17:01:53 <thedac> #startmeeting charms 17:01:54 <openstack> Meeting started Mon May 15 17:01:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thedac. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:55 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:01:57 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'charms' 17:02:16 <thedac> #topic 17:02:22 <thedac> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 17:02:41 <thedac> Not sure if Dmitrii-Sh is here but he had: " 17:02:43 <thedac> Dmitrii-Sh track the network-binding not being able to be changed after deploy/add-unit." 17:02:56 <thedac> Anyone with an update for that? 17:03:08 <coreycb> o/ 17:03:35 <thedac> ok, moving on 17:03:38 <thedac> #topic State of Development for next Charm Release 17:03:50 <thedac> tinwood: any update on next Ubuntu release will be an 'a' (coming after z) -- still landing the alpha comparison changes to the charms. 17:03:58 <thedac> How many are left? 17:04:07 <tinwood> thedac, so ... 17:04:15 <tinwood> all of the non-reactive charms are done. 17:04:30 <tinwood> ... and charms.openstack is done. 17:04:37 <jamespage> o/ 17:04:40 <tinwood> ... so in theory, all of the reactive charms are done too! 17:04:46 <jamespage> sorry I'm late 17:04:47 <thedac> So we just need rebuilds of the reactive charms? 17:04:51 <thedac> hey, jamespage 17:05:17 <tinwood> thedac, yup. I've checked them all, and they don't do anything weird, so they should be okay. 17:05:33 <tinwood> I figured they would be picked up with any new changes./ 17:05:39 <thedac> Great so we can remove that one from the list 17:05:45 <thedac> I have 3 remaining zesty amulet changes to go that have unique snoflake issues: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:zesty-ocata+is:open 17:05:51 <wolsen> o/ 17:06:02 <thedac> Hi wolsen 17:06:11 <wolsen> hi thedac, apologies for the tardiness 17:06:15 <thedac> wolsen: want to give us an update on the DNS progress? 17:06:15 <tinwood> the 'a' is 'artful' AFAIK 17:06:23 <jamespage> it is 17:07:19 <wolsen> thedac: the code has been tested and there are several reviews ready for input - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:charms-internal-dns 17:07:33 <thedac> great, thank you 17:07:36 <wolsen> todo are still mojo specs and amulet tests 17:08:05 <thedac> The other point for state of development is our focus on getting snap deployed openstack into the charms 17:08:19 <thedac> Any other updates for State of development? 17:08:45 <jamespage> prob worth updating on specs 17:09:08 <jamespage> we don't currently have anyone working on the openstack loadbalancer implementation 17:09:26 <wolsen> boy that sure would be a great feature to have as well 17:09:50 <jamespage> wolsen: yeah - kinda the problem here - its all high, higher, highest :-) 17:09:57 <wolsen> jamespage: I'm aware :) 17:10:01 <jamespage> lol 17:10:18 <tinwood> (got to give the cat a tablet - back in 2 mins) 17:10:23 <thedac> ok moving onto bugs 17:10:26 <thedac> #topic High Priority Bugs 17:10:34 <thedac> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-charms/+bugs 17:10:42 <thedac> Any particular bugs to highlight? 17:11:13 <wolsen> I'm ill prepared to list the specific ones, but I know there's a couple that are key for some stable backports 17:11:58 * tinwood is back 17:12:21 <thedac> jamespages has prepeared a tag for backports http://tinyurl.com/charm-stable-backports 17:12:27 <thedac> jamespage even 17:12:48 <thedac> wolsen: pleas add any bugs you are aware of with that tag 17:12:53 <wolsen> yes, will visit bugs and apply them appropriately 17:13:07 <jamespage> yes - as we're going to release a little less frequently, please tag anything targetted for stable-backport with the tag of the same name 17:13:33 <thedac> Moving on 17:13:40 <thedac> #topic OpenStack Events 17:13:46 <thedac> Any events on the horizon? 17:14:15 <tinwood> Is there going to be a PTG? 17:14:41 <thedac> Yes, in September if I am not mistaken 17:15:26 <thedac> no info on the web page that I can find 17:15:36 <thedac> Other events? 17:15:48 <thedac> ... 17:15:57 <thedac> Ok moving on 17:15:59 <thedac> #topic Open Discussion 17:16:07 <thedac> The floor is open 17:16:21 <tinwood> moving mocks: may I? 17:16:44 <thedac> +1 to optimizing mocks 17:16:48 <wolsen> +1 17:16:55 <tinwood> So, I'd like to move mocks from reactive charm's unit_tests/__init__.py to charms.reactive to centralise them 17:17:38 <wolsen> so the mock is moved away from the actual test? 17:17:40 <tinwood> Which means 'testy code' in the library (but there's already test code in the published library) 17:18:03 <tinwood> wolsen, you'd still have to import them, (probably in the __init__.py) 17:18:23 <tinwood> ... but updates to them could be central for code in charms.openstack that rely on charmhelpers. 17:18:41 <tinwood> And the example is ch.c.o.u.OPENSTACK_RELEASES 17:19:03 <tinwood> which is going to break every reactive charm's unit tests (I've just discovered) that relies on charms.openstack 17:19:15 * tinwood is sorry 17:19:17 <thedac> :) 17:19:20 <wolsen> yeah, I see where the advantages are in doing that 17:19:43 <wolsen> tinwood: you can make it up to all of us with videos of your cat playing on the ipad 17:19:55 <tinwood> :) 17:20:08 <tinwood> I'll raise a bug on the reactive charms I know about, and then get them fixed. 17:20:17 <thedac> Any other open discussion items? non-cat related ;) 17:20:19 <tinwood> assuming we are okay with it. 17:21:04 <wolsen> so question on the designate charm 17:21:12 <wolsen> (maybe this is wrong forum) 17:21:20 <wolsen> but was it intention to not relate to neutron-api? 17:21:51 <thedac> Good question. gnuoy is not here to answer. 17:21:53 <wolsen> I can take over to #openstack-charms if prepared 17:21:58 <wolsen> err if preferred* 17:22:09 <thedac> Yeah, let's have that discussion there 17:22:12 <wolsen> ok 17:22:26 <thedac> Last call for open discussion items? 17:22:41 <tinwood> Not from me 17:22:45 <wolsen> none here 17:22:50 <thedac> ok 17:22:53 <thedac> #topic Next Chair 17:23:06 <thedac> Etherpad says jamespage is up next 17:23:40 <thedac> #endmeeting