15:00:27 <jd__> #startmeeting ceilometer
15:00:28 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Oct 31 15:00:27 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jd__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:00:31 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer'
15:00:32 <openstack> bswartz: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.
15:00:40 <bswartz> whoops wrongchannel
15:00:41 <jd__> good one bswartz
15:00:42 <jd__> :)
15:00:47 <bswartz> haha
15:00:54 <eglynn_> o/
15:00:55 <llu-laptop> 2 meetings in the same time?
15:00:59 <terriyu> o/
15:00:59 <litong> o/
15:01:03 <llu-laptop> o/
15:01:09 <mrutkows> o/
15:01:18 <jd__> hocus pocus who is present for the scariest meeting of the year?
15:01:33 <nprivalova> :)
15:01:47 <dhellmann> o/
15:02:40 <nprivalova> all pumpkins are here
15:02:42 * terriyu puts on bunny ears
15:02:54 <jd__> #topic Release python-ceilometerclient?
15:03:11 <jd__> shall we? eglynn maybe an idea?
15:03:14 <thomasem> o/
15:03:46 <eglynn> should we hold off til groupby support is added to the client?
15:03:53 <jd__> good enough for me
15:03:56 <eglynn> (needed for horizon)
15:03:59 <eglynn> cool
15:04:05 <dhellmann> at this point, I'd suggest we wait until after the summit, too -- in case the release breaks the gate or something :-)
15:04:13 <eglynn> dhellmann: that's fair
15:04:18 <jd__> fair enough
15:04:21 <apmelton> o/
15:04:42 <jd__> #topic Design summit
15:04:57 <dragondm> o/
15:04:57 <jd__> FWIW schedule has been pushed at http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/
15:05:01 <sandywalsh_> o/
15:05:31 <jd__> Ceilometer sessions are scattered across 3 days
15:05:34 <terriyu> is that the finalized schedule?
15:06:16 <jd__> terriyu: very likely, maybe you'll see a few swap, but it should be done by now
15:06:28 <nprivalova> FYI https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Etherpads#Ceilometer
15:06:31 <jd__> anyway you can rely on sched.org to build your schedule
15:06:47 <jd__> ah thanks nprivalova !
15:06:52 <dhellmann> unfortunately the oslo track overlaps with ceilometer quite a bit, so I will miss several of the ceilometer sessions
15:07:12 <jd__> and I will miss several oslo sessions :(
15:07:25 <lsmola> hello
15:07:39 <sandywalsh_> don't forget to hang around on Friday for http://openstacksummitnovember2013.sched.org/event/a3b4e921a306b6187cb982330d3999a0#.UnJyKvnkt8E
15:07:45 <sandywalsh_> last of the week :(
15:08:29 <litong> is there a theme for Ceilometer in this summit?
15:08:46 <litong> such as what should be focus on in Icehouse.
15:09:01 <jd__> we also have http://openstacksummitnovember2013.sched.org/event/02a1ea504b3dec538eaedca5e31461ed with eglynn and nijaba_
15:09:17 * jd__ papats sandywalsh_ for its bad time slot
15:09:34 <jd__> litong: a talk? not really
15:10:11 <sandywalsh_> jd__, the worst
15:10:14 <jd__> if you've sessions, think about preparing a few stuff before I'd say
15:10:20 <litong> not looking for a talk , sort of setting up a tone for next release, for example, scalability as the main focus in icehouse.
15:10:27 <jd__> like on etherpad or the like
15:10:42 <jd__> litong: we'll see after the summit I guess
15:10:50 <sandywalsh_> litong, for us it's events :)
15:11:04 <nprivalova> guys, please feel free to help me to prepare a session about integration tests https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-summit-ceilometer-integration-tests
15:11:15 <litong> @sandywalsh, or alarm improvement?
15:11:30 <nprivalova> *help us :)
15:12:00 <sandywalsh_> litong, that's just some sugar for the existing alarm improvement talk ... not my focus, just observations.
15:12:32 <jd__> different people, different companies, different needs, different direction
15:12:40 <jd__> we'll have a lot of focus :)
15:12:54 <jd__> and I think more people, more effort and more features!
15:13:17 <jd__> any other question on the summit preparation?
15:14:10 <jd__> #topic Open discussion
15:14:32 <jd__> We can wrap up early if nobody has something to add
15:14:40 <terriyu> any news about the Ceilometer reporting intern project?
15:14:56 <terriyu> I thought maybe sandywalsh_ might know?
15:15:27 <sandywalsh_> terriyu, would be great to get a CV or something on the candidate (if things work that way) ... perhaps a repo to look at?
15:15:49 <terriyu> sandywalsh_: I meant, did anyone contact you?
15:16:29 <terriyu> for reference, the intern project I'm talking about is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OutreachProgramForWomen/Ideas#Reporting_Framework_for_Ceilometer_based_on_Oslo_Reporting
15:16:38 <sandywalsh_> terriyu, nope
15:16:41 <nprivalova> guys, are you looking for interns or mentors?
15:16:46 <jd__> terriyu: me neither FWIW
15:16:55 <sandywalsh_> nprivalova, interns
15:17:17 <thomasem> sandywalsh_, terriyu: sphoorti, the intern from the other day was in #openstack-opw asking about first steps yesterday.
15:17:39 <thomasem> Just as a heads up. Maybe there's some confusion on where to go?
15:17:49 <terriyu> thomasem: yay, I thought she quit on us
15:18:01 <thomasem> IIRC, that was the one candidate interested in adding Ceilometer reporting.
15:18:41 <jd__> too bad
15:18:44 <terriyu> thomasem: did you tell her to join #openstack-metering ?
15:18:59 <nprivalova> and what is required from an intern? CV?
15:19:01 <thomasem> terriyu, Nah, I was actually away and saw my handle mentioned after she had left.
15:19:48 <terriyu> sandywalsh_  jd__ thomasem : sphoorti appears to be logged on in #openstack-opw
15:20:09 <terriyu> could try to contact her after the meeting
15:20:14 <jd__> nprivalova: not really I think the OPW site might have something about how to apply on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OutreachProgramForWomen
15:20:15 <sandywalsh_> k, we can take that off line
15:20:19 <thomasem> Yep
15:21:03 <jd__> anything else? or closing in a minute :)
15:21:08 <sandywalsh_> so, we just had a big meeting internally about getting reports out of ceilometer. There's no pretty answer. How are people dealing with that today?
15:21:22 <thomasem> ^^
15:21:30 <sandywalsh_> no one wants to write YART (yet another reporting tool)
15:21:33 <jd__> sandywalsh_: I think nobody's dealing with it, yet
15:21:38 <dragondm> Ah
15:21:44 <sandywalsh_> yeah, messy. Sadly, we have to.
15:22:13 <jd__> indeed
15:22:15 <nealph_> we've done some significant api work internally and really do hope to push it back in...just a matter of time.
15:22:16 <sandywalsh_> I'd hate to see another reporting product get created
15:22:22 <thomasem> Yeah. The current solution is about as clunky as it gets, but came from necessity and very little time.
15:22:26 <tri2sing> we connect a pentaho instance to the MongoDB
15:22:42 <sandywalsh_> tri2sing, interesting ... that's the approach we were considering
15:22:45 <dragondm> how is that working for you?
15:22:46 <tri2sing> and develop reports independently of Horizon
15:22:54 <tri2sing> It is taking some work
15:23:08 <tri2sing> Pentaho  (community) does not natively support
15:23:11 <tri2sing> MongoDB
15:23:22 <sandywalsh_> maybe an Unconference on reporting at the summit?
15:23:24 <nealph_> sandywalsh: did you mean independently of horizon?
15:23:29 <sandywalsh_> nealph_, yeah
15:23:32 <tri2sing> Yes I did
15:23:48 <tri2sing> For an end user to see the Ceilometer data
15:23:49 <nealph_> ahh, yes. unconference.
15:23:56 <sandywalsh_> can you sign up for unconferences before the summit? Or do we still have to write on the board?
15:24:04 <tri2sing> She has to connect to Pentaho ever
15:24:16 <thomasem> The other problem is a user being able to see Ceilometer data and other downstream systems using Ceilomter data.
15:24:16 <sandywalsh_> tri2sing, hmm, yucky
15:24:21 <jd__> sandywalsh_: from what I've heard, the answer is 'whiteboard'
15:24:45 <jd__> sandywalsh_: i.e. a shame :)
15:24:46 <sandywalsh_> jd__, yep, figured so much. That's best I think anyway
15:25:02 <sandywalsh_> jd__, yeah, voting would be nice though
15:25:20 <jd__> if unconference around Ceilometer are planned, think about spamming openstack-dev
15:25:27 <jd__> not sure i'll check the white board often
15:25:41 <sandywalsh_> jd__, I'll create one for the trigger pipeline/manager efforts
15:25:47 <jd__> cool
15:25:58 <jd__> bonus point if it's book during time slots where I'm free :D
15:26:07 <sandywalsh_> heh, I'm not a miracle worker
15:26:07 <jd__> +ed
15:27:09 <llu-laptop> terriyu: saw your travel tips https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Travel_Tips, thanks for the information, it's very helpful
15:27:24 <terriyu> llu-laptop: thanks
15:27:32 <terriyu> sorry, I haven't finished it
15:27:45 <terriyu> I'll try to work on it some more in the next couple days
15:29:34 <jd__> #endmeeting