09:00:27 <masahito> #startmeeting blazar
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09:00:31 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'blazar'
09:00:43 <masahito> #topic RollCall
09:00:57 <priteau_> o/
09:00:59 <hiro-kobayashi> o/
09:01:00 <hrito> o/
09:01:42 <masahito> priteau_, hiro-kobayashi, hrito: hello
09:01:47 <masahito> Today's agenda is
09:01:54 <masahito> 1. Onboarding Room
09:01:59 <masahito> 2. Team Mascot
09:02:01 <masahito> 3. AOB
09:02:06 <masahito> anything else?
09:03:01 <GeraldK> hi
09:03:03 <masahito> okay, let's start first item
09:03:12 <tejaswi> hi
09:03:17 <masahito> #topic Onboarding Room
09:03:23 <masahito> GeraldK, tejaswi: hi
09:03:55 <masahito> As I mentioned the last meeting, Blazar team have the onboarding session in the Sydney Summit.
09:04:12 <masahito> I plan to talk about following topics in it.
09:04:39 <masahito> 1. Blazar introduction, 2. Blazar usecase, 3. Blazar Demo and 4. feature plan
09:05:13 <masahito> Does someone have other idea that we need to talk there?
09:06:19 <priteau_> Do you cover the internal architecture of Blazar in one of the topics?
09:07:00 <masahito> priteau_: I'm thinking #1 covers the architecture.
09:07:06 <priteau_> OK
09:07:15 <GeraldK> Will 4. feature plan include a description of the relationship with other projects?
09:08:33 <masahito> GeraldK: okay. We only have the relationship with PlacementAPI (Nova) team, right?
09:09:08 <masahito> If someone speaks to other project, please let me know. I'll add it :-)
09:09:37 <GeraldK> there may be some relationship with the to-be reaper service that is also of interest to other projects
09:09:39 <masahito> s/speaks to/speaks with/
09:10:12 <GeraldK> when we look at future plans we may also need to talk to Neutron and Cinder folks?
09:11:17 <masahito> GeraldK: yes. If we mention it, it's good to start to talk to other team.
09:12:02 <GeraldK> ok
09:12:13 <masahito> GeraldK: but I'm still not clear the requirements for Cinder(Storage/Volume) reservation.
09:14:25 <masahito> other comments for the session?
09:14:51 <hiro-kobayashi> Is the schedule fixed?
09:15:34 <masahito> hiro-kobayashi: not yet b/c other forum sessions are in selection phase.
09:15:54 <hiro-kobayashi> OK
09:17:29 <masahito> #topic Team Mascot
09:18:25 <masahito> Official OpenStack project can have its mascot.
09:18:30 <GeraldK> #link https://www.openstack.org/project-mascots
09:18:31 <masahito> https://www.openstack.org/project-mascots
09:18:37 <masahito> GeraldK: Thanks :-)
09:19:08 <masahito> Blazar is now official project so we can apply our log.
09:19:21 <GeraldK> +1 to do so
09:19:48 <hiro-kobayashi> +1
09:20:18 <masahito> We can gather the idea this week, then decides the order in the next meeting.
09:20:53 <GeraldK> my proposal was a "house mouse"
09:21:15 <priteau_> Blazar (astronomy) is an obvious choice, but I don't even know why we are named Blazar…
09:21:32 <masahito> If you have an idea, please listing here or later.
09:21:36 <GeraldK> mice are territorial animals and dominant males respect each other's territories.
09:21:39 <GeraldK> also, we are just a small project :)
09:21:53 <hiro-kobayashi> GeraldK: Sounds good :-)
09:22:09 <priteau_> If we go animal like most projects, I would propose a squirrel, because they
09:22:16 <priteau_> "reserve" nuts for the winter
09:22:41 <masahito> GeraldK: sound nice.
09:23:05 <masahito> priteau_: me neither. I'm not clear the reason of "Blazar"
09:23:19 <hiro-kobayashi> priteau: Nice idea!
09:23:32 <masahito> priteau_: Glance choose a squirrel, isn't it?
09:23:44 <hiro-kobayashi> masahito: Oh, yes
09:23:52 <GeraldK> I like squirrel as we are shelving resources. when it comes to re-using the resources prior to a reservation that does not fit anymore
09:24:00 <priteau_> masahito: it's a chipmunk
09:24:29 <priteau_> But I like the mouse too, as long as it's a cute mascot
09:24:32 <hiro-kobayashi> mashito: a bit different, haha
09:24:41 <hiro-kobayashi> s/masahito/priteau/
09:25:08 <priteau_> GeraldK: in the winter squirrels go dig back the nuts to eat them ;-)
09:25:17 <masahito> priteau_: oh, I didn't know there is difference. haha
09:26:00 <priteau_> I would imagine our mascot would show the entire squirell with a nut in its hands
09:26:36 <priteau_> so quite different from Glance which shows only the face
09:27:03 <hiro-kobayashi> priteau_: sounds good!
09:27:40 <priteau_> GeraldK: how did you envision your mouse would look?
09:27:41 <hiro-kobayashi> I don't have another idea
09:27:54 <masahito> shrike does same behaviors.
09:28:32 <priteau_> squirrel could look like this: http://7-themes.com/data_images/out/70/7011607-squirrel-nut.jpg
09:29:01 <GeraldK> chipmunk and squirrel as quite close and belong to the same family
09:29:59 <GeraldK> any other proposals?
09:30:59 <masahito> Current proposals are 1. house mouse, 2. squirrel, 3, shrike (4. blazar?), aren't these?
09:31:15 <priteau_> Forget the squirrel :(
09:31:42 <priteau_> Each project mascot must be distinct in stylized cartoon illustrations. Therefore, if one team chooses a “squirrel,” another team can’t choose a "chipmunk.”
09:32:02 <priteau_> Found this on http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/defcore-committee/2016-July/001151.html
09:32:10 <priteau_> Unless these rules don't apply anymore
09:32:32 <hiro-kobayashi> Wow
09:32:58 <priteau_> Although if it looks different enough
09:33:01 <priteau_> maybe it could work
09:33:53 <GeraldK> priteau_: the mouse should hold some cheese
09:34:15 <GeraldK> https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/tomandjerry/images/2/23/Jerry_with_a_cheese.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161207032215
09:34:45 <GeraldK> s/should/could/
09:34:57 <masahito> Anyway, I'll send the list to the openstack-dev. If you come to mind other idea, please replay it.
09:35:31 <hiro-kobayashi> thanks
09:35:47 <priteau_> Looks like the guidelines have changed a bit since this mailing list post
09:35:52 <priteau_> Now the mascot page says:
09:35:53 <priteau_> Mascots are assigned are on a first-come, first-served basis. For example, if a cat has already been selected by one project, then another project interested in a cat-like mascot should choose a significantly different type of cat, such as a leopard or tiger.
09:35:59 <masahito> It's important discussion for us ;-)
09:36:07 <priteau_> So significantly different species are OK
09:36:40 <hiro-kobayashi> So we have 4 candidates (including blazar)?
09:36:55 <masahito> yes.
09:37:06 <GeraldK> yes. include the blazar.
09:37:40 <priteau_> What is shrike? The bird? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrike
09:38:10 <GeraldK> priteau_: was wondering the same. there should be a page with explanations behind each mascot.
09:38:14 <masahito> priteau_: yes. The bird reserves their foods on tree for winter.
09:38:53 <priteau_> I didn't know about that
09:39:10 <GeraldK> birds are also quite territorial animals, so that would also match well
09:39:35 <priteau_> The problem with a bird like that is that it will be hard to identify when in cartoon form
09:40:02 <priteau_> It's not very distinctive from any other small bird
09:40:11 <GeraldK> priteau_ : yes, and there are already few birds in the list
09:40:23 <GeraldK> #link https://www.openstack.org/assets/software/mascots/OS-Mascot-Key.pdf
09:40:53 <priteau_> yes, and the existing birds are very distinctive (parrot, raven, swift, pigeon…)
09:43:07 <masahito> priteau_: yea... right.
09:43:45 <masahito> But final decision, duplication or etc, is done by the Foundation. IMO, it's okay to listing it.
09:44:43 <masahito> other comments about mascot?
09:44:54 <masahito> if nothing, move on to next.
09:45:48 <masahito> #topic AOB
09:46:34 <masahito> Does someone have something to share/discuss/talk?
09:47:02 <hiro-kobayashi> I have
09:47:40 <hiro-kobayashi> About the state-machine blueprint, I've changed states graphs.
09:48:31 <hiro-kobayashi> I care backward compatibility for the reservation state machine
09:49:15 <hiro-kobayashi> Please check if it is acceptable for Chameleon, priteau
09:50:09 <priteau_> hiro-kobayashi: Thanks. I haven't had time to review it yet, but will do ASAP
09:50:21 <hiro-kobayashi> priteau: thanks!
09:50:36 <hiro-kobayashi> After we make a consensus on the state-machine blueprint, I will also work on the resource monitoring blueprint
09:50:49 <GeraldK> thanks hiro
09:51:20 <hiro-kobayashi> And I've been working on the dashboard blueprint: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/blazar-dashboard+branch:master+topic:bp/host-operation-with-dashboard
09:52:13 <hiro-kobayashi> Zuul vote -1 but it does not block merging. So, please review them ;-)
09:52:57 <hiro-kobayashi> I think Zuul -1 can be solved by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509078/
09:53:30 <masahito> hiro-kobayashi: Thanks for the great works!
09:53:43 <hiro-kobayashi> But there is no way to recheck Zuul check. recheck comment triggers only Jenkins job (Zuul v2).
09:53:51 <masahito> I'll review it ASAP.
09:53:57 <hiro-kobayashi> masahito: thanks!
09:54:19 <hiro-kobayashi> 2 more patches may come for the dashboard blueprint ;-)
09:54:25 <hiro-kobayashi> That's all from me
09:55:29 <masahito> hiro-kobayashi: thanks again. If you need any help, please let us know.
09:55:39 <hiro-kobayashi> OK
09:55:55 <masahito> last 5 mins
09:56:56 <masahito> if nothing, finish the meeting earlier than as usual.
09:58:33 <GeraldK> okay. thanks and bye to everyone
09:58:43 <priteau_> Thanks all, good bye!
09:58:50 <masahito> thanks all, bye
09:58:52 <hiro-kobayashi> Thanks. bye!
09:58:58 <masahito> #endmeeting