21:05:35 <eglynn> #startmeeting ceilometer
21:05:36 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Apr  9 21:05:35 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is eglynn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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21:05:39 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer'
21:05:45 <sileht> o/
21:05:48 <llu-laptop> o/
21:05:49 <gordc> o/
21:05:50 <ildikov> o/
21:05:55 <nsaje> o/
21:06:07 <eglynn> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ceilometer#Agenda
21:06:19 <eglynn> folks, I'll channel jd__ tonight
21:06:26 <eglynn> #topic Release status
21:06:54 <eglynn> so it looks like RC2 is done, anyone think we'll need to do another round?
21:07:14 <gordc> haven't noticed anything major in bugs.
21:07:26 <ildikov> me neither
21:07:32 <eglynn> wasn't much in RC2 TBH
21:07:41 <eglynn> #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/icehouse-rc2
21:07:59 <ildikov> the translation fix was quite huge BTW
21:12:02 <eglynn_> sorry folks, laptop died on me
21:12:13 <gordc> :) was just going to say something.
21:12:19 <ildikov> eglynn: it's a sign ;)
21:12:28 <eglynn_> ildikov: LOL :)
21:12:45 <eglynn_> so we still on release status?
21:12:57 <gordc> we can move on.
21:13:10 <gordc> no one brought anything up.
21:13:11 <eglynn_> just mention the release notes
21:13:18 <eglynn_> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Icehouse#OpenStack_Metering_.28Ceilometer.29
21:13:29 <eglynn_> I took an initial crack at these earlier
21:14:01 <eglynn_> ... nadya & ildikov already subjected them to the eagle-eyed treatment
21:14:11 <eglynn_> but could the more eyes the better
21:14:22 <eglynn_> ... in case I left something out
21:14:35 <eglynn_> ... particularly the known issues section
21:15:01 <eglynn_> gordc: does the characterization of the multi-collector+postgres issue ring true to you?
21:15:30 <gordc> eglynn: yep. did you want me to add a bit more detail
21:15:47 <eglynn> gordc: that would be great!
21:15:49 <eglynn> thanks!
21:16:05 <gordc> ok. actually i should just put a bug for this and attach it... will start after meeting
21:16:25 <eglynn> gordc: thank you sir!
21:16:31 <eglynn> k, moving on ...
21:16:38 <eglynn> #topic TC gap analysis for ceilometer
21:17:02 <eglynn> so basically the TC is retrospectively going thru' all the graduated projects
21:17:19 <eglynn> seeing as the bar has been raised for incubating projects now seeking to graduate
21:17:37 <eglynn> only fair the the project like own get the same level of grilling I guess
21:18:13 <eglynn> here's the summary of where we are now ...
21:18:17 <eglynn> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ceilometer-integrated-requirements
21:18:32 <eglynn> and here's the TC discussion ...
21:18:42 <eglynn> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2014/tc.2014-04-08-20.02.log.html
21:19:24 <eglynn> tl;dr: action on either gordc or I to present a rough plan to the TC next week on how we're gonna address these gaps
21:19:57 <eglynn> (missing misson statement, light on docco, tempest coverage, sqla issues ... etc.)
21:20:15 <eglynn> inevitably that's gonna color the focus for ATL & Juno in general
21:20:28 <ildikov> I assume we need to identify the dependencies and then we can have a prioritized list of critical TODOs
21:20:42 <eglynn> ... so just a head's up if you're mulling subbmitting design summit proposals
21:21:15 <eglynn> ildikov: yep, we'll have to collectively scope out a plan early next week
21:21:35 <gordc> ildikov: we'll be targetting the '#info Ceilometer gap' items from tc discussion.
21:22:13 <ildikov> eglynn: fair enough, let's focus on this now
21:22:32 <eglynn> yeap, there were definite issues raised by the TC, plus I guess we all have our own soap-boxes
21:23:07 <ildikov> gordc: sure, I just meant that we need to figure out the DBs and the gate issue and then we can have a chance to get the tempest covered, the doc is a separate item, etc
21:23:39 <gordc> ildikov: yep. that sounds like a good plan.
21:23:57 <eglynn> ... it was a bit of a grilling last night, but overall I think the TC were fair enough in their appraisal
21:24:35 <ildikov> gordc: I can add an action items list to the etherpad and then it can be extended
21:24:52 <eglynn> ildikov: cool, thanks
21:25:13 <eglynn> ... shall we move on?
21:25:28 <gordc> eglynn: works for me.
21:25:37 <eglynn> #topic Tempest integration
21:25:44 <ildikov> gordc, eglynn: I will try to order it as much as possible, and then we will be able to keep the focus and not getting lost among the several items
21:26:00 <eglynn> no nadya in the house?
21:26:27 <ildikov> I haven't seen her join
21:26:34 <eglynn> k, let's punt on this topic then
21:26:42 <eglynn> (since we'll need definite detail prior to the TC meeting next week)
21:26:43 <ildikov> but I assume this topic is a bit blocked now :(
21:26:47 <eglynn> yeap
21:26:57 <eglynn> #topic Release python-ceilometerclient?
21:27:05 <eglynn> no need 1.0.10 went out last week
21:27:12 <eglynn> #topic Open discussion
21:28:42 <eglynn> ... doesn't daylight savings time suck? ;)
21:28:50 <ildikov> hmm, it seems that DST has some impact on this meeting :)
21:29:01 <eglynn> ... esp. when meetings are shceduled in UTC
21:29:01 <gordc> lol i thought it was a north american thing.
21:29:13 <ildikov> eglynn: LOL :)
21:29:22 <nsaje> exactly, should be scheduled with IANA Timezones!
21:29:33 <eglynn> maybe we should re-consider our alternating timeslot?
21:29:55 <sileht> Do you want to land the oslo.messaging patch soon ? (I have to rebase it a bit)
21:29:59 <eglynn> ... IIRC it was set up that way to facilitate asalkeld attending every other week
21:30:21 <gordc> eglynn: +1 on voting for new time (seems to be quite late for you guys)
21:30:22 <eglynn> sileht: the oslo-messaging now has everything you need?
21:30:46 <eglynn> sileht: in terms of those new features you added (timestamps, retries etc.)
21:30:53 <sileht> eglynn, yes the first (big) patch can be landed (after I have rebase it)
21:31:03 <eglynn> sileht: excellent!
21:31:10 <ildikov> sileht: it was the one we agreed on merging it in early Juno?
21:31:11 <sileht> eglynn, I have separate the retries patches to unblock the ceilometer patch
21:31:16 <eglynn> sileht: I'll take a retailed look tmrw
21:31:21 <gordc> sileht: i'll take a look at it when you re-upload.
21:31:30 <sileht> I need to rebase it before
21:31:39 <sileht> I will submit it tomorow
21:31:41 <eglynn> sileht: (... I was holding off assuming that oslo-message still wasn't up to snuff)
21:31:43 <gordc> sileht: you're so close to 50 patchesets though!
21:31:46 <eglynn> *messaging
21:32:07 <ildikov> sileht: if the eager two haven't gotten there on time, I can take a look also :)
21:32:39 <eglynn> gordc: ... re. meeting timeslot I guess we should wait for a full quorem to be present?
21:33:21 <eglynn> gordc: ... pulling off a coup d'état might be considered a tad rude ;)
21:34:09 <gordc> eglynn: coup's are the new trend :) maybe bring it up next thurs and have vote next wed? we'll let people think about it.
21:34:12 <ildikov> eglynn: agree
21:34:25 <llu-laptop> eglynn: agreed
21:34:40 <eglynn> gordc, ildikov, llu-laptop: cool, sounds like a plan
21:35:40 <eglynn> k peeps, anything else on the hive mind?
21:35:52 <llu-laptop> ildikov: b.t.w. which time zone are u in, may I ask?
21:36:19 <gordc> http://summit.openstack.org/ if anyone has ideas for design sessions.
21:37:07 <ildikov> llu-laptop: GMT+1, so it's 11:36pm not that bad, but 'good' is not like this
21:37:41 <ildikov> llu-laptop: DST here means UTC+2 to convert it to the meeting timezone
21:38:43 <eglynn> ... maybe we could run a doodle survey to see which slots would suit the majority of active contributors
21:38:57 <llu-laptop> eglynn: great
21:39:00 <nealph> gordc: thanks for the reminder...have added a session on tripleO+ceilometer, as verifying integration is nearly 90% of my current focus. :\
21:39:05 <ildikov> eglynn: good idea
21:39:11 <eglynn> ... anyhoo, to be discussed further at next week's meeting
21:39:20 <gordc> nealph: cool stuff.
21:39:51 <ildikov> eglynn: I think nprivalova will be happy with it too, as if I know right, the meeting time slots even worse for her than us
21:40:14 <eglynn> nealph: yeah, that'll make for an interesting session
21:40:31 <eglynn> ildikov: true dat, another hour further east I guess
21:41:03 <eglynn> ... actually another 2 hours east, UTC+4 right?
21:41:32 <ildikov> eglynn: I do not know the exact time zone, but something like this I think it's more 4 than 3
21:41:41 <gordc> not bad here in toronto :) ... that doodle survey looks cool. something to look at next week.
21:42:47 <llu-laptop> all Euro countries have DST?
21:43:00 <eglynn> llu-laptop: yeah, I think so
21:43:29 <eglynn> llu-laptop: tho' there was an EU suggestion to kill off DST if memory serves
21:43:43 <ildikov> gordc: Toronto is a nice place
21:44:07 <nealph> eglynn: heh, a discussion on that in the us crops up every few years.
21:44:08 <ildikov> eglynn: I remember this too
21:44:27 <eglynn> ... apparently it doesn't really save that much in energy anymore, now that lighting isn't the main focus of domestic power usage
21:44:31 <ildikov> eglynn: so it had to happen or we use the same DST drug maybe ;)
21:44:34 <eglynn> ... and the changeover is always a mess
21:45:05 <eglynn> ... well if we could all agree on a single changeover date, that would help
21:45:35 <eglynn> k, shall we wrap it at that folks?
21:45:49 <ildikov> eglynn: +1, +1
21:46:16 <gordc> sounds good.
21:46:21 <eglynn> cool, thanks for your time folks!
21:46:26 <eglynn> #endmeeting ceilometer