21:00:18 <jd__> #startmeeting ceilometer 21:00:19 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jul 17 21:00:18 2013 UTC. The chair is jd__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:20 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:00:23 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' 21:00:51 <eglynn> o/ 21:00:53 <jd__> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MeteringAgenda 21:01:13 <asalkeld> o/ 21:01:21 <terriyu> o/ 21:01:25 <gordc> o/ 21:01:37 <dhellmann> o/ 21:01:42 * dhellmann is on a flakey connection 21:01:52 <nealph> o/ 21:02:17 <jd__> #topic action from previous meeting: nealph to track tempest QA efforts 21:02:25 * jd__ looks at nealph 21:02:34 <nealph> So, I've created a new tempest bp at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/basic-tempest-integration-for-ceilometer 21:02:46 <DanD_> o/ 21:03:07 <nealph> I think it makes sense for lilu to make it a dependancy in his cm blueprint as well 21:03:31 <eglynn> is this matcher mechanism used by the Heat Tempest tests also I wonder? 21:03:48 <asalkeld> not sure 21:03:57 <nealph> Perhaps...still looking at it. I'll follow the general approach taken by other tempest bp's including heat 21:04:04 <eglynn> if so, there would be some experience to leverage 21:04:08 <eglynn> cool 21:04:12 <nealph> that'd be great. 21:04:29 <nealph> the question is timeline...do we have to have this for h2/h3? 21:04:43 <asalkeld> ask stevebaker (he did all of the Heat tempest work) 21:04:43 <eglynn> not for h2 certainly 21:04:50 <eglynn> h3 more reasonable 21:05:00 * nealph sighs in relief 21:05:04 <jd__> nealph: only if someone is committing to it 21:05:42 <nealph> okay, will finish looking into it asap and try to scope it. 21:05:56 <jd__> nealph: do we need to #action this again? 21:06:01 <woodspa> #openstack-tempest 21:06:01 <nealph> yep. 21:06:31 <jd__> #action nealph to finish looking into tempest QA efforts 21:06:42 <nealph> perfect...you typed faster than I did. 21:06:46 <nealph> :d 21:06:50 <dhellmann> nealph, is the "read the full specification" link on that bp right? 21:07:52 <nealph> which one would that be? 21:08:05 <nealph> the tempest spec? no. 21:08:20 <dhellmann> yes, that's the one I meant 21:08:43 <jd__> you may want to edit that indeed :) 21:09:15 <nealph> will do...currently points to the ceilometer testing docs. 21:09:43 <jd__> #topic Add logging to our IRC channel? 21:09:50 <jd__> #vote yes 21:10:00 <eglynn> #vote yes 21:10:17 <dhellmann> the infra team is going to be offering to turn on logging for channels that want it (if jeblair hasn't already sent that email and I just missed it) 21:10:17 <asalkeld> why? 21:10:26 <dhellmann> if we'd like to have it logged, I can take care of it 21:10:36 <asalkeld> #vote no 21:10:45 <jeblair> (i don't think it's been sent) 21:10:45 * eglynn logs locally when online, great to have backup logs though for out-of-TZ traffic 21:11:20 <gordc> i'm indifferent 21:11:30 <asalkeld> how long do they get kept 21:11:30 <eglynn> would logging change the way people interact? 21:11:39 <eglynn> i.e. make folks more guarded? 21:11:45 <dhellmann> asalkeld: afaik, indefinitely 21:11:56 <eglynn> asalkeld: is that the objection? ^^^ 21:11:56 <gordc> eglynn, no spontaneous tirades? 21:12:03 <asalkeld> eglynn, I think that is an issue 21:12:07 <eglynn> gordc: LOL 21:12:11 <dhellmann> eglynn: I hope not, but that's why I suggested infra ask instead of just doing it 21:12:15 <eglynn> asalkeld: yeah, you could have a point 21:12:27 <nealph> I think there's a lot of good info lost though... 21:12:40 <dhellmann> maybe this is something to think about? 21:12:45 <asalkeld> well could try it 21:12:54 <asalkeld> can we turn it on/off? 21:12:56 <dhellmann> we have time; maybe vote next week? 21:13:04 <gordc> yeah, a vote for is that i don't think anyone is on the west coast of north america 21:13:15 <dhellmann> asalkeld: it's a setting in the config file for the bot, and goes through change review 21:13:16 <eglynn> dhellmann: +1 for more thought 21:13:17 <gordc> often see random questions popping up late 21:13:22 <dhellmann> so we can turn it off, but not quickly or easily 21:13:37 <jd__> dhellmann: they should implement a #offtherecord command :) 21:13:44 <dhellmann> jd__: patches welcome? 21:13:50 <jd__> hehe 21:13:56 <dhellmann> that's a good idea 21:14:20 <jd__> let's settle on voting next week then? 21:14:21 <asalkeld> well one good thing is the ablity to see over time what questions get asked 21:14:23 <dhellmann> well, maybe not -- you can always move the tirade to another room :-) 21:14:37 <asalkeld> (i.e. what needs documenting) 21:14:40 <dhellmann> asalkeld: yeah, I think that's going to prove to be more important for us over time 21:15:22 <asalkeld> (but still a little weird) 21:15:28 <asalkeld> been recorded 21:15:37 <eglynn> 1984-ish? 21:15:54 <jd__> asalkeld: a lot of people already log the channel, me included 21:15:57 <dhellmann> I tend to assume text chats are recorded anyway, but maybe that's just me 21:16:02 <jd__> dhellmann: me too 21:16:11 <asalkeld> well I guess everything is recorded by government 21:16:13 <eglynn> NSA is watching everything anyway ;) 21:16:20 <jd__> :-) 21:16:31 <jd__> NSA is the cloud. 21:16:39 <thomasem> D= 21:16:48 <asalkeld> nsa use openstack at least;) 21:17:11 <asalkeld> but are they metering there usage? 21:17:29 * jd__ waits for an agent to pop in any minute now 21:18:02 <eglynn> there's probably been someone in deep cover here all along ;) 21:18:10 <jd__> so do we already say yes to dhellmann or do you want vote next week? 21:18:11 <asalkeld> btw: huge thanks to all for helping with the alarm stuff 21:18:26 <asalkeld> it's almost all working end to end 21:18:33 <eglynn> yay! 21:18:34 <dhellmann> nice :-) 21:18:43 <jd__> \o/ 21:19:02 <jd__> I guess the beauty is doing that for h2 so we've time to polish 21:19:23 <asalkeld> I have to wait for h3 to get the heat side in 21:19:27 <jd__> #topic Review Havana-2 milestone 21:19:37 <jd__> switching topic since we're disrgressing 21:19:44 <eglynn> when was milestone-proposed cut? 21:19:50 <dhellmann> earlier today 21:19:55 <jd__> (dhellmann: I let the log stuff on the agenda for next week) 21:19:56 <dhellmann> your mailbox didn't overflow like mine? 21:20:01 <jd__> it did 21:20:06 <dhellmann> jd__: ok 21:20:19 * eglynn jumped the gun so on assigning https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1202143 to h2 21:20:20 <jd__> the branch's cut and tomorrow Ceilometer shall be released 21:20:22 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1202143 in ceilometer "sample POST fails on pipeline publish if user & project IDs not explicitly set" [Critical,Fix committed] 21:20:40 <jd__> eglynn: did you see the backlog on -dev about that bug with ttx? 21:20:40 <eglynn> are backports still being accepted> 21:20:42 <eglynn> ? 21:20:57 * eglynn reads backs ... 21:20:58 <jd__> eglynn: yes that was our point with ttx, you'll need to backport this one to the milestone-proposed branch 21:21:08 <jd__> eglynn: but you sure can 21:21:11 <eglynn> jd__: k, I'll do straight after meeting 21:21:27 <jd__> eglynn: thumps up 21:21:31 <eglynn> cool 21:21:53 <jd__> so h2's done congrats everyone 21:21:59 <jd__> we didn't push so many stuff to h3 21:22:06 <jd__> so h3 is a lot of low priority bp mainly 21:22:13 <asalkeld> heaps done 21:22:20 <jd__> #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/havana-3 21:22:51 <asalkeld> the group-by one 21:23:25 <jd__> asalkeld: ? 21:23:41 <dhellmann> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/api-group-by 21:23:42 <asalkeld> don't worry j 21:24:14 <asalkeld> that one has been pushed back for a while 21:24:48 <jd__> terriyu will be working on it starting now 21:24:49 <terriyu> I'm supposed to be working on that blueprint ... 21:24:55 <asalkeld> cool 21:25:23 <jd__> so feel free to exchange with her if you feel so :) I'm sure she'll be happy to get help 21:26:01 <terriyu> yes, I have no idea what I'm doing, so I'm always interested in talking 21:26:11 <asalkeld> btw: we should have someone from new zealand joining the dev team soon (not from red hat) 21:26:37 <jd__> asalkeld: great 21:27:02 <eglynn> asalkeld: moving the project centre of gravity down-under :) 21:27:08 <jd__> #topic Release python-ceilometerclient? 21:27:23 <eglynn> need to wait for asalkeld sample-create patch to land 21:27:26 <jd__> Needed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36905/ to uncap keystoneclient dep 21:27:37 <eglynn> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37410/ 21:27:42 <asalkeld> that would be nice 21:27:50 <stevebaker> asalkeld: who? 21:28:14 <asalkeld> Aurynn Shaw 21:28:33 <asalkeld> (catalyst) 21:29:28 <jd__> I'll have a few comments on that one eglynn 21:29:36 <jd__> as soon as it lands, who's up for releasing? 21:30:06 <eglynn> I can do it 21:30:16 <stevebaker> asalkeld: ha! I know her 21:30:30 <asalkeld> stevebaker, cool 21:30:33 <eglynn> (the client relase that is ...) 21:30:49 <jd__> eglynn: thanks (lo) 21:30:52 <jd__> *lol 21:31:29 * nealph is rethinking logging ^^^^ 21:31:29 <jd__> #action eglynn release python-ceilometerclient as soon as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37410/ gets in and unblock https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36905/ 21:31:49 <jd__> #topic Open discussion 21:33:28 <gordc> if anyone has time, there's two patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/31969 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36213/ 21:33:47 <gordc> first patch is just the specs... 21:33:49 <jd__> nah, time to sleep here :) 21:33:59 <jd__> gordc: so they're ready? 21:34:12 <gordc> i should warn that the code is size is... large. 21:34:19 <jd__> :( 21:34:37 <gordc> jd__, i think its there, probably will change based on feedback. 21:34:42 <eglynn> not targeted at h2 surely? 21:35:15 <gordc> i thought we cut it today. 21:35:57 <jd__> no way for h2 21:36:02 <jd__> h2 is tomorrow morning 21:36:03 <eglynn> gordc: well miletsone-proposed is cut hope to still get https://review.openstack.org/37574 in on that 21:36:30 <gordc> but yeah, take your time. just thought i'd bring it up. the first patch is just specs so don't let the 2000 lines throw you...its mostly just notes. 21:37:09 <gordc> eglynn, yeah, this would be too big for h2... i don't have enough money to pay you guys to get it in. 21:37:18 <eglynn> gordc: cool :) 21:37:52 <gordc> but if you want to do it out of pure kindness... don't let me stop you guys. 21:39:04 <jd__> (ending the meeting in a minute) 21:40:23 <jd__> #endmeeting