16:00:08 #startmeeting Cinder 16:00:09 Meeting started Wed Feb 15 16:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:10 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:13 The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' 16:00:20 .o/ 16:00:22 Hello :) 16:00:24 o/ 16:00:29 hi 16:00:30 Hey everyone 16:00:31 o/ 16:00:33 o/ 16:00:33 hi 16:00:48 hi 16:01:25 hi 16:01:26 hi 16:01:48 I'd say it looks like a short one today, but that usually ends up being the ones where we run out of time. ;) 16:01:53 hi 16:02:01 #topic PTG Planning 16:02:09 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ATL-cinder-ptg-planning PTG topic planning 16:02:15 hi 16:02:21 smcginnis: no ping? 16:02:25 Hotel rooms are still available in the conference block if you have not booked yet. 16:02:34 geguileo: Doh! I'm off today. :) 16:02:41 ping dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell stevemar watanabe.isao,tommylikehu 16:02:47 mdovgal ildikov wxy viks ketonne abishop 16:02:49 hallo 16:02:50 There. :) 16:02:51 hey 16:02:53 smcginnis: thanks 16:03:16 Hi 16:03:32 hi 16:03:34 Please add any additional topics you would like to discuss (or have others discuss?) at the PTG. 16:03:35 * geguileo has an async dispatcher and needs pings/reminders for everything 16:03:40 ;) 16:04:08 We just have a couple set times for meeting with Nova and potentially for talking policy cross project. 16:04:23 Otherwise we'll just work our way through the topics as we go. 16:04:38 That seems to have worked well in past midcycles. 16:04:56 And keeps it flexible enough that if something comes up that needs our attention we can adapt. 16:05:15 I will try to timebox some discussions to hopefully avoid a little of the bikeshedding. 16:05:29 If anybody has conflicting agenda should mention it in the etherpad 16:05:35 geguileo: +1 16:06:07 * jungleboyj could use a new bikeshed though. ;-) 16:06:21 :) 16:06:46 Anything else as far as the PTG goes? Questions, comments, observations? 16:07:04 Hoping that it just goes like our normal mid-cycles do. 16:07:22 Going to do team photos. I'll be sending an email out later today about it. 16:07:36 That is cool. 16:07:36 Yeah, looking forward to seeing everyone and hanging out. 16:07:38 diablo_rojo_phon: What about bingo? 16:08:18 I have the cards from last time and a few updates, but could use some ideas. 16:08:26 If you have some on them to me. 16:08:29 diablo_rojo_phon: etherpad? :) 16:08:32 *pm 16:08:34 Hah 16:08:41 Lol could do that 16:08:49 hah..PM is maybe better 16:08:57 #topic Ocata release 16:09:10 scottda: You don;'t want evidence. 16:09:15 Just a reminder that final RC is tomorrow. Or tonight if things look good. 16:09:35 SO if there is anything important to get in, backport to stable/ocata ASAP and let me know. 16:09:50 Probably critical only at this point. 16:10:05 smcginnis: I believe there are a couple of patches that need to go in there 16:10:20 geguileo: OK, can you send me links? I'll take a look. 16:10:28 smcginnis: One has 2 +2 and +W is from Erlon, but it's in merge conflict now 16:10:35 geguileo: Me too please. 16:10:37 And I don't remember the other one 16:10:56 geguileo: In the stable/ocata branch? 16:10:57 geguileo: smcginnis : yeah, ill rebase that later on 16:11:16 smcginnis: No, in master (I think) 16:11:39 geguileo: Hmm. OK, better get that rebased quick if we want to have time to still get it back to ocata. 16:12:00 smcginnis: jungleboyj https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427348/ 16:12:43 Yeah, we should probably get that one in. Hopefully the gate cooperates. 16:12:49 looks like a good candidate for ocata 16:12:58 Yeah, that looks like a good one. 16:13:02 Jinx. 16:13:03 Is the reviews etherpad up-to-date? 16:13:21 diablo_rojo_phon: I started making updates there to switch gears over to Pike. 16:13:29 It can probably use some more attention. 16:13:31 i wrote the file that need for unit-tests changes from this patch 16:13:51 Okay, just wondered so we have somewhere to look for these final items. 16:13:52 I figured we will have more updates for it at/after the PTG. 16:14:01 erlon: what about this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422733/ 16:14:07 smcginnis: I'm sure we will :) 16:14:09 I think that's also a nasty one we would want fixed 16:14:37 geguileo: that should be quick t do as well 16:14:38 geguileo: +1 16:15:07 erlon: ping me when you've done it, please 16:15:07 erlon: Can you get those rebased soon? 16:15:21 geguileo: there are 4 patches in the chain, sure, Ill to that later today 16:15:31 erlon: thanks 16:15:57 erlon: Later as in in about 5 minutes from now? 16:15:59 :P 16:16:05 lol 16:16:20 smcginnis: That was subtle. 16:16:30 hehe 16:16:37 smcginnis: :p, 5 minutes from the end of the day ?:P 16:17:22 I guess Cinder will just be the last one out the door. But bswartz might wait longer again. :P 16:18:05 #topic Open discussion 16:18:16 I wanted to talk about Tempest tests..... 16:18:26 mtreinish: pinged me about Cinder V1 tests 16:18:37 :-/ 16:18:48 and that we should look at running them in a separate Cinder job, not necessarily on every patch. 16:18:53 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434354/ 16:19:04 scottda: That sounds good to me. 16:19:12 scottda: We've had the deprecated for a long time now. 16:19:36 smcginnis: Yup. So, anyone looking for something to do, we've some work there. 16:19:37 And even though we've said we can't get rid of it, I hate to see all those gate resources used to test something we don't care about. 16:19:59 smcginnis +1 16:20:03 I'll put something on the PTG agenda to make sure we follow through. Maybe under the existing test topic. 16:20:44 * diablo_rojo_phon preemptively fills in the bingo space about redefining each type of test. 16:20:45 scottda: That will at least spread awareness then. 16:21:06 scottda, I've got some cycles I could provide for that. 16:21:14 scottda: +1, that was what jordanP was getting at in his patch 16:21:18 it looks an odd to have some supported but deprecated an not-tested API 16:21:29 s/scottda/smcginnis 16:21:33 sigh, tab complete fail 16:21:38 mtreinish: +1 :) 16:21:56 sooner or later, API v1 will be broken w/o testing 16:21:57 e0ne: I do want to reraise the idea of actually removing that at some point. 16:22:18 smcginnis: I'm ready to remove it right now :) 16:22:26 e0ne: And we can still test it. Just not on every patch. 16:22:29 e0ne: :) 16:22:34 e0ne, :D 16:22:37 Or refactoring to have inheritance, since v1 is just a subset of v2 for the most part 16:23:33 scottda: Good point. And since v2 is also static, having it inherited where we can would help reduce a lot of code and hopefully duplication of test coverage. 16:23:35 and v3 a superset of v2 16:23:59 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1627921 16:23:59 Launchpad bug 1627921 in Cinder "clean up API versions" [Medium,Confirmed] 16:24:34 smcginnis: ++ 16:24:46 Another opportunity for someone looking for some work to pick up. 16:24:50 if something could be broken, it will be broken 16:25:46 e0ne: yeah, that's what tends to happen. But we can be a bit smarter are more targetted about when and where we test v1 16:25:47 True words 16:26:04 mtreinish: We could definitely test smarter. 16:26:18 mtreinish: it's a good idea 16:26:26 OK, anything else to discuss today? 16:26:43 Or everyone saving up for the PTG next week. 16:26:50 Any plans for a Cinder get together at the PTG? 16:26:57 OH, that's next week? 16:27:07 I thought it was the week after... dang it 16:27:08 jgriffith: :) 16:27:10 smcginnis: scottda eharney got your DND characters ready? ;) 16:27:13 have you discussed about the new cinder drivers? 16:27:17 :) 16:27:32 sivn_: Was there another topic? 16:27:38 eharney: I'll take that as a yes ;) 16:28:03 jungleboyj: I think we should try to get together. Tuesday night? 16:28:18 Tuesday is official event I think? 16:28:25 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409914/ 16:28:27 There is an official event? 16:28:30 not sure about the topic 16:28:31 There's a happy hour but we can do dinner after 16:29:02 Socializer is until 7. We could meet at 7:30 somewhere near by. 16:29:05 * dulek will be sleeping after 7 PM. ;) 16:29:20 dulek: I'm buying you redbull 16:29:22 what is the appropriate time for that please? to discuss about new cinder driver 16:29:33 diablo_rojo_phon: Okay, I'll try. :) 16:29:36 dulek: Oh, good point. Might be too soon for those travelling farther to have a late nigth. 16:29:55 sivn_: Is there something that needs to be discussed there? I'm missing something. 16:30:10 dulek: What about Wednesday nigth? 16:30:11 smcginnis: I was just kidding, don't mind me. 16:30:12 night 16:30:18 dulek: Hah, OK. 16:30:22 its pending code review 16:30:34 sivn_: Since we are close enough to Pike you can post the patch to start getting reviews. 16:30:38 sivn_: OK. Was there something to discuss? 16:30:55 sivn_: got a link? We can add it to the reviews etherpad so it gets some eyes. 16:31:04 I have already posted the path, want to get it reviewed 16:31:10 Link is above. 16:31:36 So should we target Tuesday night for a gathering? 16:31:36 diablo_rojo_phon: do we know when is pike-1 yet? 16:31:46 xyang1: They are finalizing the schedule. 16:31:51 ok 16:31:53 Should be fairly set at this point. 16:31:53 The proposed schedule was sent to the ml yesterday I beliwve 16:31:53 xyang1: They just published a proposed schedule. 16:32:00 It was. 16:32:04 Idk if the patch has been merged yet. 16:32:05 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425254/ 16:32:05 jungleboyj: where? 16:32:15 Is O.1 short cycle, too? 16:32:16 ^^ 16:32:24 Swanson: No, back to normalish. 16:32:40 * jungleboyj cheers! 16:32:54 xyang1: Looks like P-1 will likely be the week of April 10. 16:33:13 ok, thanks 16:33:53 April… I'll need to think of a patch for April Fools… 16:34:03 OK, we can pull together a gathering next week in the channel when we see how things end up. 16:34:06 dulek: ;) 16:34:09 dulek: +1 cheesecake v3 16:34:11 Anything else? 16:34:27 dulek: Steak V1 16:35:00 jungleboyj: I thought scottda requested filet mignon? 16:35:08 And I'll take that as a sign we've gone past the point of being productive. Thanks everyone. 16:35:13 That or pizza 16:35:30 #endmeeting