21:05:35 #startmeeting ceilometer 21:05:36 Meeting started Wed Apr 9 21:05:35 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglynn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:05:37 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:05:39 The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' 21:05:45 o/ 21:05:48 o/ 21:05:49 o/ 21:05:50 o/ 21:05:55 o/ 21:06:07 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ceilometer#Agenda 21:06:19 folks, I'll channel jd__ tonight 21:06:26 #topic Release status 21:06:54 so it looks like RC2 is done, anyone think we'll need to do another round? 21:07:14 haven't noticed anything major in bugs. 21:07:26 me neither 21:07:32 wasn't much in RC2 TBH 21:07:41 #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/icehouse-rc2 21:07:59 the translation fix was quite huge BTW 21:12:02 sorry folks, laptop died on me 21:12:13 :) was just going to say something. 21:12:19 eglynn: it's a sign ;) 21:12:28 ildikov: LOL :) 21:12:45 so we still on release status? 21:12:57 we can move on. 21:13:10 no one brought anything up. 21:13:11 just mention the release notes 21:13:18 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Icehouse#OpenStack_Metering_.28Ceilometer.29 21:13:29 I took an initial crack at these earlier 21:14:01 ... nadya & ildikov already subjected them to the eagle-eyed treatment 21:14:11 but could the more eyes the better 21:14:22 ... in case I left something out 21:14:35 ... particularly the known issues section 21:15:01 gordc: does the characterization of the multi-collector+postgres issue ring true to you? 21:15:30 eglynn: yep. did you want me to add a bit more detail 21:15:47 gordc: that would be great! 21:15:49 thanks! 21:16:05 ok. actually i should just put a bug for this and attach it... will start after meeting 21:16:25 gordc: thank you sir! 21:16:31 k, moving on ... 21:16:38 #topic TC gap analysis for ceilometer 21:17:02 so basically the TC is retrospectively going thru' all the graduated projects 21:17:19 seeing as the bar has been raised for incubating projects now seeking to graduate 21:17:37 only fair the the project like own get the same level of grilling I guess 21:18:13 here's the summary of where we are now ... 21:18:17 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ceilometer-integrated-requirements 21:18:32 and here's the TC discussion ... 21:18:42 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2014/tc.2014-04-08-20.02.log.html 21:19:24 tl;dr: action on either gordc or I to present a rough plan to the TC next week on how we're gonna address these gaps 21:19:57 (missing misson statement, light on docco, tempest coverage, sqla issues ... etc.) 21:20:15 inevitably that's gonna color the focus for ATL & Juno in general 21:20:28 I assume we need to identify the dependencies and then we can have a prioritized list of critical TODOs 21:20:42 ... so just a head's up if you're mulling subbmitting design summit proposals 21:21:15 ildikov: yep, we'll have to collectively scope out a plan early next week 21:21:35 ildikov: we'll be targetting the '#info Ceilometer gap' items from tc discussion. 21:22:13 eglynn: fair enough, let's focus on this now 21:22:32 yeap, there were definite issues raised by the TC, plus I guess we all have our own soap-boxes 21:23:07 gordc: sure, I just meant that we need to figure out the DBs and the gate issue and then we can have a chance to get the tempest covered, the doc is a separate item, etc 21:23:39 ildikov: yep. that sounds like a good plan. 21:23:57 ... it was a bit of a grilling last night, but overall I think the TC were fair enough in their appraisal 21:24:35 gordc: I can add an action items list to the etherpad and then it can be extended 21:24:52 ildikov: cool, thanks 21:25:13 ... shall we move on? 21:25:28 eglynn: works for me. 21:25:37 #topic Tempest integration 21:25:44 gordc, eglynn: I will try to order it as much as possible, and then we will be able to keep the focus and not getting lost among the several items 21:26:00 no nadya in the house? 21:26:27 I haven't seen her join 21:26:34 k, let's punt on this topic then 21:26:42 (since we'll need definite detail prior to the TC meeting next week) 21:26:43 but I assume this topic is a bit blocked now :( 21:26:47 yeap 21:26:57 #topic Release python-ceilometerclient? 21:27:05 no need 1.0.10 went out last week 21:27:12 #topic Open discussion 21:28:42 ... doesn't daylight savings time suck? ;) 21:28:50 hmm, it seems that DST has some impact on this meeting :) 21:29:01 ... esp. when meetings are shceduled in UTC 21:29:01 lol i thought it was a north american thing. 21:29:13 eglynn: LOL :) 21:29:22 exactly, should be scheduled with IANA Timezones! 21:29:33 maybe we should re-consider our alternating timeslot? 21:29:55 Do you want to land the oslo.messaging patch soon ? (I have to rebase it a bit) 21:29:59 ... IIRC it was set up that way to facilitate asalkeld attending every other week 21:30:21 eglynn: +1 on voting for new time (seems to be quite late for you guys) 21:30:22 sileht: the oslo-messaging now has everything you need? 21:30:46 sileht: in terms of those new features you added (timestamps, retries etc.) 21:30:53 eglynn, yes the first (big) patch can be landed (after I have rebase it) 21:31:03 sileht: excellent! 21:31:10 sileht: it was the one we agreed on merging it in early Juno? 21:31:11 eglynn, I have separate the retries patches to unblock the ceilometer patch 21:31:16 sileht: I'll take a retailed look tmrw 21:31:21 sileht: i'll take a look at it when you re-upload. 21:31:30 I need to rebase it before 21:31:39 I will submit it tomorow 21:31:41 sileht: (... I was holding off assuming that oslo-message still wasn't up to snuff) 21:31:43 sileht: you're so close to 50 patchesets though! 21:31:46 *messaging 21:32:07 sileht: if the eager two haven't gotten there on time, I can take a look also :) 21:32:39 gordc: ... re. meeting timeslot I guess we should wait for a full quorem to be present? 21:33:21 gordc: ... pulling off a coup d'état might be considered a tad rude ;) 21:34:09 eglynn: coup's are the new trend :) maybe bring it up next thurs and have vote next wed? we'll let people think about it. 21:34:12 eglynn: agree 21:34:25 eglynn: agreed 21:34:40 gordc, ildikov, llu-laptop: cool, sounds like a plan 21:35:40 k peeps, anything else on the hive mind? 21:35:52 ildikov: b.t.w. which time zone are u in, may I ask? 21:36:19 http://summit.openstack.org/ if anyone has ideas for design sessions. 21:37:07 llu-laptop: GMT+1, so it's 11:36pm not that bad, but 'good' is not like this 21:37:41 llu-laptop: DST here means UTC+2 to convert it to the meeting timezone 21:38:43 ... maybe we could run a doodle survey to see which slots would suit the majority of active contributors 21:38:57 eglynn: great 21:39:00 gordc: thanks for the reminder...have added a session on tripleO+ceilometer, as verifying integration is nearly 90% of my current focus. :\ 21:39:05 eglynn: good idea 21:39:11 ... anyhoo, to be discussed further at next week's meeting 21:39:20 nealph: cool stuff. 21:39:51 eglynn: I think nprivalova will be happy with it too, as if I know right, the meeting time slots even worse for her than us 21:40:14 nealph: yeah, that'll make for an interesting session 21:40:31 ildikov: true dat, another hour further east I guess 21:41:03 ... actually another 2 hours east, UTC+4 right? 21:41:32 eglynn: I do not know the exact time zone, but something like this I think it's more 4 than 3 21:41:41 not bad here in toronto :) ... that doodle survey looks cool. something to look at next week. 21:42:47 all Euro countries have DST? 21:43:00 llu-laptop: yeah, I think so 21:43:29 llu-laptop: tho' there was an EU suggestion to kill off DST if memory serves 21:43:43 gordc: Toronto is a nice place 21:44:07 eglynn: heh, a discussion on that in the us crops up every few years. 21:44:08 eglynn: I remember this too 21:44:27 ... apparently it doesn't really save that much in energy anymore, now that lighting isn't the main focus of domestic power usage 21:44:31 eglynn: so it had to happen or we use the same DST drug maybe ;) 21:44:34 ... and the changeover is always a mess 21:45:05 ... well if we could all agree on a single changeover date, that would help 21:45:35 k, shall we wrap it at that folks? 21:45:49 eglynn: +1, +1 21:46:16 sounds good. 21:46:21 cool, thanks for your time folks! 21:46:26 #endmeeting ceilometer