16:00:39 #startmeeting cinder 16:00:40 Meeting started Wed Sep 26 16:00:39 2012 UTC. The chair is jgriffith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:41 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:42 The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' 16:00:54 o/ 16:00:59 * bswartz is here 16:01:05 thingee: hey hey! He's alive! 16:01:11 bswartz: Yo! 16:01:24 good afternoon/morning 16:01:43 vincent_hou: around? 16:01:44 yeah management change, lol ;) 16:01:57 thingee: Your end or mine :) 16:02:27 hi all 16:02:31 let's get started and folks can jump in 16:02:33 winston-d: Hello! 16:02:42 #topic rc-3 16:02:47 jgriffith, :) 16:02:54 we have a rc-3? 16:03:05 RC-3 was cut by magic elves last night 16:03:11 hi everyone. 16:03:12 magic elves == ttx 16:03:34 So we're kinda locked down at this point barring anything truly critical 16:03:45 bswartz: I got you bug fix in Nova and Cinder 16:03:50 thanks 16:04:00 why did it appear to go through the acceptance process twice? 16:04:12 I got about 25 mails from jenkins/gerrit 16:04:20 bswartz: It was a bit painful 16:04:41 jgriffith: sorry about that 16:04:42 bswartz: had to go through nova, cinder, nova-proposed and cinder-proposed 16:05:07 bswartz: nahh, that's just the process. Nothing to do with your specific change 16:05:28 Ok.. so we have RC3, now we need release notes to go with it! 16:05:37 I could really use help on this 16:05:57 Particularly any known issue you have get them up on the wiki 16:06:05 where do release notes go? 16:06:17 http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Folsom 16:06:36 Or we can set up an etherpad and I'll copy everything over later 16:06:56 I don't see a "Edit" button on this wiki 16:06:58 Just depends if folks are going to actually add things or not, else I'll just plug away at the wiki 16:07:06 bswartz: Ahhh 16:07:09 etherpad it is 16:07:29 Could be permission thing to edit 16:07:31 +1 for etherpad 16:07:44 wait I see a login button 16:07:49 Ok.. etherpad: http://etherpad.openstack.org/cinder-folsom 16:08:02 ehterpad may be a better way to go anyway for a number of reasons 16:08:16 winston-d: bswartz Let's go with that 16:08:31 okay after logging in it appears I can edit 16:08:43 #info contribute to release notes using etherpad http://etherpad.openstack.org/cinder-folsom 16:08:48 -1 for etherpad 16:08:53 arg 16:08:54 bswartz: booo! 16:08:55 ok 16:09:10 I'll do the etherpad 16:09:12 bswartz: If you want to add to wiki feel free... just let me know what you added 16:09:33 TBH I don't care what people use as long as they help out ;) 16:09:53 Don't forget we still need DOCS!!!!!! 16:10:17 I'm hoping to see some things coming in over the next few days :) 16:10:28 I'll hold my breath and see who wants me to live or die 16:10:50 any questions on RC3 and next steps? 16:11:00 I'll be honest I took a look at github/openstack-manuals and I wasn't able to figure out where the docs go 16:11:12 bswartz: Yeah, understood... 16:11:27 bswartz: I thought I gave a link to the third party drivers section? 16:12:04 jgriffith: in that case I must have failed to notice it 16:12:19 send it again and I'll bookmark 16:12:35 bswartz: No worries... lemme grab it 16:13:08 * jgriffith scratches head.... 16:13:18 Looks like the layout has changed 16:13:35 It's docs.openstack.org that I'm referencing 16:14:19 is that website not generated from https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals ? 16:14:40 bswartz: yes it is 16:15:07 We will need to add some sections 16:15:16 Her'es my proposal... 16:15:27 If you have time/ability to create some docs 16:15:39 Just do them in etherpad, google-docs or whatever you want and forward them to me 16:15:50 I'll pull them together when I get the layout stuff all figured out 16:15:57 or get help from docs team to make it work 16:16:09 Or if you want to be pro-active ping anne and get the skinny 16:16:13 * bswartz wonders if annegentle is here 16:16:23 annegentle: ping 16:16:50 Ok... we'll see if she pops in later and come back to this 16:17:11 jgriffith: my colleague is a core member of the doc team. 16:17:17 The main things I'd like to see are some write ups on the drivers of course 16:17:18 all i have time for is some minimal stuff for the netapp and NFS drivers, and I plan to put in links back to NetApp's own documentation 16:17:35 bswartz: That's fine and would be more than helpful 16:17:44 jgriffith: i can turn to her for help. 16:17:53 vincent_hou: That would be great 16:18:13 In the meantime if people just want to write up the info and send it my way that would be great 16:18:45 I'd like to move on to the next topic... I have two things I want to cover 16:18:50 I would rather see what the current existing docs look like so I can copy the style 16:19:07 One is the dd and tempest tests, the other is the bug vincent_hou filed last night 16:19:17 bswartz: So you can see that from docs.openstack.org 16:19:23 ok 16:19:27 Guys, I failed to create the volume with the latest devstack installation. 16:19:52 #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1056570 16:19:53 Launchpad bug 1056570 in cinder "Unable to create the volume" [Undecided,New] 16:20:01 vincent_hou: This seems odd 16:20:08 vincent_hou: There are a number of things here... 16:20:20 1. there appear to be no volume-groups created 16:20:28 2. pkgs seem to be missing from the install 16:21:03 this is using the default driver? 16:21:12 yes 16:21:29 vincent_hou: do you have access to the machine right now? 16:22:11 jgriffith: i can setup. 16:22:25 vincent_hou: we can work together after the meeting 16:22:37 vincent_hou: So was this a fresh install on a VM? 16:22:57 vincent_hou: I'm confused as the jenkins/gate tests seem to work 16:22:58 jgriffith: on a physical machine. 16:23:07 vincent_hou: And I've been running the heck out of devstack the past two days 16:23:15 vincent_hou: Ahhh 16:23:25 vincent_hou: I'm wondering if something is borked up on your system 16:23:53 vincent_hou: if 'sudo vgs' doesn't work there's something hosed at a low level 16:24:06 vincent_hou: but stack.sh should've come up with an error 16:24:23 vincent_hou: If you have time maybe we could chat offline after the meeting? 16:24:41 jgriffith: ok 16:24:51 vincent_hou: great... 16:25:05 #topic tempest failures 16:25:32 So something I noticed yesterday/last night was a much higher frequency of intermittent fails in the gate tests 16:26:07 I'm pretty sure this is the dd issue... but I'm a bit concerened because the frequency seems to have increased significantly 16:26:22 also I'm seeing it on the volume-delete, not just snapshots 16:26:41 I'm wondering if O-Direct or the other changes may have something to do with this? 16:26:56 has anybody seen anything interesting around this in their own testing? 16:27:55 not I 16:28:10 but I never touch the default driver 16:28:25 bswartz: lucky you :) 16:28:46 alright, I'm setting up some tests to gather some timing and stats on this right now 16:28:49 we'll see how it goes 16:29:59 #topic open discussion 16:30:09 Anybody have anything they want to bring up? 16:30:29 when does grizzly open up? 16:30:38 bswartz: It's open 16:30:53 where so I submit changes destined for grizzly? 16:31:02 bswartz: master 16:31:12 okay 16:31:17 bswartz: items that go into review right now are Grizzly 16:31:30 bswartz: But TBH I'm a bit more concerned/focused on Folsom until it's done 16:31:49 yeah I don't want to create distractions from Folsom 16:31:54 bswartz: So you likely won't get much attention this week if you push a bunch of stuff 16:32:06 I will hold off for now 16:32:14 bswartz: Your call 16:32:23 I have some small stuff, I'm saving the bigger stuff for after the conference 16:32:44 bswartz: :) 16:33:15 speaking of conference... 16:33:27 I'd like to dedicate some time at next weeks meeting to talk about summit sessions 16:33:37 Just so you know I'm not forgetting :) 16:33:59 is there a deadline for submitting summit sessions? 16:34:04 I'm working on a submission 16:34:13 You've got time.. 16:34:24 If you can have it by next weeks meeting that would be good 16:34:41 but even if not you'll be ok 16:35:01 bswartz: I'm assuming your talking Cinder sessions? 16:35:07 yes 16:35:14 bswartz: If you're talking general summit sessions those are closed 16:35:24 K 16:35:25 I submitted a general summit session and did not get the votes 16:35:49 bswartz: yeah, the vote thing wasn't very good this time around IMO 16:37:03 anybody else have anything? 16:37:41 Ok, thanks everyone 16:37:48 thx, john 16:37:52 vincent_hou: I'll meet you in #openstack-cinder 16:38:11 ok 16:38:12 later guys... ping me if you need anything! 16:38:20 #endmeeting cinder