20:00:12 <dave-mccowan> #startmeeting barbican
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20:00:17 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'barbican'
20:00:31 <dave-mccowan> #topic roll call
20:02:21 <redrobot> o/
20:02:35 * dave-mccowan waves to redrobot
20:02:42 <jaosorior> o/
20:02:45 <alee> o/
20:03:11 <dave-mccowan> \o/
20:03:19 <redrobot> woo!
20:03:24 <redrobot> it's a party!
20:03:39 <kfarr> o/
20:03:55 <dave-mccowan> as usual, our agenda is here:
20:03:57 <dave-mccowan> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican
20:04:30 <dave-mccowan> #topic Summit
20:04:31 <dave-mccowan> today is the last day to submit a proposal for the Boston summit.
20:04:54 <dave-mccowan> has anyone submitted a barbican talk?  (or want to throw one together quickly today?)
20:05:21 <redrobot> I'm thinking a Vault vs Barbican talk
20:05:30 <redrobot> will try to throw something together
20:05:50 <redrobot> I'm thinking a security model comparison
20:05:59 <redrobot> maybe a feature comparison as well
20:06:08 <redrobot> obviously very biased towards Barbican :D
20:06:14 <alee> dave-mccowan, thanks for the reminder -- I had completely forgotten ..
20:06:49 <dave-mccowan> redrobot i like it!  what use case for each one would be good too.
20:06:56 <redrobot> yup
20:07:09 <redrobot> maybe even throw in possible integration
20:07:20 <redrobot> like Vault as a backend for Barbican
20:07:31 <redrobot> or Keystone as an auth backend for Vault
20:08:30 <dave-mccowan> do we want to submit the hands-on barbican session again?
20:09:55 <dave-mccowan> let me know if anyone wants help putting something together.
20:09:57 <dave-mccowan> moving on...
20:09:58 <redrobot> I thought Fernando was going to do that?
20:10:13 <redrobot> I'd love some help on the Vault v Barbican talk if anyone is interested
20:10:40 <dave-mccowan> redrobot count me in
20:11:01 <dave-mccowan> #topic PTG
20:11:02 <redrobot> dave-mccowan \o/
20:11:11 <redrobot> I'm officially not going :(
20:11:23 <dave-mccowan> two weeks until the PTG.  we've got a pretty good agenda, but we're light on attendees.
20:11:23 <redrobot> but I'd love to be a floating head on the projector
20:11:34 <dave-mccowan> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ptg-barbican-pike
20:11:51 <redrobot> maybe we can schedule a couple of 1hr hangouts each day?
20:11:56 <dave-mccowan> I'll definitely set up something for anyone who want to attend remotely.
20:12:04 <alee> dave-mccowan, I think we're going to feel like an episode of futurama ..
20:12:30 <redrobot> alee lol
20:12:30 <dave-mccowan> the PTG is intended to kick off the Pike cyle
20:13:17 <mrhillsman> you all do not have an open item on the agenda
20:13:25 <mrhillsman> so will drop in something here if ok
20:13:37 <dave-mccowan> alee, kfarr i know you are coming, but also have other project sessions you want to go to.  we should try to firm up an agenda with days and times to help with coordination.
20:13:37 <mrhillsman> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-adopt-a-project-pike
20:13:48 <mrhillsman> it is 'relevant' i think to ptg
20:14:26 <mrhillsman> within osic the ops team would like to assist with offering feedback to barbican, details in the etherpad
20:14:42 <dave-mccowan> #topic Ops Proposition
20:14:47 <dave-mccowan> hi mrhillsman
20:14:51 <mrhillsman> if possible at ptg it can be brought up and how it could be beneficial that would be great
20:14:56 <mrhillsman> or not beneficial :)
20:15:23 <mrhillsman> and how we can collaborate to be successful over pike with some expected outcomes
20:15:34 <mrhillsman> we just put what we thought made sense there and looking for feedback
20:15:40 <mrhillsman> hey dave-mccowan
20:16:03 <dave-mccowan> mrhillsman that sounds great.  we, as a community, have been wanting to boost our adoption.  we're open to any contributions in that regards.
20:16:48 <dave-mccowan> is the PTG the best place to start the conversation?
20:16:55 <dave-mccowan> that's fine with me.
20:16:59 <mrhillsman> we will not be at the ptg i believe
20:17:04 <redrobot> "we plan to add to OSIC for Pike" YES!!! :D
20:17:09 <redrobot> ^^ this makes me happy
20:17:29 <mrhillsman> we just thought maybe you all could discuss and we could work to define some goals together through this effort
20:17:38 <mrhillsman> amongst the other items you all come up with
20:17:52 <redrobot> mrhillsman are you at OSIC in San Antonion?
20:17:58 <redrobot> *Antonio
20:18:08 <mrhillsman> if you do however setup remote access, someone will sit in for sure
20:18:15 <mrhillsman> i am not redrobot, in Houston
20:18:19 <mrhillsman> but our team is there
20:18:26 <redrobot> redrobot ah, ok
20:18:36 <mrhillsman> i can schedule a time after the ptg to be in sa though and we can get together
20:18:43 <mrhillsman> barbican and osic ops folks
20:18:51 <redrobot> mrhillsman sounds good
20:18:59 <mrhillsman> cool, i'll email you
20:19:14 <mrhillsman> that is all i wanted to offer
20:19:17 <redrobot> mrhillsman I'm is Douglas Mendizábal at Rackspace btw
20:19:20 <mrhillsman> thanks for your time
20:19:33 <mrhillsman> yep, i got you :)
20:19:50 <redrobot> 😎
20:19:57 <mrhillsman> we've talked/met
20:20:30 <dave-mccowan> mrhillsman thanks!  i'll add this as a standing agenda item for our weekly calls, so we can track this going into Pike.
20:20:32 <dave-mccowan> #topic Ocata Status
20:20:50 <mrhillsman> thx dave-mccowan
20:21:01 <dave-mccowan> Last Friday, we released RC1 and pulled stable/ocata for Barbican
20:21:28 <dave-mccowan> also kfarr pull stable/ocata for Castellan (the first stable branch for Castellan)
20:21:43 <kfarr> Yup!
20:21:51 <dave-mccowan> barbican master is for Pike developmet
20:22:22 <redrobot> woot!
20:22:29 <redrobot> can I resubmit the ID change?
20:22:30 <dave-mccowan> if we don't find any showstoppers this week, RC1 will become our Ocata release.
20:23:01 <dave-mccowan> redrobot yes, let's do that soon.  we need the co-requisite changes to client.
20:23:24 <redrobot> dave-mccowan ack, I can work on the client bits and then submit both at the same time
20:23:52 <dave-mccowan> great!  thanks!
20:24:30 <dave-mccowan> any other questions on Ocata?
20:24:54 <dave-mccowan> #topic tempest testing
20:25:44 <dave-mccowan> there is one outstanding review now in barbican-tempest-plugin
20:26:02 <kfarr> Dane and Peter are planning on working on scenario tests this week
20:26:18 <kfarr> to test the integration with Glance / Nova / etc
20:26:41 <dave-mccowan> \o/  kfarr let them know we appreciate it. :-)
20:27:02 <kfarr> Yeah, thanks for the code reviews!
20:27:36 <dave-mccowan> #topic payload_content_type bug
20:27:59 <dave-mccowan> this morning, someone in the channel asked about https://bugs.launchpad.net/barbican/+bug/1479439
20:27:59 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1479439 in Barbican "cannot retrieve certificate payload with snakeoil plugin" [Undecided,Confirmed]
20:28:08 <dave-mccowan> which is a really old bug, that is apparently still there
20:29:02 <dave-mccowan> he's using the python client, and it is sending the content type as None which failing
20:30:12 <dave-mccowan> comments in the code from 2015 say we've deprecated support for a user specifying payload_content_type, but it seems we need to for the code work.
20:31:32 <dave-mccowan> if you have any thoughts on this, please attach them to the bug.
20:31:44 <dave-mccowan> #topic any other business
20:32:46 <dave-mccowan> ok... we're done a little early.
20:33:08 <dave-mccowan> everyone can use the time to submit summit talk proposals. :-)
20:33:29 <redrobot> o/
20:33:36 <redrobot> oh I have a spec I'm working on
20:33:48 <redrobot> for Pike
20:34:20 <redrobot> basically I want to steal some ideas from Vault and add  Shamir's Secret Sharing support to SimpleCrypto
20:35:38 <dave-mccowan> redrobot cool.  i think the community is hoping for something like this...
20:35:39 <redrobot> so instead of storing an encryption key in the conf file, we would be able to split the key into K pieces and only require N of them to start up Barbican
20:35:55 <redrobot> anyway, I'll try to get an initial spec this week
20:36:17 <redrobot> thinking maybe API calls to provide the key pieces...
20:37:32 <dave-mccowan> cool.  6 months to go until Pike release. :-)
20:38:30 <dave-mccowan> last call for any other business
20:38:44 <diazjf> o/ sorry was in a meeting
20:38:54 <redrobot> diazjf did you submit the workshop?
20:39:10 <diazjf> redrobot, nope. When is the deadline?
20:39:16 <redrobot> diazjf today
20:39:45 <dave-mccowan> midnight tonight (i think PST)
20:39:59 <diazjf> redrobot, I'll put it up within the next hour
20:40:09 <redrobot> diazjf awesome!
20:40:23 <diazjf> kfarr, dave-mccowan, alee, I will add all of you as well :)
20:40:39 <dave-mccowan> diazjf thanks!
20:41:17 <dave-mccowan> diazjf we're just wrapping up.  did you want to bring anything up?
20:41:30 <redrobot> dave-mccowan so are you officially PTL for Pike now?
20:42:07 <dave-mccowan> yes.  i couldn't pass off the hot potato. :-)
20:42:30 <redrobot> lol, congrats dave-mccowan !
20:42:37 <jaosorior> congrats dude! and thanks
20:42:50 <redrobot> yeah, thanks for hanging on to the patata :D
20:44:11 <dave-mccowan> no worries.  happy to help.  everyone start thinking about next cycle, if you're interested.
20:44:18 <diazjf> congrats!!
20:45:14 <dave-mccowan> catch everyone later...
20:45:19 <dave-mccowan> #endmeeting