03:00:13 #startmeeting barbican 03:00:14 Meeting started Tue Mar 13 03:00:13 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alee. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 03:00:15 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 03:00:17 The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' 03:00:26 #topic roll call 03:00:39 hi alee 03:00:47 hello :) 03:01:00 o/ 03:01:08 finally, I get chance to attend our weekly meeting 03:01:09 hi dave-mccowan 03:01:17 hi dave-mccowan 03:01:30 hello all 03:01:35 namnh ping 03:01:51 dave-mccowan: pong 03:02:14 namnh, its the barbican weekly meeting now in case you'd like to join 03:02:40 alee: yes, i'm going to join it 03:03:02 namnh, good to see you here 03:04:33 welcome everyone - good to see a good attendance for our new time 03:04:55 we'll keep it at this time from now onwards 03:05:05 #topic rocky 03:05:37 I have collected some thoughts on what could be our focuses in rocky 03:05:45 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-tracker-rocky 03:06:10 as well as various important dates. 03:06:38 Rajat Sharma proposed openstack/barbican master: [WIP]Retrieving DER DSA keys https://review.openstack.org/551967 03:06:39 If there is anything else you'd like to add, or comment on, please go ahead 03:07:01 rajat__, hello :) 03:07:28 please add any bugs that concern youin particular to the list at the bottom as well. 03:08:14 I have not had a chance to go trough the bugs yet - but knowing which ones folks are working on/ or are affected by will help. 03:09:15 any questions /concerns/ comments? 03:09:54 ok 03:10:06 yes, got it 03:10:47 cool 03:10:56 do we want to try to match work items to milestones? i like deadlines to help prioritize work. it'll also help to know which items need high priority reviews, etc. 03:11:51 dave-mccowan, that dos sound like a good idea -- it would also be nice to match works items with folks too. 03:12:36 all, are there work items that folks would like to sign up for? or others they'd like to propose 03:12:38 ? 03:13:02 that way we can see who will work on various things through 03:13:38 i would also be nice to get any new specs written by milestone one too 03:14:46 dave-mccowan, certainly though I think though we can try to get all the queens carry-ovwer work done by milestone 1 03:14:56 dave-mccowan, namnh is that possible? 03:16:22 alee i'll commit to the three client item for m-1. 03:16:30 namnh, I know you've been waiting on reviews -- are there further patches needed afterwards for rolling upgrades? 03:17:32 alee: well, i try my best to update OVO but there are so many unit-test need to be updated. 03:18:05 namnh, is milestone 2 a more realistic target? 03:18:38 alee: i will trying my best 03:18:48 alee: i will try my best 03:18:49 I do plan to review your existing patch very soon - hopefully this week 03:19:05 namnh, all we can ask for :) 03:19:21 lets put milestone 2 for now and see how it goes .. 03:19:56 alee: yes 03:21:09 if anyone is interested in any other topics/ features on the list, please fill in and propose milestone 03:21:35 or any other features they would like to work on 03:22:24 any other comments/questions on this topic? 03:23:54 #topic intros 03:24:19 I should have lead with this - but given that this is the first time we're having this meting at this time, 03:24:39 we are probably chatting for the first time with a few folks. 03:25:19 I'm particlatrly interested in what your interest in barbican is, whether you're using it and how, and what you'e interested in 03:25:34 I guess I'll start .. 03:26:25 I'm Ade Lee (PTL). I work for Red Hat . anwe;ll be releasing Barbican as part of OSP 13 very soon 03:26:54 so I have been working on integration of Barbican with tripleo 03:27:21 and will be working on doing things like performace testing esecially against the pkcs11 and dogtag plugins 03:27:36 and getting more inegration scenarios in place. 03:28:05 one of the things that might happen in the triple-o space is that we may put barbica in the undercloud to hndle secrets there 03:28:32 I'm also keeping tabs in the ongoing castellan /oslo integration work. 03:28:48 ok -- next up? 03:29:02 dave-mccowan, ? 03:31:03 namnh, liujiong , rajat_ ? 03:31:33 so i'll be the next one 03:32:32 I'm Jeremy Liu, work for GohighSec in China, a company aims to enhance security in cloud computing 03:33:53 liujiong, hey Jeremy - do you guys have deployments with barbican? 03:33:54 Recently, we've been integrating SGX with barbican to provide secure communication channel/secret transportation. 03:34:03 oh nice! 03:34:43 i'm Dave. My focus is cloud security at my company. I started contributing to Barbican a few years ago and have been PTL and a core reviewer. I see Barbican as instrumental in OpenStack to enable data encryption. My company's offerings do not currently include Barbican, but I hope we can include it soon. (Support in OSP 13 will help.) 03:35:31 liujiong Is there much extra code to use SGX? can that code be committed back to OpenStack? 03:36:05 That work is mostly a PoC, there's much to improve 03:36:18 I am Nam, from Fujitsu VN which is IT company. For now, I am focusing on rolling upgrade for Barbican and i hope that i can implement this interesting feature. 03:36:35 for Barbican 03:37:05 namnh, does your company use barbican? 03:37:37 Yes, we do 03:37:57 do you guys use it with an hsm or other backend? 03:38:09 or just with simple crypto 03:38:11 ? 03:39:17 i am not sure about this information. maybe HSM 03:39:59 namnh, just curious :) 03:40:06 For now, Fujitsu Japan is using Barbican, that company is parent of Fujitsu VN 03:40:51 I'd like to try to find out if anyone is actually using barbican in production with an HSM so we can actually make sure its well tested 03:41:40 namnh, are there other features you're interested in - once we wrap up rolling upgrades? 03:42:17 alee: ok, i will ask Fujitsu Japan about use-cases 03:42:40 :)) all of my effort are focusing on rolling-upgrade 03:42:46 namnh, cool - that would be great to know. 03:43:02 alee: ^^ 03:43:14 anyone else for intros? 03:43:26 rajat_, ? 03:43:59 sorry, but "intros?", what do that mean? 03:44:14 introduction? 03:44:28 yup introductions 03:44:44 :) thanks 03:45:19 np:) 03:45:48 #topic sgx 03:46:08 liujiong, I'm pretty interested in the sgx stuff. 03:46:22 neat to know that you're working on it 03:47:08 I've seen the code, but yeah - its all poc -- and needs work to actually get it into the upsteam barbican 03:47:41 yeah, much to improve to meet upstream requirements 03:48:01 and deployment requirements 03:49:24 liujiong, would you guys be interested in taking some of that on? 03:49:46 I know its a lot, and the intel guys seem to want to throw it over the wall as it were. 03:50:21 yes, I do, but not sure for R cycle 03:50:57 yeah I think it would be too much for that. 03:51:25 would be really useful though - especially if you add the attestation bits as well 03:51:54 yup, we tested RA feature 03:51:59 works fine 03:52:32 good to know .. 03:52:33 SGX could be a good Forum talk at summit 03:53:16 I know they have proposed a talk at the summit -- if that gets accepted, we can certainly open a forum talk for them there too. 03:54:00 I'll continue to let them know that folks are interested and trying their stuff out .. 03:54:12 cool 03:54:30 #topic anything else? 03:54:58 any other topics? 03:55:03 yes 03:55:22 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/547120/ 03:55:54 For there are a error during upgrade Barbican database with maridbdb 10.2.12 03:55:58 that's all from me, and it's lunch time, thank you all for this meeting 03:56:17 liujiong, thats Jeremy! 03:56:21 thanks 03:56:29 I already checkit, it will be fixed at mariadb 10.2.13 03:56:57 namnh, oh - thats really good to know --I've been trying to reproduce this 03:57:26 namnh, whats the issue in mariadb 10.2.12? 03:58:02 here is the bug which was fixed at 10.2.13 03:58:04 https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-13508 03:59:43 namnh, nice detctive work -- I see a koji build https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1054329 04:00:19 for 10.2.13-2 -- so maybe that update is not pushed yet? 04:01:41 yes, i check in devstack.log in gate barbican-dogtag-devstack-functional-fedora-27 04:02:04 it is using mariadb 10.2.12 04:02:16 http://logs.openstack.org/20/547120/2/check/barbican-dogtag-devstack-functional-fedora-27/8f93ca1/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz 04:03:45 namnh, ok - thanks for tracking down the issue -- I can follow up with the maintainer for mariadb to find out the status of the update - and maybe get it pushed out sooner rather than later 04:04:36 cheecking bodhi 04:06:18 namnh, https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-00647ae0d5 04:07:02 namnh, so shoudl go to stable in looks like 3 days 04:08:11 alee: yes, i just need to wait for now, right? 04:08:20 which should hopefully resolve this issue 04:08:31 namnh, I think so :) 04:08:55 namnh, I can check wth the maintainer if we need to hurry it up - do we? 04:10:14 alee: i think no need :0 04:10:31 cool - nice figuring it out :) 04:10:45 any other business? 04:10:54 that's all to me 04:11:00 :) 04:11:10 thank for coming, all ! see ya next week ! 04:11:17 #endmeeting