20:00:26 #startmeeting barbican 20:00:27 Meeting started Mon Jun 27 20:00:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:28 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:00:31 The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' 20:00:37 #topic Roll Call 20:00:46 o/ 20:00:47 o/ 20:00:49 o/ 20:01:29 o/ 20:01:54 Not a whole lot of barbicaneers here today... 20:01:58 o/ 20:02:04 no matter we'll have an awesome meeting anyway! 20:02:32 As usual the agenda can be found here: 20:02:44 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican#Agenda 20:02:52 and as usual... there's nothing there. :-P 20:03:00 we can make it up as we go... 20:03:10 #topic Mid-Cycle 20:03:15 diazjf do you have news for us? 20:03:25 redrobot, yessir 20:03:51 So I was able to secure a room for August 15 - 19 20:04:03 Only 17 people registered so far 20:04:06 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-security-midcycle-N 20:04:19 diazjf sweet! 20:04:28 diazjf do you want to announce it on the mailing list? 20:04:48 No funding available for food :(. Still waiting on Rob for that 20:05:16 diazjf ok, I'll ask and see if maybe Rackspace can pick up breakfast/lunch on a day or two 20:05:30 I'll ping you later this week, to make sure its all good before I announce it :) 20:05:38 diazjf sounds good 20:05:41 I'll fund some donuts :) 20:06:02 #info Mid-cycle may be happening on August 15-19 20:06:11 #action diazjf to announce mid-cycle on ML later this week 20:06:14 and I'll attend the security meeting to let them know as well 20:06:23 any other topics we need to talk about? 20:06:32 or reviews needing reviewing? 20:06:47 How certain are those dates and times for the mid-cycle? 20:06:48 We can talk about presentations 20:07:03 For example, would it be pretty safe to buy a plane ticket at this point? 20:07:18 Or would it be safer to wait? 20:07:31 kfarr, safer to wait until next week 20:07:47 diazjf, ok thanks 20:07:59 I'm in Miami now, but will be in Austin next week to final finalize. So far they said confirmed but I wanna make sure 100% 20:08:38 word 20:08:41 o/ 20:08:55 * redrobot waves at woodster_ did you come bearing topics? 20:09:11 * woodster_ alas no, sorry 20:09:56 redrobot: Can you review multiple backend https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263972/ . I have tried to address your review comments on it. Will like to have approval before start impl in 2 weeks. 20:10:10 arunkant will do 20:10:34 redrobot: thx 20:10:54 arunkant: I need to refresh myself on that one too 20:13:17 woodster_ ..okay ..will be good to have design aspect/comments ironed out before start impl on it. 20:13:23 I guess we're all on top of everything, and there's not much to discuss... ;) 20:15:10 we can hang out for a couple more minutes, I guess, and then we can get a lot of time back 20:16:45 redrobot: is rackspace using fernet token ? Any thoughts on using barbican as key manager for manging keys needed for fernet token ? 20:17:20 #topic Fernet Tokens 20:17:43 arunkant I'm not sure if we're using fernet tokens or not? I can ask the folks on the identity team though. 20:18:22 arunkant It's a weird chicken+egg problem for keystone to use barbican since we depend on them for access control 20:18:23 redrobot arunkant rackspace uses the same concept of a non-persistent token, but it's not the exact fernet implementation 20:18:28 there was discussion in morning with diazjf ..to find out if there are use-cases in leveraging barbican or castellan as key manager 20:19:03 arunkant, and a few others an I are experimenting with the possibility of fernet keys stored in barbican. 20:19:04 lbragstad thanks! 20:19:14 redrobot no problem! 20:19:41 diazjf arunkant fernet keys in general or fernet keys for keystone to use when issuing fernet tokens? 20:20:10 redrobot: for that..there was thought of using cert based authentication and barbican server can act as trusted client with known CN for keystone authentication 20:20:40 redrobot, so the barbican will be responsible for generation and storage of fernet keys 20:22:31 i proposed a spec to keystone's backlog after visiting with an operator at the summit - https://github.com/openstack/keystone-specs/blob/master/specs/keystone/backlog/fernet-key-store.rst 20:24:50 lbragstad : I think gyee mentioned about same spec and we are trying to see what are the use-cases for using keymanager backend . 20:25:17 arunkant cool 20:27:58 I'll read up on that spec lbragstad linked 20:28:18 I don't see why someone couldn't write a barbican spec for the barbican bits needed to generate fernet tokens 20:28:46 if a spec is what you seek, you shall get :-) 20:29:24 :) :) :) :) 20:30:24 anything else on this topic or any other topics? 20:31:28 none from my side 20:33:27 cool beans, let's call it a day then 20:33:34 thanks everyone for coming! 20:33:57 oh before I forget 20:34:09 #info no meeting next week since it's a US holiday. 20:34:46 #endmeeting