15:01:22 <gordc> #startmeeting ceilometer 15:01:22 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Jun 11 15:01:22 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gordc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:23 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:01:26 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' 15:01:30 <gordc> #chair jd__ 15:01:31 <openstack> Current chairs: gordc jd__ 15:01:34 <ildikov_> o/ 15:01:38 <sileht> o/ 15:01:42 <jd__> o/ 15:01:48 <prad> o/ 15:01:59 <cdent> o/ 15:02:02 <gordc> hi folks, just a headsup, i'm in some super firewall country so i may or may not drop during this meeting 15:02:18 <gordc> in case i do, jd__ lost the battle and will chair in my pace 15:02:25 <gordc> place* 15:02:27 <jd__> zog zog 15:03:05 <gordc> let's begin i guess 15:03:10 <gordc> #topic Short term solution vote and decision on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171826/ 15:03:17 <eglynn__> o/ 15:03:24 <jasonamyers> o/ 15:03:25 <gordc> rjaiswal: any update on this? we ran out of time last week 15:03:30 <fabiog> hi 15:03:37 <Rajkumar_> Hellow Everyone 15:04:06 <gordc> fabiog: Rajkumar_: hey! 15:04:33 <gordc> rjaiswal: ping 15:05:35 <gordc> let's move on 15:05:47 <gordc> #topic Midcycle Meetup 15:05:47 <rjaiswal> gordc: Yes 15:05:53 <gordc> ... darn 15:05:55 <jasonamyers> ha 15:05:58 <rjaiswal> the bp is ready 15:06:10 <rjaiswal> https://review.openstack.org/188613 15:06:13 <gordc> #topic Short term solution vote and decision on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171826/ 15:06:20 <rjaiswal> sorry for the delay, hangsups 15:06:33 * gordc completely understands 15:07:13 <gordc> rjaiswal: so is the only thing you need now just reviews? 15:07:28 <gordc> rjaiswal: i think there was originally concerns with the scope 15:07:34 <rjaiswal> proposal is to use the polling approach 15:08:10 <rjaiswal> gordc: yes, especially the polling agent emit notification part 15:08:28 <gordc> rjaiswal: kk, i think that's the one most of us were most comfortable with 15:08:29 <rjaiswal> especially now, since we have a bp to split the agents 15:08:51 <gordc> rjaiswal: yeah, that's not in scope of your bp (i still like the idea though 15:09:15 <rjaiswal> can we have a separate bp to refactor central agent emit noti. 15:09:43 <rjaiswal> and i think there is a bp to refactor the api to do the same 15:09:48 <cdent> yes and yes 15:09:58 <gordc> rjaiswal: yeah, we were discussing it in fabiog/cdents refactor collection agents specs... 15:10:09 <rjaiswal> gordc, yes, saw that 15:10:17 <cdent> it's something that we can leave out of the discussion of the pipeline dynamic reconfig 15:10:21 <gordc> rjaiswal: we should probably track it (polling agent/pipeline refactoring) in it's own 15:10:28 <cdent> however, it kind of makes me wonder which is more important to do 15:10:57 <rjaiswal> think it should be done with the split spec at least or before that 15:11:34 <gordc> cdent: true. if we rip out pipeline from polling agent, a lot of the work rjaiswal will do may be wasted. 15:12:21 <rjaiswal> gordc: polling agent still need pipeline to determine which meters are supported? 15:12:50 <cdent> needs a config file, not quite the same thing 15:13:11 <gordc> rjaiswal: yeah... it'd be half a pipeline... or just the source part and not the sink 15:13:12 <cdent> (e.g. you don't need to worry about draining transformation pipelines when the reload happens) 15:13:45 <rjaiswal> yes, but still would want to wait for pollsters to complete before starting new ones 15:14:24 * cdent nods 15:14:39 <gordc> yeah, i think we'd still need some part of pipeline to control poll intervals 15:15:07 <gordc> i guess it's something we can look at later... possibly in late L-2 cycle 15:15:35 <rjaiswal> so i think that begs the question, there will still be a dependency of the polling agent on the pipeline 15:15:41 <gordc> rjaiswal:for now i'm inclined to prioritise the dynamic pipeline work since we have a spec and we've talked about it for a while 15:16:18 <rjaiswal> gordc: i agree 15:16:34 <gordc> rjaiswal: i think you can work on your item as if the polling agent refactor stuff doesn't exist. we need to discuss it still and we don't necessarily have resources 15:16:36 <cdent> rjaiswal: when you say pipeline do you mean the code which is a pipeline, or the pipeline.yaml? 15:17:05 <rjaiswal> cdent: i meant the yaml 15:17:39 <rjaiswal> cdent: as in its still needed to configure the pollsters with the intervals 15:18:01 <cdent> got ya, just wanted to clear 15:18:41 <gordc> cdent: cool cool. did you want to write a spec? i can write one but it'll be a week or two. 15:18:42 <rjaiswal> gordc, cdent: sure, will start working on it, also will be good to have the spec approved 15:18:58 <gordc> rjaiswal: kk. we'll get eyes on that spec 15:19:13 <gordc> i think jd__ has comments already 15:19:26 <gordc> rjaiswal: anything else? 15:19:48 <rjaiswal> i guess that its for me.. 15:19:51 <cdent> gordc: spec for killing pipeline (the code not the yaml) in pollsters you mean? sure 15:19:59 <gordc> rjaiswal: cool cool 15:20:04 <gordc> cdent: yeah 15:20:07 <rjaiswal> thanks gordc, cdent 15:20:17 <gordc> next topic 15:20:22 <gordc> #topic Midcycle Meetup 15:20:24 <cdent> #action cdent write a remove pipeline from pollsters spec 15:20:44 <cdent> (did I do it right?) 15:20:59 <gordc> jasonamyers: any updates? i think we were looking for possible dates and locations so we can gauge interest 15:21:17 <gordc> cdent: i don't understand irc meeting actions 15:21:20 <gordc> #action 15:21:25 <gordc> no help 15:21:46 <jasonamyers> nothing yet we are talk with our office in IE 15:22:05 <jasonamyers> but I don't have any answers. 15:22:12 <gordc> IE = ireland? 15:22:22 <jasonamyers> yes sorry 15:22:49 <gordc> kk 15:23:05 <gordc> i guess we'd target something in the july/august time frame. 15:23:36 <jasonamyers> nod 15:23:41 <gordc> we can do a doodle on that to see if we even need to bother looking for a place. 15:23:47 <ildikov_> I guess it would be better to aim for July 15:24:01 <ildikov_> gordc: +1 15:25:21 <jasonamyers> good idea 15:25:34 <gordc> can someone create a doodle of each week in july? i feel like i'm going to get firewalled if i try 15:25:46 <gordc> and maybe first week of august 15:26:17 <gordc> so mid july to mid august? (realistically we'll never get something planned by early july 15:26:35 <ildikov_> feature freeze is first week of September 15:27:11 <ildikov_> so with the first week of August I think we should target some hackfest like mid-cycle 15:27:14 <fabiog> gordc: is going to be held in Europe only, or it could also be in Cal? 15:27:44 <cdent> Not that it should live or die on me, but if it is outside europe the changes of me going are pretty much zero. 15:28:15 <gordc> cdent: i feel like that's the same for everyone (except ppl in north america) 15:28:37 <fabiog> gordc: cdent just asking ... 15:28:43 <cdent> s/changes/chances/ 15:28:53 <gordc> fabiog: i'm probably leaning more to Europe as that's where most of contributors are coming from still. 15:28:56 <cdent> yeah, I know fabiog, and I was just reporting 15:29:33 <gordc> fabiog: but i guess we can figure out that when we get a rough view of who would even attend. 15:30:03 <gordc> #action gordc will create doodle... or will delegate when he gets firewalled 15:30:20 <gordc> yeah that doesn't do anything... just looks like i'm talking to myself 15:30:33 <fabiog> gordc: sure. I think there is the possibility for Cisco to held something in Berlin. But I need to ask my boss first 15:30:33 <gordc> anything else on midcycle? 15:30:36 <jasonamyers> http://doodle.com/64b5x9q4kkmxx4eq 15:30:40 <cdent> maybe it logs pretty gordc 15:31:04 <gordc> jasonamyers: sweet! saved me the hassle 15:31:32 <gordc> fabiog: berlin would be awesome (fond memories) 15:32:23 <gordc> everyone vote up top asap... we'll decide whether we can do a meetup next week based on results. 15:32:41 * gordc is trying to get this voting asap so we can properly plan if it does happen 15:33:07 <cdent> unfortunately I can say when I can attend but not if I'll have funding to go 15:33:23 <cdent> so I feel a bit lame 15:34:00 <ildikov_> gordc: will you announce it on the mailing list too? 15:34:18 <gordc> ildikov_: sure. will do that 15:34:27 <ildikov_> gordc: ok, cool, tnx 15:35:05 <gordc> cool cool. next topic. 15:35:23 <gordc> #topic recurring: Gnocchi status 15:35:47 <gordc> jd__: sileht: cdent: life stories? 15:36:07 <cdent> jd__ has made nice progress on doing some cool asynch stuff for separating writes from aggregation 15:36:13 <cdent> which is a good thing™ 15:36:53 <cdent> EOF 15:37:43 <gordc> cdent: i... err... i got nothing to inquire about. 15:37:50 <cdent> next topic! 15:37:56 <gordc> next! 15:38:11 <gordc> #topic Open discussion 15:38:34 <gordc> i skipped ceilometerclient release.... i saw/remember nothing important 15:39:07 <prad> some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178399/ would be helpful .. so far i think only gordc reviewed it 15:39:44 <cdent> I remain confused about who is on the hook to do the collection agent split work. I'm agnostic on who does, I just want the lack of clarity cleared up. 15:39:51 <gordc> yeah, i guess it'd be good to get eyes on all the specs so we can get work done on them asap 15:40:11 <gordc> cdent: i think fabiog said you can work on it if you like 15:40:46 <gordc> cdent: basically it's on you... unless you say otherwise. 15:40:47 <fabiog> cdent: yes. let's push the spec in and then I don't mind who start working on it 15:40:52 <rjaiswal> cdent: let me know if i can help with the remving pipeline from pollster spec 15:41:35 <fabiog> cdent: I'll add you as co-author to the spec 15:41:37 <cdent> prad: I've read that spec several times but don't have anything yet to add beyond what gordc has already been saying so I've been waiting for that to settle out before making comments or voting 15:42:29 <cdent> fabiog: that's cool, thanks, but I'm not super concerned about authorship, again just wanting clarity on what I need to be responsible for over the next few weeks. I'm happy (and want) to do the work once we decide what it is, so I'll own that part. 15:44:20 * gordc has nothing to add... is waiting to go to bed. 15:45:11 <jd__> sorry got side tracked 15:45:37 <gordc> jd__: no worries. something to add? 15:46:40 <jd__> just that I could ask to host the midcycle in Paris if needed 15:46:52 <jd__> or Montreal? 15:47:22 <gordc> jd__: my rent in mtl expires in 3 weeks. 15:47:32 <jd__> interesting :D 15:47:42 <gordc> jd__:i'll add those locations to the email 15:48:28 <gordc> i guess that's it? i'll close this off in 30 seconds 15:49:33 <gordc> we done 15:49:37 <gordc> see you later 15:49:39 <gordc> #endmeeting