16:03:02 <smcginnis> #startmeeting Cinder 16:03:03 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jul 29 16:03:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:03:04 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:03:06 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' 16:03:08 * jungleboyj just pinged thingee 16:03:13 <smcginnis> Wow, I feel powerful. :) 16:03:14 <Swanson> hello 16:03:15 <vincent_hou> hi 16:03:21 <jungleboyj> Oooh, smcginnis Knows the magic. 16:03:32 <geguileo> Awesome!! 16:03:36 <kmartin> smcginnis, first time? 16:03:37 <DuncanT> smcginnis: Agenda at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderMeetings - you have the chair 16:03:43 <tbarron> hi 16:03:48 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: Is my hero. 16:03:57 <smcginnis> #topic Midcycle logistics 16:04:04 <smcginnis> This is kind of fun. 16:04:10 <smcginnis> scottda: You're up. 16:04:15 <vincent_hou> enjoy 16:04:16 <scottda> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-liberty-midcycle-meetup 16:04:18 <thingee> o/ 16:04:24 <smcginnis> thingee: Yay! 16:04:28 * thingee sits back and relax 16:04:34 <scottda> Please make sure that if you are physically attending the mid-cycle, that your name is on the list 16:04:44 <smcginnis> thingee: No, the responsibility is too much for me. :) 16:04:58 <scottda> That helps with security, and also for head count at hosted dinners. 16:05:21 <scottda> I've put my contact info on the etherpad with my phone #, in case you have issues. 16:05:23 <smcginnis> scottda: Is there a meeting point for getting signed in? 16:05:50 <scottda> Yes, the google map points to Building 3 and I've put in the etherpad to go to the main entrance. 16:06:07 <scottda> also, kmartin DuncanT and hemna can escort you in. 16:06:19 <smcginnis> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-liberty-midcycle-meetup 16:06:41 <vincent_hou> scottda: Are we gonna have live broadcast for the mid cycle meetup? 16:06:44 <thingee> scottda: you're awesome for the google maps.... 16:06:50 <scottda> That's about all I have to say. Let me know if you've issues or need directions from airport, etc. 16:06:58 <scottda> hehe..google maps is easy. 16:06:59 <thingee> scottda: I swear everytime I walk through these large campuses...just getting dirty looks 16:07:10 <scottda> vincent_hou: I assume so, we've done that in the past. 16:07:23 <scottda> thingee: nahhh..you fit right in. 16:07:29 * smcginnis just realized if I started the meeting I was stuck in charge. :[ 16:07:29 <thingee> usually hemna handles that 16:07:36 <cebruns> What time are we kicking off on Tue? 16:07:40 <kmartin> vincent_hou, yes, we'll do the google hangout with cameras 16:07:50 <vincent_hou> Nice. 16:07:54 <jungleboyj> kmartin: ++ 16:08:11 <breitz> what time are things starting up on the 4th? 16:08:13 <scottda> cebruns: Good question. 9:00 AM for official start? I'll be there by 8:30 to get people in, etc. 16:08:33 <ameade> scottda: is that mountain time? 16:08:42 * DuncanT will be avoiding the geese this time.... 16:08:52 <scottda> yes, MDT which is UTC + 6:00 16:09:05 <cebruns> scottda: Sounds good. 16:09:21 <akerr> UTC - 6:00 16:09:38 <smcginnis> I threw that on the etherpad. 16:09:38 <scottda> oh, right akerr 16:10:15 <smcginnis> scottda: Cool. Any other logistics or info? 16:10:24 <scottda> no, I think that's it. 16:10:35 <smcginnis> #topic Midcycle Tuesday Dinner 16:10:38 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: ? 16:10:51 <jungleboyj> I am here. 16:11:02 <jungleboyj> Thursday night dinner. So, planning to do it at Austin's. 16:11:04 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: Want dinner info captured on the etherpad too? 16:11:17 <scottda> smcginnis: it all should be there already 16:11:29 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: That would be great. If people can indicate whether they are coming for THursday so I can get an accurate number. 16:11:33 <smcginnis> I mean as far as attendance, etc. 16:11:38 <scottda> ahh..ok 16:11:51 <jungleboyj> Not sure how may people might be leaving Thursday evening, etc. 16:12:02 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: Wait, Thursday or Tuesday? 16:12:13 <jungleboyj> If you have any special food requirements let me know because they are going to do a limited menu for the larger group. 16:12:17 <jungleboyj> Thursday night. 16:12:34 <jungleboyj> That is what I have for the meeting minutes. 16:12:41 <jungleboyj> Or Agenda I mean. 16:12:45 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: OK, thanks. 16:12:57 <smcginnis> #topic Rootwrap daemon mode in liberty 16:13:03 <smcginnis> aarefiev: You're up. 16:13:05 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: Thanks all! 16:13:15 <smcginnis> #link Hours 16:13:18 <smcginnis> Oops 16:13:19 <aarefiev> I'm here 16:13:23 <aarefiev> just one question 16:13:38 <smcginnis> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137318/ 16:13:45 <aarefiev> in kilo it was decided that nova and cinder wait for neutron implements it, today nova have landed related spec 16:13:46 <smcginnis> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105404/ 16:14:19 <aarefiev> do we want this in L 16:14:51 <smcginnis> Looks like we lost half the folks. 16:15:10 <smcginnis> Would like to get thingee's input, but he appears to be affected by whatever happened. 16:15:22 <jungleboyj> BOOOM 16:15:25 <smcginnis> aarefiev: FWIW, the idea sounds good to me. 16:15:30 <aarefiev> :) 16:15:43 <jungleboyj> thingee had said no for Kilo. 16:15:52 <aarefiev> yep we need thingee 16:15:54 <DuncanT> aarefiev: My only concern here was to ensure the daemon is tested with very large stdin/out (tens of mb) since that is a pattern we have in the sheepdog driver 16:15:54 <jungleboyj> I think we are early enough in Liberty it should be ok. 16:16:02 <DuncanT> aarefiev: I'll add that to the review 16:16:10 <smcginnis> DuncanT: Wow, really? 16:16:11 <jungleboyj> aarefiev: Nova is using it right? 16:16:27 <aarefiev> DuncanT: sure 16:16:48 <aarefiev> jungleboyj: not yet, on impl phase 16:16:57 <aarefiev> neutron does 16:17:25 <jungleboyj> aarefiev: Oh ... 16:17:30 <smcginnis> aarefiev: Do we need it implemented in nova first? 16:17:46 <smcginnis> aarefiev: Not that that should really affect accepting the spec I suppose. 16:17:55 <aarefiev> wy we should waiting for nova 16:17:59 <DuncanT> smcginnis: sheepdog backup IIRC 16:18:06 <smcginnis> DuncanT: Dang 16:19:05 <smcginnis> OK, so until everyone is able to get back, is there anything we can decide here? 16:19:22 <aarefiev> neutron landed it in kilo, nova working on it now, don't see any reasons to wait for cinder 16:19:40 <DuncanT> aarefiev: +1 16:20:09 <aarefiev> DuncanT: thanks, I'll address your comment 16:20:09 <DuncanT> Neutron is a pretty hard core test case for it... if they're happy, we should be good 16:20:20 <smcginnis> #action thingee to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137318 16:20:31 <smcginnis> At least that's captured then. ^^ 16:20:50 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: ++ 16:20:58 <jungleboyj> It is good that Neutron is using it. 16:21:21 <smcginnis> I agree. If there's acceptance elsewhere I think we're probably good. 16:21:33 <aarefiev> thanks 16:21:42 <smcginnis> thingee: Yay! 16:21:56 <jungleboyj> three cheers for thingee 16:21:58 <smcginnis> thingee: Assinging things to you while you were offline. :) 16:22:16 <DuncanT> You've scared him off 16:22:24 <thingee> sorry issues with irccloud 16:22:38 <smcginnis> Lost half the attendees in one swoop. 16:22:55 <tbarron> that's where ameade went too :-) 16:23:00 <smcginnis> thingee: Still discussing rootwrap daemon mode. 16:23:08 <tbarron> he's still kicked 16:23:12 <smcginnis> Looks like it's been accepted in nova a neutron. 16:23:14 <cebruns> So much for cloud being resilient and scalable. 16:23:21 <jungleboyj> cebruns: :-) 16:23:22 <smcginnis> That cloud stuff. 16:23:49 <thingee> I'm slightly worried on this not getting enough testing. 16:23:51 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: They must not be on OpenStack. :-) 16:23:59 <e0ne> :) 16:24:04 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: ;) 16:24:07 <thingee> I'd like to talk to johnthetubaguy oh his thoughts. 16:24:23 <thingee> for merging the spec in late June...that's fine. 16:25:11 <thingee> anyone have similar concerns? 16:25:24 <aarefiev> thingee: also it's optional mode 16:25:38 <thingee> aarefiev: that's a good point. 16:25:43 <thingee> off by default I assume 16:25:44 <e0ne> we've got a lot of untested features 16:25:50 <smcginnis> e0ne: +1 16:25:51 <jungleboyj> aarefiev: That is a good thing. 16:26:03 <aarefiev> thingee: yep 16:26:35 <thingee> aarefiev: refresh my memory on the cross project discussion with this 16:26:40 <e0ne> ofcource, we should care for get it tested 16:26:47 <tbarron> e0ne: is that a reason to add more? 16:27:05 <e0ne> we could test rootwrap deamon in an experimental queue 16:27:13 <smcginnis> e0ne: I like that idea. 16:27:17 <e0ne> tbarron: no, it's just a fact 16:27:30 <tbarron> e0ne: kk, just checking :-) 16:27:43 <tbarron> I'm not against rootwrap daemon BTW. 16:27:48 <aarefiev> aarefiev: I think it was discussed that neutron first try this feature 16:27:58 <tbarron> just couldn't resist that statement. 16:28:08 <aarefiev> thingee^ 16:28:16 <thingee> aarefiev: for the record, I gave a -2 on this because I wanted cross project involvement. Nova != cross project approved 16:28:56 <aarefiev> thingee: and neutron 16:29:00 <thingee> Reading the comments here, that seems to have been ignored https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137318/ 16:29:22 <thingee> aarefiev: not sure if you're ignoring me here too and just throwing project names at me. 16:29:44 <thingee> aarefiev: again, was there discussion cross project about this? I can't remember 16:29:57 <aarefiev> thingee: about what comment you are talking 16:30:24 <thingee> february 9th I posted the comment "Based on discussions from the cross projects meeting, Nova is waiting for Neutron to try this. I say we hold off in Cinder as well then." 16:30:42 <thingee> ok so there was a cross project discussion 16:30:55 <thingee> but based on those comments we agreed that nova can go forward, neutron is holding off. 16:30:59 <thingee> I'm fine with cinder holding off 16:31:08 <thingee> I'd recommend you focus on getting things working in Nova 16:31:28 <DuncanT> thingee: neutron has merged it... nova went ahead based on neutron success 16:31:31 <aarefiev> thingee: I don't think there was ones more cross project discussion 16:32:51 <aarefiev> thingee: after that one you are mentioned 16:33:18 <thingee> #action thingee to reevaluate based on other project decisions 16:33:34 <smcginnis> Maybe an ML discussion to get some more visibility? 16:33:55 <thingee> smcginnis: I don't need discussion. I don't really want something untested this late to be merged in 16:34:02 <thingee> Unless someone has a good reason it should 16:34:08 <thingee> it's like multi-attach all over again. 16:34:15 <smcginnis> Fair point. 16:34:19 <thingee> and people didn't listen to me then 16:34:52 <thingee> I'll look it over again and comment on the review 16:35:07 <smcginnis> OK, several more things on the agenda. Are we OK to move along? 16:35:31 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: ++ 16:35:40 <smcginnis> #topic Cinder FFE requests 16:35:44 <aarefiev> thingee: it makes good performance increase on concurrency and wouldn't be used by default 16:35:54 <smcginnis> kaisers: You're up. 16:35:56 <kaisers> thanks 16:36:11 <kaisers> I just wanted to ask if there's a date for FFE decision set up 16:36:23 <kaisers> I have one out (please see the links in the agenda) 16:36:24 <thingee> smcginnis: driver additions are not feature freeze exceptions. 16:36:35 <thingee> kaisers: ^ whoops 16:36:38 <kaisers> And so far couldn't find out how to prgoress on this 16:36:43 <kaisers> *progress 16:37:00 <kaisers> ok 16:37:05 <thingee> kaisers: I can look over your request again. I will remind you on the ML when you asked for your driver to be accepted again, I pointed out the CI still be unstable. 16:37:13 <kaisers> yep 16:37:28 <kaisers> i replied on that (please see the link to the mail archive) 16:37:30 <thingee> kaisers: please ping me and don't take up time in this meeting for these vendor needs. 16:37:33 <thingee> smcginnis: can we move on? 16:37:34 <kaisers> ok 16:37:36 <kaisers> done 16:37:47 <smcginnis> #topic Cinder Liberty Review 16:37:52 <smcginnis> erlon: 16:37:56 <erlon> hi 16:38:21 <erlon> so, we have a couple of patches that need to get in liberty 16:38:26 <thingee> oh my goodness people.. 16:38:35 <thingee> can we please not use the meeting for this purpose. 16:38:42 <jungleboyj> thingee: ++ 16:38:43 <thingee> erlon: liberty-2 has been tagged 16:38:50 <erlon> just need to know if those will be put in that review list 16:38:58 <thingee> erlon: please just add it to the etherpad. it's an etherpad. 16:39:04 <smcginnis> erlon: Yeah, let's just discuss in channel if there are any issues. 16:39:05 <jgriffith> thingee: +2 16:39:14 <thingee> smcginnis: move on 16:39:14 <smcginnis> #topic Unapproved BP queue 16:39:17 <erlon> thingee: ok, 16:39:30 <smcginnis> tbarron: Is this you? 16:39:30 <thingee> tbarron: your bps are approved 16:39:33 <tbarron> our queue just went away, but have quick policy question 16:39:34 <thingee> tbarron: ping me next time 16:39:38 <thingee> smcginnis: move on 16:39:41 <geguileo> I have something to say 16:39:46 <thingee> geguileo: yes 16:40:00 <dannywilson> I have a bp needing approval too 16:40:01 <geguileo> dulek is away, but he wanted me to ask about pushing a spec (has a blueprint) 16:40:06 <thingee> dannywilson: ping me 16:40:08 <geguileo> BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/cinder-volume-active-active-ha 16:40:15 <geguileo> spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202615/ 16:40:16 <dannywilson> thingee: thanks 16:40:23 <geguileo> It's basically the spec for the Tooz locks 16:40:40 <geguileo> I have also just written another spec for that same BP 16:40:42 <geguileo> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207101/ 16:40:56 <geguileo> This one is to remove the API races without breaking Cinder-Nova interactions 16:40:59 <thingee> Just so people are aware, I did review specs earlier last week and approved some that were ready. I did not approve any this last weekend or so far this week because of the liberty-2 tag. I would appreciate people being mindful of the community deadlines. 16:41:15 <thingee> but for the most part, a lot of these specs had -1's 16:41:33 <geguileo> thingee: Deadline for specs were last week? 16:41:49 <geguileo> Or are like bps this Friday? 16:42:53 <thingee> geguileo: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2015/cinder.2015-07-22-16.00.log.html#l-333 16:43:02 <smcginnis> geguileo, thingee: Ready to move on? 16:43:04 <thingee> geguileo: I think you were at pyeuro when we made this decision 16:43:06 <thingee> smcginnis: yes 16:43:07 <jgriffith> geguileo: I'd like to talk to you about the HA proposals later if you're around? 16:43:12 <smcginnis> #topic Unit tests for John's replication patch 16:43:15 <geguileo> thingee: Yep, I was out last week 16:43:17 <vilobhmm> geguileo : I guess this work is well accepted in Nova..the compare and swap approach 16:43:20 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: You're on. 16:43:21 <thingee> geguileo: I appreciate your write up. I have yet to read it though 16:43:23 <geguileo> jgriffith: Ok 16:43:31 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: Hey, thanks. 16:43:38 <thingee> jgriffith, geguileo please include me 16:43:54 <jgriffith> thingee: yeah... #openstack-cinder 16:43:56 <geguileo> thingee: Ok 16:44:00 <jungleboyj> As we were looking at the patch for replication that John had out we were wondering if we could help with the unit test part. 16:44:12 <jungleboyj> vincent_hou: Would be available to do so. 16:44:18 * thingee checks if jgriffith updated the replication spec so he can approve it 16:44:30 <jgriffith> thingee: I HAVE NOT, BUT CAN DO SO 16:44:31 <jungleboyj> jgriffith: Is that ok with you and if so how would you like us to do that? 16:44:35 <jgriffith> oops.. caps-lock 16:44:40 <thingee> whoa 16:44:40 <thingee> haha 16:44:43 <jungleboyj> Ooops. 16:44:54 <jgriffith> jungleboyj: sure, but honestly I was hoping to get some reviews on the patch itself before adding to it :) 16:44:57 <jungleboyj> thingee: The capslock was mean for me. ;-) 16:45:02 <thingee> jgriffith: I've left a few pings about it. that would be great. 16:45:12 <jgriffith> thingee: yeah... sorry, I'll do that today 16:45:17 <jungleboyj> jgriffith: Right, there are some comments out there. 16:45:25 <thingee> #action thingee will approve the replication spec this week 16:45:30 <jgriffith> jungleboyj: yeah, typos :) 16:45:32 <jungleboyj> jgriffith: We can wait for the right timing but wanted to start the discussion. 16:45:33 <thingee> assuming no further stoppers 16:45:38 <thingee> and jgriffith can focus in code land 16:46:00 <jgriffith> jungleboyj: Finishing the patch up isn't difficult, getting valuable reviews on the other hand seems to be a challenge 16:46:05 <jgriffith> thingee: +1 16:46:18 <jgriffith> wait... that came out wrong 16:46:36 <jgriffith> Not saying the reviews it's received aren't valuable... just saying they're "sparse" 16:46:37 <jungleboyj> :-) 16:46:40 <thingee> jgriffith: I think I will have a hard time testing this one. 16:46:41 <jgriffith> in terms of the number of them 16:46:44 <smcginnis> :) 16:46:52 <jgriffith> thingee: good point.. impossible to test 16:47:04 <jungleboyj> Ok, so first priority is to get more people doing reviews. 16:47:13 <thingee> could just setup a fake driver patch and verify code paths work as expected. 16:47:14 <jgriffith> jungleboyj: well... "good" reviews 16:47:20 <jungleboyj> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200269/ 16:47:38 <vilobhmm> thingee : regarding nested quota driver for cinder need help with reviews to get this in liberty 16:48:01 <vilobhmm> smcginnis and jungleboyj have been very kind with the reviews 16:48:15 <jungleboyj> jgriffith: Agreed. smcginnis, xyang1 , patrickeast hemna You all are hoping to eventually use replication. Right? 16:48:17 <thingee> vilobhmm: reach out to breitz for testing too 16:48:18 <vilobhmm> i already have 2 patches merged the final piece needs to be merged 16:48:23 <hemna> jungleboyj, yes 16:48:25 <patrickeast> jungleboyj: correct 16:48:26 <jungleboyj> Can we get your eyes on the patch? 16:48:26 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: Yes. 16:48:27 * thingee is just going to throw everything at breitz 16:48:40 <vilobhmm> thingee : i have finished all the aspects already 16:48:55 <xyang1> thingee: Yes 16:48:57 <hemna> jungleboyj, ok I'll take a look at it. it's in merge conflict at the moment. 16:48:58 <thingee> vilobhmm: I need to test migration next, but it'll be next on my list 16:49:02 * breitz hides 16:49:08 <vilobhmm> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206170/ ; https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206171/ ; https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205369/ if this is reviwed we will have nested support in cinder 16:49:20 <thingee> breitz: I expect a full report :D 16:49:21 <smcginnis> We'll try to spend a little more time on it this. 16:49:27 <vilobhmm> thanks thingee 16:49:39 <vilobhmm> smcginnis : as always thanks for the reviews 16:49:41 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: xyang1 hemna Thank you! 16:49:49 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: Anything else on replication concerns? 16:49:59 <smcginnis> vilobhmm: NP 16:50:02 <jungleboyj> jgriffith: vincent_hou Is available for anything you need help with. 16:50:23 <smcginnis> Looks like breitz and vincent_hou are getting all the assignments. ;) 16:50:31 <vincent_hou> Y. 16:51:03 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: You good? 16:51:07 <jungleboyj> Yep. 16:51:08 <thingee> vincent_hou: volume migration is next on my list for testing 16:51:10 <jungleboyj> Thank you! 16:51:17 <smcginnis> #topic Open Discussion 16:51:18 <smcginnis> For the record, I want to apologize thingee. 16:51:21 <thingee> just got done with image caching 16:51:21 <smcginnis> I was trying to help out getting things started. 16:51:23 <geguileo> Bye 16:51:24 <smcginnis> I didn't realize that meant I was taking over. 16:51:24 <vincent_hou> thingee: Thx. 16:51:30 <smcginnis> thingee: Any announcements you wanted to cover? 16:51:38 <thingee> smcginnis: that's fine. I was having irc issues 16:51:44 <jungleboyj> thingee: Thanks! 16:51:54 <thingee> usually I have this stuff started right on the dot 16:51:56 <jungleboyj> Look all we got done. smcginnis The task master! 16:52:08 <thingee> yes 16:52:09 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: Hah! 16:52:09 <albertom> I have a change that needs feedback, not sure if this is the right place to ask for 16:52:10 <thingee> announcements 16:52:19 <albertom> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194920/ 16:52:20 <thingee> have folks been looking at my comments with regards to image caching? 16:52:27 <thingee> patrickeast: ping 16:52:36 <patrickeast> yo 16:52:42 <Swanson> thingee: don't be fooled by smcginnis. It was a failed coup. 16:52:55 <tbarron> thingee: yes :-) 16:52:56 <smcginnis> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195795/ 16:53:01 <smcginnis> Swanson: You be quiet! 16:53:03 <thingee> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/070714.html 16:53:10 <thingee> my notes on image caching^ 16:53:16 <thingee> we have two efforts 16:53:16 <cebruns> Swanson: :) 16:53:35 <thingee> here's patrick east's reasons on the two http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/070721.html 16:53:47 <smcginnis> patrickeast: That was a nice write up! 16:53:50 <thingee> lenghty but good read 16:54:05 <thingee> I need discussions to happen on this. 16:54:22 <thingee> we have two solutions. I think this results in confusions from the operators perspective. 16:54:28 <thingee> I want to avoid that 16:54:36 <smcginnis> thingee: Agreed 16:54:38 <patrickeast> thingee: 100% on board with that 16:54:41 <tbarron> +1 16:55:08 <patrickeast> minimal confusion, maximal fast image volume creation 16:55:12 <thingee> so please, please people give the time to understand the goals here and lets settle on something. 16:55:27 <cebruns> thingee: +1 - sounds like a good topic for the Meetup 16:55:32 <jungleboyj> thingee: ++ It is something that would be good to get in. 16:55:34 <jungleboyj> cebruns: ++ 16:55:38 <thingee> don't wait for the meetup to understand though 16:55:51 <thingee> understand things before the meetup 16:56:05 <thingee> so discussions are useful and not about getting up to speed 16:56:45 <thingee> nova liaison is an idea that was brought up from some nova folks like johnthetubaguy 16:56:51 <cebruns> Agree - we should do the homework before the meetup. 16:57:20 <thingee> The likely folks for this role are hemna and scottda__. I'd suggest scottda__, just because hemna has a bunch of stuff on his plate with brick already 16:57:34 <thingee> and scottda__ has been doing an excellent write up of the API issues cinder <-> nova 16:57:45 <thingee> I'd like scottda__ to continue to work with hemna and jgriffith though 16:58:04 <hemna> ok sounds good. 16:58:17 <hemna> we have a lot of work to do in this regard 16:58:42 <thingee> hemna: not going to stop you though. If you want to take it on that's fine too. 16:58:52 <smcginnis> 2 minute warning. 16:59:01 <scottda__> scottda__, I'm fine either way. 16:59:02 <thingee> hemna: I think you would be fine for it. I just know you had to give up some of the multi-attach work to focus elsewhere. 16:59:27 <smcginnis> On to #openstack-cinder 16:59:30 <smcginnis> #endmeeting