21:00:39 <nijaba> #startmeeting Ceilometer
21:00:39 <nijaba> #meetingtopic Ceilometer
21:00:39 <nijaba> #chair nijaba
21:00:39 <nijaba> #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/MeteringAgenda
21:00:39 <nijaba> ATTENTION: please keep discussion focused on topic until we reach the open discussion topic
21:00:40 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Feb 27 21:00:39 2013 UTC.  The chair is nijaba. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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21:00:43 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer'
21:00:45 <openstack> Current chairs: nijaba
21:00:49 <nijaba> Hello everyone! Show of hands, who is around for the ceilometer meeting?
21:00:49 <nijaba> o/
21:00:50 <eglynn> o/
21:00:51 <zykes-> ooh
21:00:53 <zykes-> o/
21:00:53 <apmelton> o/
21:00:55 <fnaval> o/
21:00:59 <n0ano> o/
21:01:10 <dhellmann> o/
21:01:15 <zzs> o/
21:01:38 <nijaba> asalkeld: jd__ I am sure you guys are around too
21:01:45 <jd__> o/
21:01:48 <nijaba> nice to see everyone else
21:02:02 <maksimov1> o/
21:02:13 <nijaba> shall we start?
21:02:17 <nijaba> #topic actions from previous meeting
21:02:21 <shengjie_home> o/
21:02:32 <nijaba> #topic dhellmann add new architecture diagram to wiki
21:02:35 <nijaba> I believe this was done by eglynn, right?
21:02:41 <eglynn> yep
21:02:43 <dhellmann> yes, he did
21:02:48 <nijaba> #info done by eglynn
21:02:50 <dhellmann> and his was better suited so I didn't add mine
21:02:56 <eglynn> cool
21:03:16 <nijaba> thanks you both, anyway, as I saw you guys exchanging on the subject !
21:03:25 <asalkeld> hi
21:03:32 <nijaba> #topic eglynn add bumper-sticker statements to wiki
21:03:32 <nijaba> #info done
21:03:32 <nijaba> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ceilometer/Graduation#Key_take-aways
21:04:01 <nijaba> so if you don' t know what to put on your bumper, go there...
21:04:17 <nijaba> #topic nijaba to send a graduation email to the tc ml a few hours before the meeting, inviting to read the wiki
21:04:17 <nijaba> #info done
21:04:32 <nijaba> That was it for last week's action
21:04:44 <nijaba> #topic Graduation status
21:04:53 <nijaba> So I'd like to congratulate and thank everyone in the team as WE MADE IT
21:04:53 <nijaba> We are now officially an integrated openstack project!  Not yet core, but that's a Board decision from this point, not a TC one.
21:05:02 <zykes-> congrats all of ya!
21:05:02 <eglynn> w00t!
21:05:04 <jd__> \o/
21:05:06 * maksimov1 says woohoo
21:05:10 <dhellmann> :-)
21:05:17 <asalkeld> well done
21:05:41 <dhellmann> yes, lots of hard work from everyone on the team, thank you all!
21:05:41 <nijaba> that was a great team work!  I think we impressed them by our cohesion on prep...
21:05:42 <zzs> fabulous and congrats!!!
21:06:04 <nealph> kudos to all...especially those who worked the process to make it happen.
21:06:24 <nijaba> so, now if you know board members, it is time to buying them drinks
21:06:34 * nijaba hopes to get lots of free drinks this way ;)
21:06:47 * nealph thinks that's really working the process.
21:06:48 * dhellmann thinks nijaba has nothing to worry about on that front
21:06:48 <maksimov1> make them come over to dublin for some guinness
21:07:11 <eglynn> :) we always like to share our Guinness
21:07:29 <nijaba> maksimov1: eglynn: and I alsways enjoy drinking it ;)
21:07:36 <shengjie_home> good one, stas
21:07:59 <eglynn> do we need to make any practical changes to the way we do things as a project, as a result of the status change?
21:08:05 <nijaba> #topic Review status of blueprints that were granted an exception
21:08:14 <maksimov1> oh no
21:08:19 <nijaba> #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/publisher-counters-frequency
21:08:19 <nijaba> any update on this one?
21:08:25 <jd__> eglynn: I don't think so, we already did everything as incubated I think
21:08:31 <eglynn> cool
21:08:39 <jd__> nijaba: it has been merged
21:08:53 <nijaba> eglynn: I concur with jd__
21:08:59 <nijaba> jd__: great!!
21:09:04 <nijaba> #info merged
21:09:21 <nijaba> #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/hbase-storage-backend
21:09:21 <nijaba> what about that one?
21:09:24 <maksimov1> pretty much in nitpicking stage now
21:09:31 <jd__> yep
21:09:37 <jd__> should be fine soon now
21:09:38 <nijaba> good to hear!
21:09:46 <nijaba> and great job
21:09:53 <maksimov1> working on some performance optimizations but can go ahead without, i understand. and work those as an issue
21:10:00 <dhellmann> yeah, I have some concerns with the latest formula for calculating ranges, but I think we can work that out quickly
21:10:05 <nijaba> I am hearing lots of people really happy to see this happen
21:10:05 <jd__> maksimov1: yep
21:10:12 <dhellmann> and the performance stuff can be done as rc1 improvements
21:10:23 <nijaba> right
21:10:53 <nijaba> #info nice progress and soon to be merged
21:11:18 <nijaba> moving on to the next topic...
21:11:21 <nijaba> #topic RC1 status
21:11:32 <nijaba> Anything to be noted on our progress for RC1?  Any points to bring up?
21:12:19 <eglynn> good progress on qpid testing with devstack on ubuntu, some minor issues on fedora I need to work through
21:12:26 <dhellmann> asalkeld and I were discussing using gunicorn to run the v1 and v2 api together, and he raised the point about adding a new dependency
21:12:46 <nijaba> eglynn: good to hear
21:12:52 <asalkeld> dhellmann, I can maybe make it optional
21:12:52 <dhellmann> (for those who weren't in the metering room for that discussion)
21:12:53 <jd__> dhellmann: it's likely to be a bit late at this point yeah :(
21:13:07 <dhellmann> asalkeld: yeah, optional seems like a good way to go
21:13:31 <dhellmann> or, like I said, just document what needs to be done as an example
21:13:44 <jd__> could work to do
21:14:17 <nijaba> dhellmann: should we ask our favorite packagers what they think?  thinking of zul, zigo_ and the likes
21:14:18 <eglynn> the new dependency is packaged up already for deb & fedora, right?
21:14:20 <maksimov1> should we break out drivers into extras in rc1 or in havana?
21:14:32 <eglynn> (if I'm thinking of the same dep ...)
21:14:39 <dhellmann> eglynn: afaik, yes, there should be a package
21:14:43 <eglynn> cool
21:14:44 <dhellmann> it's not a new tool, it would just be new to us
21:15:08 <asalkeld> it's in ubuntu and fed
21:15:09 <dhellmann> maksimov1: I think that's definitely a havana change, since it means lots of repository shuffling.
21:15:25 <jd__> dhellmann: not if you use extra_require I think
21:15:44 <dhellmann> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/separate-storage-packages
21:15:56 <nijaba> asalkeld: and they both have the version you need or greater?
21:15:58 <dhellmann> jd__: yes, but if nothing actually pays attention to that list I'm not sure how it helps end users
21:16:13 <asalkeld> nijaba, I'll neeed to see
21:16:21 <jd__> dhellmann: nothing?
21:16:27 <maksimov1> oh nice we have a bp
21:16:42 <jd__> dhellmann: that's at least a big hint for packagers to use the good fields in their packages
21:16:46 <dhellmann> jd__: well, if I deploy celometer, how do I know which driver wants which extras?
21:16:57 <jd__> dhellmann: you can map features tu requirements
21:17:03 <jd__> s/tu/to/
21:17:17 <dhellmann> ok, I'll have to read more about that
21:18:02 <jd__> ok :)
21:18:51 <nijaba> anything else about rc1?
21:19:00 <nijaba> or shall we move to the next topic?
21:19:18 <dhellmann> +1
21:19:27 <nijaba> #topic Summit sessions
21:19:28 <eglynn> go for it
21:19:38 <nijaba> Just a reminder that we should start submitting session topics (and blueprints linked to it) for the dev summit.  I think only sandywalsh and dhellmann has provided some so far
21:19:38 <nijaba> #link http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/topic/1
21:19:44 <nealph> fyi, we have 2 discussion bp's in the queue for internal approval...hoping to post them up asap.
21:20:02 <nijaba> something tells me that an alerting session or 2 is going to show up
21:20:06 <maksimov1> shengjie_home: if you're going, will you have a topic?
21:20:17 * eglynn just got travel approval, was holding off submitting til then
21:20:21 <asalkeld> nijaba, eglynn is planning that
21:20:25 <eglynn> yep
21:20:29 <nijaba> neat
21:20:56 <shengjie_home> maksimov1: sure , we can work out a topic too
21:21:19 <maksimov1> nijaba: is there a deadline for topics submission?
21:21:33 <eglynn> nijaba: have you confirmed the time slice the ceilo track is getting?
21:21:34 <nijaba> maksimov1: I think the deadline is 1 week prior to the summit
21:21:45 <maksimov1> nijaba: cool. plenty'o'time
21:21:51 <eglynn> (also whether it won't clash with the heat track ...)
21:21:52 <shengjie_home> nice
21:21:56 <nijaba> but the eralier the better, as it will help determine how many 1/2 days we neeed a room for
21:22:17 <shengjie_home> nijaba: we will have something by this week
21:22:28 <nijaba> so I'd rather have topic early, with empty bp, than not enough time alocated
21:22:51 <asalkeld> ok
21:22:52 <maksimov1> i'd go with next week, just to be safe :)
21:22:56 <nealph> ahh, okay. will keep that in mind if internal gears grind too slowly...
21:24:00 <eglynn> sounds like some horse-trading to be done between PTLs on how much time each project gets?
21:24:26 <maksimov1> :)
21:24:38 <nijaba> eglynn: not even sure there is tradding to be done this time.   I think we can get our own room for 4 days if we ask for it
21:25:12 <nijaba> actually, we could use it as a coding room when we don' t have sessions, maybe?
21:25:13 <eglynn> a-ha, ok
21:25:27 <eglynn> hackathon stylee?
21:25:29 <maksimov1> haha, nijaba, nice
21:25:33 <nijaba> yup
21:25:43 <nijaba> I'll check into it
21:25:50 <eglynn> could be fun
21:25:56 <asalkeld> yip
21:26:11 <nijaba> #action nijaba to check room allocation for ceilometer during summit
21:26:32 <nijaba> anything else on this topic?
21:27:05 <nijaba> #topic Open discussion
21:27:28 * nijaba notes that we may finish early today....  has not happened in a while
21:27:47 <eglynn> yep
21:27:51 <nijaba> anything, anyone?
21:28:01 <asalkeld> no, all good
21:28:03 <dhellmann> nope
21:28:03 <maksimov1> nope, everything is perfect
21:28:17 <jd__> nope too
21:28:21 <shengjie_home> nope
21:28:24 <nijaba> Should we work on some ceilometer tshirts for the project team?
21:28:32 <maksimov1> who has skills?
21:28:48 <dhellmann> yes! :-)
21:28:50 <nealph> what's the update on the logo?
21:28:52 <zykes-> to those of you that's uninformed: https://github.com/billingstack/billingstack/
21:28:57 <nijaba> to draw tshirts?  I think I can find someone
21:29:10 <zykes-> just thought I'd pop that in :) . we're planning on consuming Ceilometer data in not too long
21:29:22 <nijaba> well, I don't think we have found volunteers for the logo
21:29:28 <maksimov1> zykes-:  interesting
21:30:30 <nijaba> #action nijaba to start a brainstorm wiki for a tag line on the tshirt
21:30:58 <zykes-> there's some other stuff as well maksimov1, that is just 1 part our little plan ;p
21:31:10 <eglynn> "in soviet russia, cloud meters you"
21:31:21 <nijaba> "We push metrics to the clouds"
21:31:27 * eglynn steals from humour at TC meeting last night ...
21:31:51 <jd__> eglynn: lol
21:31:55 <nealph> "our metrics are cloudy". maybe not...
21:31:56 <nijaba> actually that's originaly mirantis... the clouds deploys you
21:32:12 <nijaba> "how high can your cloud go?"
21:32:22 <nijaba> "how high on clouds are you?"
21:32:36 <maksimov1> as a russian i find "in soviet russia" jokes a bit dated ;)
21:32:37 <jd__> We are weather!
21:33:18 <nijaba> we are the dow of cloud (if some remember a similar add by sun)
21:33:27 <eglynn> maksimov1: apologies :)
21:33:46 <maksimov1> no worries eglynn i make them myself sometimes :P
21:33:47 <eglynn> (I also find Irish jokes about drinking, fighting & potatoes grate a little ...)
21:34:09 <maksimov1> ah sure it's alright
21:34:10 <nijaba> eglynn: really, you've got to share a few though ;)
21:34:28 <eglynn> over beer at summit ;)
21:34:41 <nijaba> eglynn: deal
21:34:49 <dhellmann> speaking of that, I hope we can manage a team dinner this time around
21:35:04 <eglynn> great idea
21:35:09 <dhellmann> I'd be willing to forego one of the parties if necessary based on travel arrangements
21:35:15 <asalkeld> yea, and eglynn will grate some potatoes
21:35:18 <asalkeld> ;)
21:35:23 <dhellmann> though I probably have to attend the dreamhost party, if we give one
21:35:23 <maksimov1> :D
21:35:37 <dhellmann> s/have to/should/
21:35:48 <nijaba> +1 on a team dinner
21:35:50 <eglynn> prolly best avoid the jet-lagged sunday evening meetup this time if poss
21:35:55 <nijaba> maybe sunday night?
21:35:58 <dhellmann> right, that's what I was thinking
21:36:02 <nijaba> ahah
21:37:04 <dhellmann> I'm not arriving until around 9:00 sunday evening, myself
21:37:32 <eglynn> 20:15 for me ... 4am body-clock time
21:37:35 <dhellmann> we can wait to see what the schedule looks like, but I was thinking monday or tuesday might work best
21:37:36 <maksimov1> for t-shirt tag something as blunt as wiki excerpt may do well - Ceilometer: a device that uses a LASER to measure height of a cloud. how much cooler can you get?
21:37:48 <nijaba> ok, so doodle but I suggest to do this after we have a schedule of the parties!!!
21:37:55 <dhellmann> nijaba: +1
21:38:45 <nijaba> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ceilometer/TagLine
21:39:00 <nijaba> fire away with any idea you may have!!
21:39:25 <nijaba> anything else before I go to bed?  ;)
21:39:33 <eglynn> nope
21:39:36 <dhellmann> not here
21:39:59 <jd__> all clear
21:40:00 <maksimov1> i'm cool
21:40:23 <nijaba> ok, thanks a lot everyone.  another fun meeting together!
21:40:40 <nijaba> next meeting thu march 7th 15UTC
21:40:46 <nijaba> #endmeeting