16:00:30 #startmeeting cinder 16:00:31 Meeting started Wed Jan 15 16:00:30 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jgriffith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:32 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:34 The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' 16:00:38 hello all 16:00:40 Hey everyone!! 16:00:40 hi 16:00:41 hi 16:00:47 Hello! 16:00:50 o/ 16:00:56 hello 16:00:58 o/ 16:01:09 hmmm... 16:01:15 * jgriffith can't get to launchpad this morning 16:01:29 I can 16:01:30 there it is 16:01:43 #topic I2 status 16:01:46 #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/icehouse-2 16:01:50 https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/icehouse-2 16:01:54 avishay: haha :) 16:01:55 * jungleboyj can get to launchpad. 16:02:02 :) 16:02:08 Ok... down to biz 16:02:21 so we're not looking too bad, but not too good either 16:02:35 You'll notice i deferred a TON of stuff 16:02:49 gate isn't helping :) any word? 16:02:51 going forward we're going to have to be more realistic about what we sign up for I think :) 16:03:09 :-) 16:03:10 jgriffith: isn't what we say every time? :) 16:03:22 avishay: gate's been better this week but we had a patch that got a +2/A that promptly failed unit tests 16:03:34 and caused everything behind it to puuuke 16:03:43 yep 16:03:43 rushiagr: LOL 16:03:56 the config sample change? 16:04:03 yep 16:04:06 The gates's the gate, we can fix it up and offer assistance to make it better 16:04:07 can the CI team somehow push eharney's patch to the front of the queue? 16:04:18 avishay: I just pushed everybody elses to the back :) 16:04:36 avishay: and no... sadly the queue doesn't work that way I don't think 16:04:43 jgriffith: ok, gotcha 16:04:53 it's technically possible i think, but not sure about willingness 16:04:56 avishay: it's really a queue, and build dependencies as it chugs along 16:05:07 just like 'recheck bug' we can have 'get me in first' 16:05:14 eharney: it would require a reset on all jobs in the queue, those are nasty 16:05:23 ah, right 16:05:23 yep 16:05:24 rushiagr: LOL 16:05:37 anywho.... 16:05:46 so I realize gates a challenge sometimes 16:05:47 BUT 16:05:58 honestly there's a good number of items not submitted 16:06:00 simple reboot the jenkins cluster should do the trick. :D 16:06:13 particularly those that I deferred, had not been started and had no updates 16:06:30 so I moved them to I3, still having doubts about them getting done there :( 16:06:34 winston-d: LOL!!!! 16:06:52 winston-d: "simple", "reboot" and "jenkins cluster" all in the same sentence 16:06:55 :) 16:07:16 dosaboy: any updated on your metadata support in backups? 16:07:57 dosaboy: ok... we'll come back and see if you're available later 16:08:07 avishay: do you have any contact with ronenkat? 16:08:16 jgriffith: yes, why? 16:08:18 avishay: or does he have a nifty irc nic that I just don't know :) 16:08:32 avishay: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/cinder-backup-recover-api 16:08:53 jgriffith: will ping him, 1 min 16:09:16 avishay: thnx! 16:09:33 anybody have objections to their items that I deferred? 16:09:55 which btw puts us at 21 BP's for I-3 which I think is unrealistic 16:10:05 :O 16:10:08 wow 16:10:19 https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/icehouse-3 16:10:20 mine is already submitted :) 16:10:35 avishay: yes avishay you're the exception today :) 16:10:44 * coolsvap too 16:10:57 I'm mostly looking at like Duncans that's been deferred twice 16:10:58 just the patch set is abandoned tiil i2 16:11:08 the FC changes that have been deferred for 2 releases 16:11:38 Then the "new" ones from folks we never hear from or see in IRC :) 16:11:51 jgriffith: ronenkat is here 16:11:53 coolsvap: ? 16:11:57 jgriffith: I think the fc zone mgr is getting closer we're testing it in-house 16:12:07 kmartin: You said that last year :) 16:12:12 lol 16:12:13 kmartin: sorry... couldn't resist 16:12:14 haha 16:12:15 ok 16:12:25 ok... ronenkat 16:12:31 hi 16:12:43 ronenkat: any update on your backup/recovery bp? 16:12:45 jgriffith: my code changes for multi-volume create are done! just waiting to resubmit after i2 freeze 16:12:48 can we spend two minute discuss this bp? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/cinder-force-host 16:12:56 coolsvap: Ahh.. got ya :) 16:12:57 thanks 16:12:58 if there was still time 16:13:05 winston-d: which one? 16:13:07 lol 16:13:20 * jgriffith has lost control... it's anarchy and burning couches in the street 16:13:51 ronenkat: so I'm wondering is it realistic to have your BP targetted for I2 still? 16:13:57 ronenkat: are you still working on it? 16:14:09 ronenkat: any chance of it landing in gerrit in the next day or two? 16:14:10 jgriffith: still working, it takes a bit more than I anticipated, mainly learning the maze of getting the commands to move between client and API. I mostly need to create test code now 16:14:35 ronenkat: ok, so sounds like not much chance of making it for I2 then? 16:14:42 ronenkat: would you like it bumped to I3? 16:15:15 jgriffith: I think you are right, I will probably make it into gerrir by mid next week, not before that 16:15:28 ronenkat: TBH I suspect it's going to be significant enough of a change that I don't want to rush review/testing on it either 16:15:39 ronenkat: Ok, I'm going to push it to I3 then 16:15:44 ronenkat: thanks for the update 16:15:52 jgriffith: ok 16:16:17 That just leaves dosaboy :) 16:16:24 I'll try and catch up with him later 16:16:36 so to reiterate... 16:16:52 The items listed for I2 "bugs and blueprints" are priority for reviewers 16:17:01 the sooner we get those reviewed the better 16:17:10 we REALLY don't want to wait til next week if possible 16:17:18 sound good to everyone? 16:17:31 +1 16:17:32 Makes sense. 16:17:40 +2 16:17:42 cool 16:17:52 we have a boat load of bugs too... don't forget those :) 16:18:29 I'm guessing that the ones that people assigned themeselves to but aren't in the queue should be reassigned 16:18:30 http://status.openstack.org/reviews/#cinder 16:19:04 so if you're lookign for a great way to help out other than reviews grab one of those bugs up top that don't have code submitted :) 16:19:20 thingee: hey!! I thought you'd be on the train or something 16:19:34 lurkin' 16:19:37 thingee: :) 16:19:39 i am available if we have any such bugs 16:19:56 Anybody see any of those that they might be interested in, be able to work on? 16:19:56 what? we have a review opened for 165 days? 16:20:21 winston-d: it's WIP 16:20:31 eharney: winston-d that reminds me!!! 16:20:56 If you have a WIP that you know is pretty much dead please abandon it 16:21:06 I'm looking at you guitarzan 16:21:07 :) 16:21:19 jgriffith: haha, let me look :) 16:21:24 hah 16:21:46 There are others as well, but guitarzan is good humored so I can poke at him :) 16:21:49 jgriffith: That one that is assigned to me is on my list for this week. It is mostly done but has test case issues. 16:22:03 jungleboyj: k... you think you can get it done? 16:22:22 jungleboyj: the good thing is it's low pri, so I'm not terribly worried 16:22:28 jgriffith: Yessir. I can do my best. 16:22:34 The High and Med are my top concerns 16:22:45 VMWare is likely best left to VMware 16:23:01 jgriffith: I wonder why that doesn't show as in progress. I need to look at that. 16:23:07 but the delete extra-spec with '/' we should look at 16:23:16 i was looking at it 16:23:23 jungleboyj: launchpad is good, but it's not perfect at auto-updating 16:23:27 rushiagr: oh... cool 16:23:38 I plan to look at it this week too, but cant guarantee if I can get it done 16:23:54 rushiagr: ok, please keep me/us posted later this week at how it goes for ya 16:24:06 rushiagr: if I can help let me know 16:24:08 jgriffith: sure 16:24:11 rushiagr: let me know if I can assist 16:24:20 oops! 16:24:26 coolsvap: appreciate ur help 16:24:26 alright.... 16:24:49 Just a heads up, after we get I2 out, we'll need to have a meeting to take a hard look at what's targetted for I3 16:25:04 You might want to be thinking about what's there between now and then 16:25:27 We should trim that list down to something realistic based on previous milestone accomplishments 16:25:35 and on that note.... 16:25:40 #topic open discussion 16:25:51 winston-d: which bp did you want to discuss? 16:26:13 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/cinder-force-host this one 16:26:46 jgriffith: reminder - you also had cert test on the agenda 16:26:51 Ohhh yes :) 16:27:02 avishay: yeah... thanks :) 16:27:22 I've been -2 on Jay Lau's implementation. but I'd like to hear your opinion 16:27:41 winston-d: would that translate to a filter that just specified "host must be X"? 16:28:05 caitlin56: yes, you can do that with a scheduler hint 16:28:48 scheduler is smart enough to take input like 'host' must be something, or 'free space' must be larger than a value 16:29:00 winston-d: I think I would agree 16:29:32 It sounds useful, and really doesn't disrupt anything. sounds good to me. 16:29:37 winston-d: end user shouldn't know anything about "host" anyway 16:30:00 jgriffith: yes, that's my point too 16:30:14 caitlin56: force host or scheduler hint? 16:30:49 jgriffith: specifying a host via a hint. I can't see why not. Normally you don't need to specify a host, but there are special needs. 16:31:13 jgriffith: he is willing to make it admin-only, but it's something that can already be done 16:31:14 caitlin56: scheduler hint is already there. 16:31:17 winston-d: caitlin56 Ok... I think -2 is appropriate and implement as sched hint 16:31:32 avishay: thingee kmartin jungleboyj objections/agreement? 16:31:53 jgriffith: agreed, -2, should be accompanied with how to do it alternately 16:32:07 jgriffith: we can already do that with scheduler hint, i think i provided an example in the reviews 16:32:20 let me check 16:32:46 winston-d: I'm looking through your comments but there are a lot of them :) 16:32:48 Winston-d, so if you can do it already do you really need anything other than better documentation to highlight it? 16:32:53 agreed, scheduler hints is what I've been advocating in my talks too :) 16:33:09 jgriffith: That is fine with me. 16:33:11 don't make me update a slide, or something 16:33:43 thingee: haha 16:34:18 jgriffith: don't know how the get a link for specific review comment, but if you look at the longest comment i left for patch set 2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55076/ 16:34:21 #action make sure openstack-docs has example of how to do sched hint for host 16:34:27 thingee: i will update for you :) 16:34:38 Ok... sounds good... 16:34:40 done deal 16:34:42 :) 16:34:56 anybody have anything else before I talk about the cert stuff again? 16:35:00 i actually gave an example of how to use scheduler hint to 'force' a volume on certain host 16:35:36 #topic cert tests/script 16:35:49 It seems there's something broken in the tempest env when trying to run this 16:36:17 I'm looking at it, but it's also interesting that everybody thought this was a good idea but apparantly nobody is running it :) 16:36:23 Do we stil want to do this? 16:36:31 yes, please 16:36:46 yes, i was hoping to get around to it soon 16:37:00 Ok... cool 16:37:00 yes, still need to run the 3par and lefthand drivers against it 16:37:18 so I believe the problem is that the run_tests.sh script doesn't build the test lib any more 16:37:26 i'd ask for a cert test result from vendors before we considering next purchase 16:37:29 so when you run it on a clean setup it doesn't find any tests 16:37:42 and you get the silly "Ran 0 tests in xxx" OK 16:37:55 really? 16:38:01 winston-d: FYI I have a plan for the next iteration that will be even better 16:38:07 just need to work out some details 16:38:08 i've seen this in some instances with "run_tests.sh -V cinder.some.test" too 16:38:36 jgriffith: did you document the location of the script somewhere? 16:38:42 eharney: Yeah, I tried to avoid it by not doing venv 16:38:45 that's why i usually use tox instead of run_tests.sh 16:39:03 avishay: educate me :) 16:39:16 avishay: tox would be the answer here I believe 16:39:20 jgriffith: winston-d taught me the little that i know :) 16:39:27 detox, if you got the cores :) 16:39:37 thingee: lol 16:39:52 avishay: the problem is I wasn't sure how tox worked in tempest/devstack 16:40:04 avishay: when trying to use 'real' devs and conf files 16:40:15 suppose it should just work still 16:40:20 jgriffith: no idea 16:40:22 Ok 16:40:27 I'll play with it 16:40:31 sorry 16:40:34 probably ping avishay and winston-d :) 16:40:50 since I've always been the only fan of run_tests.sh :( 16:40:56 hah 16:41:38 jgriffith: You aren't the only fan. 16:41:38 jgriffith: me too. tox never runs for me, and I never cared 16:41:49 rushiagr: +1 16:41:51 rushiagr: jungleboyj yayy!!! 16:41:55 I've never liked tox 16:42:09 * jungleboyj starts run_tests.sh lovers anonymous 16:42:21 rushiagr: you must be kidding. :) 16:42:38 winston-d: only about 'never cared' part ;) 16:42:46 alright... we can take this offline :) 16:42:52 next topic - vim or emacs? ;) 16:43:00 avishay: LOL!!! 16:43:06 avishay: you're a funny guy 16:43:07 :D 16:43:17 avishay: MS Notepad FTW!!! 16:43:33 jgriffith: :) 16:43:41 alright... thanks everyone!! 16:43:58 Hang tough on reviews the next few days please :) 16:44:03 jgriffith: please update when the cert script is working, will like to try it out 16:44:04 #endmeeting cinder