12:00:48 <xek> #startmeeting barbican
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12:00:58 <xek> #topic Roll Call
12:01:02 <dmendiza[m]> 🙋‍♂️
12:01:10 <mharley> o/
12:01:27 <xek> Courtesy ping for dmendiza[m] ade_lee d34dh0r53 Luzi tosky tobias-urdin jjung mharley
12:01:34 <Luzi> o/
12:02:32 <xek> Hello everyone :)
12:02:33 <xek> As usual our agenda can be found here:
12:02:43 <xek> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-weekly-meeting
12:03:27 <xek> #topic Review Past Meeting Action Items
12:03:57 <xek> There was one: dmendiza to update python-barbicanclient launchpad to update Storyboard redirect
12:04:11 <dmendiza[m]> Oops, I forgot to do that
12:04:16 <dmendiza[m]> let me see if I can do that real quick
12:05:11 <dmendiza[m]> OK, note has been removed
12:05:51 <xek> cool, thanks!
12:05:55 <xek> lets continue...
12:06:05 <xek> #topic Liaison Updates
12:07:13 <xek> no updates from me
12:08:07 <xek> I just got back from my PTO yesterday
12:08:13 <dmendiza[m]> Welcome back!
12:08:19 <dmendiza[m]> I don't have any updates either
12:08:29 <xek> #topic Open Discussion
12:08:50 <xek> I attended the Vancouver PTG
12:09:19 <mharley> @xek, where can we get the notes of what was discussed in the PTG?
12:09:34 <xek> It was pretty sparse and we didn't have a scheduled session
12:09:54 <dmendiza[m]> Any highlights we should be aware of?
12:10:01 <xek> But I had a short discussion with Michael Johnson about secret consumers
12:10:49 <xek> It looks like he is not satisfied with what we have, since by default, if someone is just using the API to delete secrets, he/she wouldn't be actually blocked from deleting a secret
12:10:59 <xek> It only works with the barbican client or castellan
12:11:39 <xek> Because of that, he is still expecting to have customers who accidentally delete their secrets
12:11:53 <mharley> I don't get you.  What specific feature is Michael Johnson unsatisfied feature?  Is it the "force parameter¨?
12:12:16 <dmendiza[m]> mharley: it's that the API doesn't have the force parameter
12:12:21 <xek> @mharley (@mharley:matrix.org) the force parameter is only implemented on the client
12:12:43 <mharley> Gotcha now.
12:13:01 <xek> so I think we should reevaluate how it's currently implemented, or at least have that discussion
12:13:50 <xek> @mharley (@mharley:matrix.org) I have an internal doc with other takeaways from the summit, I'll share that with you
12:14:09 <xek> But apart from this, there wasn't much related with Barbican upstream work
12:14:12 <mharley> Thanks, @xek.
12:15:06 <mharley> We should have such discussion preferrably with him to have the full clarity on his thoughts.
12:15:17 <xek> Yep
12:15:38 <xek> and the last topic is:
12:15:38 <xek> #topic Bug Review
12:17:02 <xek> There are no new bugs today :)
12:17:03 <dmendiza[m]> 🎉
12:17:05 <xek> Ok, see y'all next week!
12:17:06 <xek> #endmeeting