16:00:03 <smcginnis> #startmeeting Cinder
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16:00:18 <smcginnis> ping dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell stevemar watanabe.isao,tommylikehu
16:00:22 <geguileo> o/
16:00:22 <e0ne> hi
16:00:24 <smcginnis> mdovgal ildikov wxy viks ketonne abishop sivn
16:00:25 <xyang1> Hi
16:00:27 <patrickeast> Hi
16:00:27 <tommylikehu_> hi
16:00:28 <pots> o/
16:00:31 <smcginnis> Hey everyone
16:00:38 <wxy|> hi
16:00:42 <dulek> o/
16:00:49 <gouthamr> hi
16:01:03 <tbarron> hi
16:01:15 <Swanson> hi
16:01:22 <smcginnis> I hope everyone had a good trip back from the PTG.
16:01:36 <smcginnis> Thanks everyone who could attend.
16:01:44 <smcginnis> And those who couldn't - hopefully you can next time.
16:01:55 <smcginnis> #topic Announcements
16:02:12 <bswartz1> .o/
16:02:14 <smcginnis> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking Review focus
16:02:31 <smcginnis> We've updated the etherpad based on priorities discussed last week.
16:02:47 <smcginnis> Would be nice if we can make sure to get those new drivers feedback.
16:02:57 <smcginnis> I think still waiting for CI for most
16:03:09 <smcginnis> But right now - waiting for CI for almost everyone.
16:04:00 <xyang2> we are in the process of upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04
16:04:34 <smcginnis> xyang2: Great. Yeah, that one caught me off guard.
16:04:41 <jungleboyj> o/
16:04:51 <smcginnis> I know the plan was to get rid of trusty official support for OpenStack in this release.
16:05:06 <smcginnis> I just hadn't seen any announcements that devstack was going to cut it.
16:05:33 <smcginnis> One other thing related to the PTG...
16:05:46 <smcginnis> jungleboyj is working on summarizing all of the notes here:
16:05:54 <smcginnis> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderPikePTGSummary Pike PTG Summary
16:06:08 <smcginnis> We plan to capture the outcome of those in the wiki.
16:06:33 <diablo_rojo> smcginnis,  I was working on updating all the youtube video descriptions with their content and then was going to send an email out to those that couldn't attend the PTG.
16:06:35 <smcginnis> So hopefully there is less of an issue trying to track down etherpads months later to remember what we decided.
16:06:38 <xyang2> jungleboyj: can you add a link to it from the general cinder wiki?
16:06:49 <smcginnis> diablo_rojo: Awesome, that would be great!
16:07:01 <smcginnis> xyang2: It is: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder#PTG_and_Summit_Meeting_Summaries
16:07:13 <xyang2> smcginnis: cool
16:07:13 <diablo_rojo> smcginnis, posted etherpads in the descriptions too. That should go out today.
16:07:42 <jungleboyj> xyang2: It is already there at the bottom of the page.
16:08:02 <xyang2> jungleboyj: thanks
16:08:07 <jungleboyj> I am still working on getting the notes culled from the etherpad.  Plan to finish today.
16:08:08 <smcginnis> diablo_rojo: I wonder if we need a read-only copy of the etherpads for that.
16:08:11 <smcginnis> Guess we'll see.
16:08:43 <diablo_rojo> smcginnis, I had wondered about that myself. Not sure how to do that though. It is just the one notes etherpad though.
16:09:01 <smcginnis> Other than all that, I guess just getting caught up after last week.
16:09:07 <jungleboyj> I wanted to include video links with the summary.  Wiki won't let me link to youtube.  Still working on that.
16:09:11 <smcginnis> Anyone else have any topics that need discussion in the meeting?
16:09:46 <gouthamr> did we want to vote/decide on our third party CI changes?
16:10:12 <smcginnis> gouthamr: jgriffith was going to present a proposal, but he's had a vet issue come up this morning.
16:10:20 <jungleboyj> diablo_rojo: You know any way around that problem in the Wiki?
16:10:23 <smcginnis> I think we can wait until he's able to be here.
16:10:30 <gouthamr> sure thing smcginnis
16:11:32 <smcginnis> gouthamr: Thank you for the reminder though.
16:12:01 <smcginnis> Hopefully everyone is aware of changes to their CI runs.
16:12:14 <smcginnis> Devstack dropped support for 14.04, so if you have been using that, time to update.
16:12:17 <gouthamr> smcginnis: you're welcome.. it's more important now than before, because of these breakages in the past week :)
16:12:40 <smcginnis> Tempest plugins were broken. That fix has gone through, but may not be included in all outstanding patches.
16:12:46 <hemna> sup
16:12:46 <diablo_rojo> jungleboyj, off the top of my head no, but I would bet fungi would know if there was a way.
16:12:51 <smcginnis> gouthamr: Definitely. ;)
16:12:56 <jungleboyj> diablo_rojo: Ok.  Thank you.
16:13:23 <smcginnis> I think there was one other CI change causes a lot of issues for folks. Please make sure getting those things fixed a priority.
16:13:48 <smcginnis> Oh, Cinder deadlines have been added to the schedule:
16:13:53 <smcginnis> #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html Pike Schedule
16:14:03 <smcginnis> Pretty much the same as we have had the last few releases.
16:14:45 <smcginnis> Note - I state Wednesday as the deadline for those. I'd like to avoid last minute scrambles on the overall deadline day.
16:14:58 <fungi> diablo_rojo: jungleboyj: our spam filtering may be preventing saving content with links to youtube (sorry for the delay, since you didn't summarize the question it took a few minutes to parse it out of scrollback)
16:15:15 <smcginnis> fungi: Do shortened URLs work for that?
16:15:22 <jungleboyj> fungi: Sorry.  Yeah, that is what it is complaining about.
16:15:26 <fungi> the wiki is getting increasingly crippled to remove any features spammers might make use of
16:15:47 <fungi> no idea if url shorteners work, worth a try
16:16:03 <smcginnis> fungi: Thanks
16:16:06 <jungleboyj> fungi: Ok, I will try shortening the URL's and will ping you if I need more help.
16:16:26 <fungi> it may also have to do with the number of links added. how many links were in the page or were you trying to add?
16:16:33 <diablo_rojo> Thanks fungi :)
16:16:46 <fungi> i think most of the url filtering in there is focused on preventing spammers from setting up linkfarms to outside content
16:17:32 <smcginnis> Next PTG is planned the week of Sept 10th.
16:17:34 <jungleboyj> Ok.  *fingers crossed* a short google URL won't cause issues.
16:17:40 <smcginnis> Location still to be determined, right diablo_rojo?
16:17:52 <diablo_rojo> smcginnis, correct. Doing one last site visit
16:17:58 <smcginnis> Cool
16:18:02 <diablo_rojo> Should have a decision in two weeks at most
16:18:13 <diablo_rojo> We did announce the next Summit though :)
16:18:21 <smcginnis> Also announced, Summit location after Sydney is back to Vancouver.
16:18:22 <diablo_rojo> If anyone was on twitter and saw that
16:18:25 <smcginnis> ;)
16:18:28 <diablo_rojo> smcginnis, lol
16:18:28 <_alastor_> o/
16:18:31 <tbarron> not going to say where it is, eh?
16:18:32 <jungleboyj> :-)  Yay Vancouver!
16:18:46 <jungleboyj> tbarron: You are welcome.
16:18:48 <smcginnis> tbarron: It's one a need to know basis, and you don't need to knwo.
16:18:57 <smcginnis> :P
16:19:11 <tbarron> smcginnis: :P
16:19:12 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: Ooops, cat's out of the bag.
16:19:16 <diablo_rojo> tbarron, I like to tease :)
16:19:24 <fungi> it's more that they haven't _decided_ where the next ptg is. they're still negotiating with venues in multiple cities for that week
16:19:35 <dulek> It's Vancouver in May again. Last time locals said that we were pretty lucky with weather. I wonder how it will turn out this time. :)
16:19:56 <smcginnis> dulek: It was great last time. I'm looking forward to going again.
16:20:00 <jungleboyj> dulek: THink positive.
16:20:37 <smcginnis> Yeah, PTG down to two locations, but keeping it kind of quiet until it's more finalized.
16:20:56 <bswartz> still have boston and sydney to contend with first
16:21:12 <diablo_rojo> bswartz, correct :)
16:21:17 <diablo_rojo> Party at fenway!
16:21:21 <smcginnis> Sydney should be interesting. That's quite a trip for a lot of folks.
16:21:45 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: Again, think positive.  ;-)
16:21:56 <smcginnis> Yep
16:22:48 <smcginnis> Anything else to discuss? Or cut it short today?
16:23:29 <karthikp__> smcginnis: hi ..I needed to discuss to the generate matrix driver
16:23:30 <smcginnis> OK, thanks everyone.
16:23:40 <smcginnis> OK, just in time. :)
16:23:45 <karthikp__> :)
16:23:53 <smcginnis> #topic Driver support matrix
16:24:02 <smcginnis> karthikp__: The floor is all yours.
16:24:10 <karthikp__> Do we still have volume replica  in the matrix
16:24:26 <karthikp__> Or we decided to rule that out?
16:24:48 <karthikp__> Volume replication
16:25:22 <jungleboyj> Volume replication is in.
16:25:36 <jungleboyj> At least at the backend level.
16:26:40 <geguileo> yeah, I abandoned my patches for replication and active/active because we were going to include it in the matrix
16:26:49 <karthikp__> Because I saw gorka patch regarding support replication being abandoned
16:27:01 <smcginnis> That was just in the driver list.
16:27:35 <geguileo> karthikp__: I abandoned it because we dediced that we preferred it in the matrix
16:27:45 <geguileo> :''-(
16:27:58 <karthikp__> geguileo: can use the same approach in my driver matrix code then
16:28:16 <geguileo> karthikp__: yup
16:28:22 <Swanson> What makes anyone think they'll be able to get back into the US if they take a trip to Vancouver or Sydney?
16:28:40 <karthikp__> Cool ... Also are we reporting generic volumes groups support?
16:29:05 <Swanson> (Sorry, no politics.)
16:29:37 <xyang2> karthikp__: we should.  there's a default implementation for every driver
16:29:49 <jungleboyj> I am confused.  What was abandoned?
16:30:04 <geguileo> jungleboyj: my 2 patches that added more info to driver list
16:30:04 <smcginnis> Well, since there is a default implmentation, should we report it in the matrix? They would all be checked.
16:30:28 <karthikp__> smcginnis:  exactly thanks!
16:30:29 <geguileo> smcginnis: We can report which ones have an optimized one?
16:30:41 <smcginnis> geguileo: True
16:30:57 <smcginnis> karthikp__: Do you have the link to that patch?
16:31:08 <smcginnis> Those interested should review and comment there.
16:31:14 * smcginnis needs to take a look again
16:31:34 <jungleboyj> geguileo: Ah, ok.  THank you.
16:32:01 <karthikp__> Looking for it
16:33:43 <karthikp_> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371169/
16:34:27 <smcginnis> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371169/ Support matrix patch
16:34:28 <karthikp_> jungleboyj: smcginnis ^^
16:34:32 <smcginnis> karthikp__: Thanks!
16:34:46 <smcginnis> OK, anything else?
16:35:26 <smcginnis> Alright, thanks everyone!
16:35:35 <karthikp_> thanks all!
16:35:43 <smcginnis> #endmeeting