15:00:45 #startmeeting ceilometer 15:00:45 Meeting started Thu Sep 17 15:00:45 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gordc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:47 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:49 The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' 15:00:57 o/ 15:01:04 * gordc hopes for quick meeting 15:01:12 o/ 15:01:30 o/ 15:01:37 o/ 15:01:46 o/ 15:01:59 o/ 15:02:35 o/ 15:02:43 cool lets' get started 15:03:00 #topic liberty-rc1 status 15:03:00 o/ 15:03:19 we're currently targetting the beginning of next week for initial rc1 tags 15:03:29 o/ 15:03:35 this is list of items we're currently aiming for: https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/liberty-rc1 15:03:48 for reviewers, if you can focus on these items that'd be great 15:04:21 if there are any additional items that need to be targeted for rc1 and aren't please let one of the cores know 15:04:34 so we don't tag without your patch. 15:04:44 o/ 15:04:46 are there any items of concern so far in testing? 15:05:09 i haven't noticed any huge blockers... some performance tweaks required. 15:05:36 i should mention cdent is not here today so he won't fill white space and i'd rather not talk to myself. 15:06:27 I'm reading you gordc 15:06:29 gordc: you are not alone! 15:06:37 :) 15:06:39 lol alright. 15:06:54 i'm assuming no blockers currently? 15:07:22 I havent seen anything specific yet 15:07:30 gordc: no blockers that i would know of and noticed we need focus on reviews listed on Launchpad :) 15:07:50 yeah... so please raise asap if anything comes up. early next week is our first deadline. 15:07:51 gordc: we just try to support you in having a short meeting ;) 15:07:55 ildikov: :) 15:08:01 ok. next topic then. 15:08:31 #topic recurring: Gnocchi status 15:08:39 anything to update? jd__ ? 15:09:08 I just released 1.2.0 15:09:11 python-gnocchiclient lives in openstack namespace since yesterday 15:09:25 so high five to everyone 15:09:26 jd__, sileht: nice! 15:09:46 \o/ :) 15:10:08 sileht: is there code in ceilometer that we can pull out? or is gnocchiclient not stable enough? 15:10:25 gordc, this is a very light gnocchi client 15:10:37 gordc, it can only CRUB archivepolicy and resources 15:10:43 gordc, not yet metrics and measurements 15:10:51 CRUB/CRUD 15:10:55 but that's on roadmap yeah 15:10:58 sileht: ok. so we'll aim for M* to refactor gnocchi dispatcher. 15:11:04 jd__, of course 15:11:10 gordc, yes 15:11:18 sounds good folks! 15:12:03 #topic ceilometer mentoring 15:12:24 this is just an fyi but to follow up on ildikov's mention in previous meeting about mentoring 15:12:48 you can sign up to mentor starting next week (sept22 - oct27) 15:12:53 more details can be found here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074399.html 15:13:16 so if you'd like to have an extra resource to help with an idea you have, feel free to apply. 15:14:00 gordc: right, thanks for bringing it up! 15:14:01 maybe mention it if you think one of the design session proposals are a easy in for a new dev 15:14:08 we could have someone on gnocchiclient maybe 15:15:12 jd__: yes that's possible. i think the resource will select based on interest so you'll need to sell client work pretty hard. 15:15:39 or I don't know what direction we will move regarding Gnocchi-Ceilo integration, etc. but that can be an area too maybe 15:16:38 * jd__ waits to read APIv3 from ildikov 15:16:40 ildikov: right... just wanted to get people thinking about the idea. we have a few weeks but if you have an idea now, applications start next week 15:17:09 ildikov: if you have a apiv3 i'm interested too. :) 15:17:10 jd__: wasn't taht the agreement that it will mostly be Gnocchi's API? :) 15:17:23 ildikov: s/mostly// :) 15:18:03 gordc: I might have some idea but not sure I'll have the time to mentor TBH 15:18:04 jd__: ok, then I guess we just need to clean up from Ceiilo that we don't need anymore, right? ;) 15:18:16 jd__: ildikov: it's probably something worth discussing. how we envision the apis existing. metrics, events, alarms. 15:18:17 ildikov: what do you think I'm doing! ;) 15:18:32 jd__: yes, i believe it requires some commitment. 15:18:34 jd__: ;) 15:18:59 i think worse case you can propose an idea and see if another dev has time to mentor 15:19:00 gordc: been there 15:19:01 yeap, if definitely needs, this is why I'm in trouble and did not volunteer :( 15:19:26 I think the worst thing is that it takes more time than to it takes to do the job 15:19:32 and that each time we lost the mentee 15:19:39 events may be interesting field 15:20:07 jd__: i see... yeah maybe we need to minimise scope of topic. 15:20:33 who is mentee usually? student? 15:20:34 gordc: I don't think that solves the issues I raised, but I don't know either what the solution might be! 15:20:37 just my feedback 15:20:38 but yeah not a must have to mentor. just making sure everyone is aware of opporutunity 15:20:47 nadya: not necessarily 15:20:58 nadya: can be someone looking to start doing programming stuff 15:21:34 jd__: they may don't know python? 15:22:05 nadya: possibly. i think you need to mention degree of experience required when proposing ideas. 15:22:08 nadya: they are supposed to be familiar a bit with Python and OpenStack (they start on their own a bit before to prove they can do some stuff) 15:22:24 ok, I see 15:22:34 nadya: I think there should be some minimum requirements, but I would need to check the wiki page again to be sure 15:23:22 cool cool. let's open it up for general discussion. 15:23:27 #topic open discussion 15:23:47 Is there any presentation in Tokyo summit about ceilometer's best practise? 15:24:02 like the one gordc did in Vancouver 15:24:17 llu-laptop: i don't think any ceilometer talks were chosen. 15:24:25 :( 15:24:28 so some of us would like to poll operators about Ceilometer and how they use it 15:24:35 seems like the criteria was more ops/product driven 15:24:46 rather than doing that at the summit, we would like to have that done as a broader scope 15:24:57 (you know, Internet, mailing list etc) 15:24:58 llu-laptop: good question! Also, I'm interested about best practices for Mongo tuning... 15:25:01 how to do the polling thing? 15:25:02 there was also a lot less rooms to do do conference talks than in previous summit 15:25:23 nijaba: ^ that as well. 15:25:24 so far pradk put a questionnaire https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ceilometer-operator-questions 15:25:36 can we propose topics for the ops sessions? 15:25:49 llu-laptop: I was proposing to setup a survey either in gdoc or survey monkey and open it as wide as possible 15:25:52 just a set of questions we envision sending to operators with an online survey, I guess jasonamyers would be interested :) 15:25:55 precisely where i was getting at , thanks jd__ for the link 15:26:07 I am jd__ 15:26:14 pradk: i haven't heard if they will be doing an ops-project session again like vancouver 15:26:19 so feel free to add more questions 15:26:30 jd__: are you going to post to operators list> 15:26:31 ?* 15:26:43 gordc: me or someone that has better connection (hint jasonamyers) 15:26:50 gordc, hmm ok, i guess we can have an ops feedback session if we have an extra slot? 15:26:54 I don't have better connections 15:26:59 :D 15:27:07 it's better to come from a project leader 15:27:10 pradk: that sounds like an idea. 15:27:19 and I'll make sure it gets distributed internally and to partners 15:27:23 cool 15:27:32 gordc: you're up to that? 15:27:36 kk, i can post. we might want to refine some the questions 15:27:41 definitely 15:27:59 jd__: do you have a pool of money to entice people to answer 15:28:00 gordc: also we can probably leverage some online tools (surveymonk or google forms or something like that) 15:28:10 gordc: we're offering our time! that's money 15:28:13 lol 15:28:44 so i'm still waiting on the openstack survey where we submitted the original ceilometer question 15:28:53 gordc, will add to etherpad, we can include an ops feedback session if we have time 15:28:58 i believe we should have responses soon (i need to recheck email) 15:29:10 jd__: oh. actually i have a great place to ask these questions 15:29:16 gordc: ok, maybe add something to this meeting agenda to keep track of that? 15:29:18 jasonamyers: what is the last day to become mid-cycle participant? :) 15:29:27 shrug? 15:29:43 It would be helpful to know Oct ish 15:29:44 the product WG just ask this exact question to me (if there was any questions we wanted to ask users) 15:29:57 if we are going to hvae one 15:30:14 after we know we are going to meet, there is not limit 15:30:19 gordc: cool 15:30:20 i'm sure we can forward this list to Product WG so they can distribute to whoever is part of it. (hopefully it goes beyond managers) 15:30:35 gordc: that + operators would be good indeed 15:30:37 that's my real problem is needing to get budget stuff established and dates for spending set nadya 15:32:04 nadya: there are two times.. one in nov/dec, one in jan 15:33:01 gordc: visit Dublin 2 times? I would stay there through nov-jan then 15:33:07 haha 15:33:22 nadya: lol no no just different options 15:33:33 :) 15:33:45 only one slot would be chosen... and probably 2-3 days within the timerange 15:33:47 basically I'm open anytime from Nov 30-Jan 30 15:34:02 and any 3 days in there for meetings and we can have workspace for 5 if needed 15:34:53 5 days to make up for midcycles missed.lol 15:34:57 haha 15:35:03 I'm going to work from the office there for a week 15:35:18 so if others need coworking space for the other 2 days I'm happy to host them :P 15:35:33 jasonamyers: nice. 15:35:49 so any other topics? 15:36:07 #action review list of questions for operators and send to ops list and product wg 15:36:30 #action fill out availability for midcycle, put blank if you aren't coming 15:36:57 final countdown. 15:37:21 If we don't get enough we should still do a virtual one 15:37:32 +1 15:37:36 jasonamyers: + 15:37:45 but I will be sad I didn't get to go to dublin 15:37:49 :P 15:37:51 gordc: I would still advocate to setup a survey tool instead of just sending the question 15:37:55 and would be happy to do so 15:38:16 nijaba: agree. any preference on survey tool? 15:38:37 gordc: either survey monkey of gdoc 15:39:14 nijaba: ack. i'll just verify how accessible either one is and choose based on that. 15:39:50 shall we close off? any additional items? 15:40:07 b.t.w, just heard that US has the most individual foundation members 15:40:11 gordc: let me know when you think the list of q is final, and I'll gladly set it up 15:40:13 more than 30% 15:40:36 India is the second, China is the 3rd 15:40:38 nijaba: sure thing. i'll sync with jd__ in case you're not in irc. 15:41:05 * jd__ nods 15:41:13 llu-laptop: canada?lol 15:41:27 we probably got lumped with usa 15:41:34 can't remember the actual number. 15:42:23 only remember seeing former USSR in that list 15:43:07 llu-laptop: cool stuff. 15:43:30 totally, more than 150 countries 15:44:20 llu-laptop: nice. i'm going to close off this meeting. will ping you for link in openstack-ceilometer 15:44:26 thanks for attending folks 15:44:31 #endmeeting