20:00:10 <dave-mccowan> #startmeeting barbican
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20:00:18 <dave-mccowan> #topic roll call
20:00:22 <dave-mccowan> \o/
20:00:45 <redrobot> o/
20:00:52 <arunkant> o/
20:00:57 <dave-mccowan> hi arunkant redrobot
20:01:47 <alee> o/
20:01:59 <diazjf> o/
20:02:47 <dave-mccowan> the faithful barbicaneers have gathered :-)
20:03:15 <dave-mccowan> #topic Patches for CLI Updates
20:03:37 <dave-mccowan> redrobot has done some great work on this.  what's the latest?
20:04:08 <redrobot> I was waiting on reviews
20:04:18 <redrobot> looks like Kaitlin left a review since last I checked
20:04:35 <woodster_> o/
20:05:06 <redrobot> I'll try to address Kaitlin's comments asap
20:05:09 <dave-mccowan> there are 3 patches?
20:05:19 <redrobot> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388267/
20:05:31 <redrobot> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388267/
20:05:44 <redrobot> ^^ adds the field name renames
20:05:54 <redrobot> and
20:05:57 <redrobot> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388981/
20:06:02 <redrobot> ^^ adds --file
20:06:39 <dave-mccowan> is https://review.openstack.org/382643 part of it as well (secret.id property)
20:07:32 <redrobot> dave-mccowan it's unrelated... I have to go back and fix that older patch, but it's lower priority than the CLI patches
20:07:59 <redrobot> I think we may want to add ID to the Service API first instead of just adding .id to the python lib
20:08:19 <dave-mccowan> redrobot cool.  thanks.  i'll review those first two today as well.
20:08:56 <dave-mccowan> is there any other CLI improvement work that should be done this cycle?
20:10:37 <redrobot> I think containers are kind of a pain, but I haven't thought about how to fix them
20:13:04 <dave-mccowan> something to think about, maybe we can brainstorm on it in the channel sometime.
20:13:33 <dave-mccowan> #topic certificate order api deprecation
20:13:33 <dave-mccowan> we've made some progress on this.
20:13:42 <dave-mccowan> diazjf committed doc changes to alert a reader of docs.
20:14:22 <dave-mccowan> at the summit we discussed adding a config switch to turn off the API.  the owner is listed as: redrobot or "new contributor"
20:14:47 <dave-mccowan> any updates or volunteers for this one?
20:15:22 <redrobot> no updates from me, busy with other stuff atm
20:15:35 <redrobot> I could maybe help any new contributors who may want to start chipping away at this
20:16:17 <dave-mccowan> we had a few new contributors at the summit.  has anyone been in touch with them?
20:17:33 <dave-mccowan> #topic returning entity_id property
20:18:13 <dave-mccowan> at summit we discussed adding returning entity_id properties in our response bodies.  in the past we've returned full entity_refs. (full URIs)
20:18:26 <dave-mccowan> this was redrobot's item too
20:19:03 <redrobot> I think we need a spec first?
20:19:33 <dave-mccowan> redrobot  that makes sense.
20:19:53 <redrobot> I haven't started a spec on this
20:19:58 <dave-mccowan> do we need to bump our API version to do this?
20:20:08 <redrobot> no, it's just adding a new property
20:20:24 <redrobot> and we would not remove the secret_ref or xxx_ref properties
20:21:33 <dave-mccowan> cool.  so this should be a straightforward implementation
20:22:03 <dave-mccowan> #topic congrats to arunkant
20:22:24 <diazjf> congrats!!! arunkant :)
20:22:35 <dave-mccowan> congrats to arun and welcome to barbican-core.  his vote last week was unanimous
20:22:44 <redrobot> \o/
20:23:33 <dave-mccowan> #topic any other business
20:23:50 <dave-mccowan> our review backlog is shrinking.  thanks everyone; we've been making steady progress on it.
20:23:53 <woodster_> +1 congrats
20:24:36 <dave-mccowan> next i'd like to shrink our bugs backlog.  we have over 70 open bugs.  i'm sure many are invalid/dups/user error, etc.
20:24:57 <woodster_> word of caution about adding fields to responses....Dev core has been restrictive/prescriptive on doing this without a version bump. Not a barbican concern until they are part of def core I suppose :)
20:25:33 <dave-mccowan> if we each grab one or two launchad bug a week to triage, we'll be able to shrink that to a more manageable level
20:26:53 <dave-mccowan> do we want to bump the version this release for any other reason?
20:28:39 <dave-mccowan> last chance for any other topics today...
20:28:41 <woodster_> I'd say if we aren't part of def core yet, probably not an issue
20:29:00 * woodster_ lost track of if barbican is included in def core or not
20:29:33 <dave-mccowan> woodster_ we're not.
20:29:44 <woodster_> cool, make it easier then :)
20:30:27 <dave-mccowan> deprecating certificate orders will involve a version bump.
20:30:43 <dave-mccowan> i think?
20:31:39 <redrobot> what version are we talking about?
20:31:54 <alee> dave-mccowan, redrobot api version?
20:31:55 <redrobot> the version in the api routes or the release version?
20:33:33 <dave-mccowan> i could use a refresher on each of them, i guess.  which ones do we need to worry about?
20:35:16 <redrobot> api routes are the /v1/blah versions
20:35:27 <redrobot> release version is the version that the rel team gives us
20:35:45 <redrobot> seems to go up every release
20:35:46 <redrobot> currently it's 3.0.0.0
20:36:26 <redrobot> There's also the API version which we use in the root response
20:38:28 <dave-mccowan> is the v1 in /v1/orders always the same /v1/secrets, or would they be different?
20:40:43 <dave-mccowan> i guess something to work out in the spec...
20:40:54 <redrobot> v1 shouldn't change until we make a v2
20:41:11 <redrobot> but the home response may say something like "version": "1.3" or whatever
20:43:33 <dave-mccowan> thanks for coming everyone. :-)
20:43:33 <dave-mccowan> #endmeeting