17:01:53 #startmeeting charms 17:01:54 Meeting started Mon May 15 17:01:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thedac. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:55 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:01:57 The meeting name has been set to 'charms' 17:02:16 #topic 17:02:22 #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 17:02:41 Not sure if Dmitrii-Sh is here but he had: " 17:02:43 Dmitrii-Sh track the network-binding not being able to be changed after deploy/add-unit." 17:02:56 Anyone with an update for that? 17:03:08 o/ 17:03:35 ok, moving on 17:03:38 #topic State of Development for next Charm Release 17:03:50 tinwood: any update on next Ubuntu release will be an 'a' (coming after z) -- still landing the alpha comparison changes to the charms. 17:03:58 How many are left? 17:04:07 thedac, so ... 17:04:15 all of the non-reactive charms are done. 17:04:30 ... and charms.openstack is done. 17:04:37 o/ 17:04:40 ... so in theory, all of the reactive charms are done too! 17:04:46 sorry I'm late 17:04:47 So we just need rebuilds of the reactive charms? 17:04:51 hey, jamespage 17:05:17 thedac, yup. I've checked them all, and they don't do anything weird, so they should be okay. 17:05:33 I figured they would be picked up with any new changes./ 17:05:39 Great so we can remove that one from the list 17:05:45 I have 3 remaining zesty amulet changes to go that have unique snoflake issues: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:zesty-ocata+is:open 17:05:51 o/ 17:06:02 Hi wolsen 17:06:11 hi thedac, apologies for the tardiness 17:06:15 wolsen: want to give us an update on the DNS progress? 17:06:15 the 'a' is 'artful' AFAIK 17:06:23 it is 17:07:19 thedac: the code has been tested and there are several reviews ready for input - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:charms-internal-dns 17:07:33 great, thank you 17:07:36 todo are still mojo specs and amulet tests 17:08:05 The other point for state of development is our focus on getting snap deployed openstack into the charms 17:08:19 Any other updates for State of development? 17:08:45 prob worth updating on specs 17:09:08 we don't currently have anyone working on the openstack loadbalancer implementation 17:09:26 boy that sure would be a great feature to have as well 17:09:50 wolsen: yeah - kinda the problem here - its all high, higher, highest :-) 17:09:57 jamespage: I'm aware :) 17:10:01 lol 17:10:18 (got to give the cat a tablet - back in 2 mins) 17:10:23 ok moving onto bugs 17:10:26 #topic High Priority Bugs 17:10:34 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-charms/+bugs 17:10:42 Any particular bugs to highlight? 17:11:13 I'm ill prepared to list the specific ones, but I know there's a couple that are key for some stable backports 17:11:58 * tinwood is back 17:12:21 jamespages has prepeared a tag for backports http://tinyurl.com/charm-stable-backports 17:12:27 jamespage even 17:12:48 wolsen: pleas add any bugs you are aware of with that tag 17:12:53 yes, will visit bugs and apply them appropriately 17:13:07 yes - as we're going to release a little less frequently, please tag anything targetted for stable-backport with the tag of the same name 17:13:33 Moving on 17:13:40 #topic OpenStack Events 17:13:46 Any events on the horizon? 17:14:15 Is there going to be a PTG? 17:14:41 Yes, in September if I am not mistaken 17:15:26 no info on the web page that I can find 17:15:36 Other events? 17:15:48 ... 17:15:57 Ok moving on 17:15:59 #topic Open Discussion 17:16:07 The floor is open 17:16:21 moving mocks: may I? 17:16:44 +1 to optimizing mocks 17:16:48 +1 17:16:55 So, I'd like to move mocks from reactive charm's unit_tests/__init__.py to charms.reactive to centralise them 17:17:38 so the mock is moved away from the actual test? 17:17:40 Which means 'testy code' in the library (but there's already test code in the published library) 17:18:03 wolsen, you'd still have to import them, (probably in the __init__.py) 17:18:23 ... but updates to them could be central for code in charms.openstack that rely on charmhelpers. 17:18:41 And the example is ch.c.o.u.OPENSTACK_RELEASES 17:19:03 which is going to break every reactive charm's unit tests (I've just discovered) that relies on charms.openstack 17:19:15 * tinwood is sorry 17:19:17 :) 17:19:20 yeah, I see where the advantages are in doing that 17:19:43 tinwood: you can make it up to all of us with videos of your cat playing on the ipad 17:19:55 :) 17:20:08 I'll raise a bug on the reactive charms I know about, and then get them fixed. 17:20:17 Any other open discussion items? non-cat related ;) 17:20:19 assuming we are okay with it. 17:21:04 so question on the designate charm 17:21:12 (maybe this is wrong forum) 17:21:20 but was it intention to not relate to neutron-api? 17:21:51 Good question. gnuoy is not here to answer. 17:21:53 I can take over to #openstack-charms if prepared 17:21:58 err if preferred* 17:22:09 Yeah, let's have that discussion there 17:22:12 ok 17:22:26 Last call for open discussion items? 17:22:41 Not from me 17:22:45 none here 17:22:50 ok 17:22:53 #topic Next Chair 17:23:06 Etherpad says jamespage is up next 17:23:40 #endmeeting