abandon, just edit to target newton instead of mitaka 20:26:20 It's just that there are so many old specs now. 20:26:48 About 14/20 are from 2015. 20:26:59 we could say that if they aren't adopted for N and are older than X they'll be administratively abandoned. 20:27:01 rellerreller hmm... I suppose we can abandon the really old ones. 20:27:10 give a deadline of N1 or something 20:27:13 randallburt +1 20:27:45 #action redrobot to -2 pending CRs with a note to resubmit for N and a deadline to mark them as abandoned. 20:29:13 ok, moving on 20:29:22 redrobot: Please do not abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263972/ (Multiple backend) ..I will move to Newton. 20:29:37 arunkant no problem. 20:29:49 arunkant we probably won't mark any as abandoned until n-1 20:30:37 #topic Space Requirements for Austin Design Summit 20:30:41 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-barbican-design-sessions 20:31:06 As I mentioned last week, we have an etherpad to record design session items in Austin 20:31:50 it's pretty small so far 20:32:13 and I'm using it to gauge how much space we'll need 20:32:17 including fish-bowls if any 20:32:40 How will some of these work if other projects have the same proposal? 20:32:42 diazjf do you know if the security folks are going to do a fishbowl for the BYOK stuff? Or should we plan to have a fish-bowl about it? 20:32:55 For instance byok is proposed here and likely by security project. 20:33:18 rellerreller hopefully we can plan to avoid doubling up on sessions 20:33:25 redrobot, I'm not sure, I can email Robert later today 20:33:44 rellerreller we ask the OpenStack overlords for space... but we may not get all the space we ask for 20:33:44 redrobot or maybe double our time to have a lot of discussion :) 20:34:08 rellerreller yeah, I think for sure we'll want to have the contributors meetup 1/2 day 20:34:19 rellerreller and maybe 10ish design sessions 20:34:24 I wasn't sure about fishbowls though 20:34:43 rellerreller kfarr do we want to fish-bowl any castellan features? 20:35:00 for upcoming features? 20:35:18 I feel like most of the upcoming work will be with integration into other projects 20:35:23 I'm not sure if any are cross-project. 20:35:41 The key manager/project configuration is kind of cross-project. 20:36:09 Maybe we should do a fish-bowl on the new auth features with some code samples on how to use them? 20:36:21 Basically what the code will look like in each of the services, but I'm not sure how much discussion outside of our community would be needed. 20:36:46 redrobot that's cool with me. 20:37:00 redrobot, rellerreller, +1 20:37:04 redrobot I say combine that with per project key manager. They are related. 20:37:33 rellerreller think a single fish-bowl for both will be enough? 20:37:43 or should we ask fro 2 ? 20:37:58 redrobot Right now I think 1 should be enough. 20:38:12 rellerreller ok, sounds good 20:38:16 redrobot I can provide more details on etherpad for a possible agenda. 20:38:19 kfarr, rellerreller, redrobot, I will help you out wuth the auth_stuff 20:38:30 diazjf awesome! 20:38:31 Then we can discuss more to see if one or two sessions. 20:38:39 diazjf +1 20:38:55 I'll start preparing slide sometime this week 20:40:19 rellerreller: about keymanager/project configuration ..is this something proposed on castellan side or barbican server side ? 20:40:34 castellan 20:41:05 okay..was looking if this in lines of multiple backend..thanks 20:41:09 arunkant same problem space as yours, but I want to move it up a level. 20:41:55 We have similar problem, and I believe if we solve it at castellan level then both of us are happy. 20:42:20 rellerreller: is there any doc for this proposal available? 20:42:35 arunkant not yet 20:42:46 arunkant I'm working on documentation. 20:43:06 arunkant it will take a little bit of time to get through prepub. 20:44:36 ok, I think I can get a space request out now 20:44:40 thanks rellerreller 20:44:52 that's all I had on the agenda today 20:44:56 #topic Open Discussion 20:45:07 Anything else we should talk about? CRs to review? 20:45:20 redrobot are there abstracts or design session desriptions needed? 20:45:46 redrobot or will you tell OpenStack this is our space request and here are the session titles? 20:46:00 I'll ask for 1-2 fishbowls. We'll need abstracts for those since they go to the main schedule 20:46:02 redrobot I'm wondering what I need to get through prepub. 20:46:13 If anyone has free cycles they can checkout https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262684/ 20:46:19 the workroom sessions don't need descriptions 20:46:22 ^ Just Barbican validation 20:46:26 neither does the 1/2 meetup 20:46:34 redrobot I'll work on some session descriptions. 20:46:42 awesome, thanks rellerreller 20:46:56 #action rellerreller to work on fish bowl descriptions 20:48:34 diazjf will look at it in a bit 20:48:57 redrobot gracias 20:49:09 anything else? If not we can get 10 minutes of our day back... 20:49:21 redrobot, I'll let you know by the end of the day if we can go to the bug squashing event 20:50:06 diazjf cool... I have a few meetings tomorrow, but I could probably sneak out for a while. Definitely going to try to be there most of Wednesday. 20:50:29 redrobot, awesome 20:50:43 ok, then, thanks for coming everyone! 20:50:48 #endmeeting