16:00:01 #startmeeting Cinder 16:00:02 Meeting started Wed Jul 5 16:00:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:05 The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' 16:00:08 ping dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor lhx_ baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov wxy 16:00:14 viks ketonne abishop 16:00:15 hi! o/ 16:00:23 hi 16:00:26 hi 16:00:30 It's Wednesday? Feels like Monday... 16:00:48 o/ 16:00:52 Hi 16:00:55 hi 16:01:02 scottda: It is rather disorienting. 16:01:14 scottda: Yeah, I'm all thrown off. 16:01:46 Alright - hey everyone. 16:01:50 Will be nice when the 4th is closer to a weekend again. 16:01:55 Hey! 16:02:02 Thanks jungleboyj for running the meetings the last couple weeks for me. 16:02:11 Really nice not to have to get up in the middle of the night. :) 16:02:20 And new appreciation for those that do to attend this. 16:02:25 smcginnis: Welcome. Did my best to fill your shoes. ;-) 16:02:34 #topic Announcements 16:03:02 We are three weeks from P-3! 16:03:03 https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html 16:03:16 As usual, the cycle is flying by. 16:03:24 <_alastor_> o/ 16:03:32 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking Review focus 16:03:50 o/ 16:03:50 I put the approved specs that were still in the works at the top there. ^^ 16:04:18 Most are in good shape (just waiting for final client patch), but a few... not so much. 16:04:39 First one there I think is from LisaLi. I haven't seen her around for quite a while. 16:04:53 Anyone know if she was affected by OSIC or related tuff? 16:04:56 *stuff 16:05:49 Well, there are a couple specs there that we might need to revert if they no longer have anyone driving them. 16:06:39 smcginnis: what specs do you mean? 16:07:34 Backup Service Enabled API, maybe Dynamic Reconfig, 16:07:37 I guess that's it. 16:07:49 The others are at least in progress. 16:08:23 tommylikehu: Chatted with me about the dynamic reconfig yesterday. 16:08:40 Sounds like much of the code is in place. The question is figuring out what is mutable and not. 16:08:59 Oh right, I saw a question in last weeks logs. 16:09:05 smcginnis: thanks. I'll try to find some time to take a look on a backup-related specs 16:09:06 Let me find a link quick. 16:09:15 Talk amongst yourselves. :) 16:09:17 Yeah. We have been working through that and updating the spec. 16:09:19 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350310/ 16:09:32 #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/cinder-specs/specs/pike/add-backup-capability.html 16:09:46 hey e0ne did you see that haircut smcginnis got? 16:10:04 jgriffith: no 16:10:09 jungleboyj I heard a rumor about smcginnis.... 16:10:21 LOL 16:10:22 jgriffith: ? 16:10:27 * jgriffith is talking amongst ourselves 16:10:41 like students in class talking about the teacher when he/she leaves the room 16:10:49 oh well... I thought it was funny 16:10:51 jgriffith: His hair is pretty much the same. I swear it never grows actually. 16:11:00 Looks like the link is messed up with the doc migration work. But here's a cached version showing what needs to be done for the config mutable-ness. 16:11:04 jgriffith: I laughed. 16:11:07 https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cTVZOOhnGp4J:https://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.config/mutable.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us 16:11:18 Sorry for those that can't use Google. 16:11:19 a good soldier should never look like they need a haircut or just got a haircut 16:11:21 jgriffith, we need photo link) 16:11:28 jgriffith, we need photo's link) 16:11:32 sorry 16:11:34 jgriffith: He is a good soldier! 16:11:38 :) 16:11:50 1 on the sides, 2 on the top. ;) 16:12:00 smcginnis indeed! 16:12:25 1'st and 15'th of each month 16:12:32 is there any photo? lol 16:12:48 sorry everyone, the haircut thing was a joke 16:13:00 jgriffith: Look what you've done! 16:13:00 not really saying there's anything about smcginnis 's haircut 16:13:02 * jungleboyj is laughing 16:13:05 i know... 16:13:07 :D 16:13:11 * jgriffith walks proudly 16:13:21 Hah 16:13:26 jgriffith, :( 16:13:37 Shoot. I had one more announcement thing but I can't remember now. 16:13:46 We can move on and see if it comes back to me. 16:13:48 * jgriffith 's work here is done 16:14:03 * jungleboyj is enjoying the train crash 16:14:04 class clowns never win 16:14:04 * smcginnis pictures jgriffith getting up and walking out like George Costanza 16:14:16 leave on a high note!! 16:14:25 diablo_rojo_phon: You around 16:14:36 actually it's more like "the jerk store called and they're running low on you" 16:14:41 Yeah. A bit :) 16:14:53 Not driving currently, but still en route. 16:15:24 diablo_rojo_phon: Able to talk to your agenda topic? 16:15:45 Which one? Dynamic reconfiguration? 16:15:59 * diablo_rojo_phon doesn't have the agenda open 16:16:04 diablo_rojo_phon: Config option consolidation. We can push it to next week. 16:16:37 Oh yeah still poking around. If we can't push it one more week I can have more concrete info. 16:16:47 diablo_rojo_phon: OK, let's wait then. 16:16:55 #topic Open discussion 16:16:57 Cool, thank you! 16:17:06 That was all on the official agenda. Anyone have anything else. 16:17:23 jgriffith: Want to give any attach updates? 16:17:31 smcginnis yes please... 16:17:47 smcginnis so there's one last thing holding us up now... 16:17:53 that's the whole shared-connection debate thing 16:18:14 if people have concerns here or use that model we REALLY need your help at this point 16:18:37 otherwise, we will assume everything works just like LVM and merge that version; if you're broken, you're broken 16:18:39 :) 16:18:45 This point equals NOW :) 16:19:01 Do we have tempest tests that go through the new path yet? 16:19:24 smcginnis getting close; but CI's wont' pick it up until nova merges 16:19:46 and we can't merge that until we know we don't break everyone... 16:19:47 so kinda.. well, ya know 16:20:01 Then probably good if we get that in soon enough to fix up any issues. 16:20:38 smcginnis: +1 16:20:42 that's actually not a bad way to look at it either 16:20:52 jgriffith: Can you use a cross-repo depends on tag to test the nova patch befor eit merges? 16:21:30 DuncanT yeah, we do that already, but that's not a requirement for CI and it doesn't matter because our CI's aren't running against nova patches 16:21:55 what I mean is that we have been doing cross-project depends on in the nova patch 16:21:56 jgriffith: Just post an empty cinder patch that depends on the nova patch, no? 16:22:00 DuncanT: Yeah, and I don't know if any third party CI is set up yet to handle cross repo dependencies correctly yet. 16:22:19 jgriffith: Ah, you're way ahead of me then, I'll ggo back to sleep :-) 16:22:22 DuncanT again, I don't think most of the 3'rd party systems do the cross-project checks, but we could try that 16:22:28 DuncanT: Hah 16:22:31 I guess there's one way to find out :) 16:22:49 but I thought people would care enough to look BEFORE we merged the nova changes :) 16:23:10 * DuncanT takes no responsibility for CI systems suffering fires, floods or plagues of locusts asa result 16:23:29 DuncanT sorry pal, we're holding you responsible for ALL THE THINGS 16:23:37 well, all the BAD things at least 16:24:11 One other thing on the Cinder side that's needed is this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480657/ 16:24:21 I think that's about all I have 16:24:27 ildikov anything else from your side? 16:24:29 jgriffith: Watching that one. 16:25:34 I think that's all 16:25:47 jgriffith, ildikov: Thanks! 16:25:59 I mean we need to fix the shared connection issue and if we choose to do that in the fire fighting way, then, oh well :) 16:26:29 In other words - storage vendors should really test this ASAP. :) 16:26:38 jgriffith, ildikov: Thanks for the update. 16:26:48 yep 16:26:51 smcginnis: tnx 16:26:57 I remembered what else I was going to say. 16:27:03 CFP for the Summit is open. 16:27:17 So if you have any ideas for interesting talks, submit them now. 16:27:26 I think that closes soon (next week?). 16:27:32 I don't have a link handy. 16:27:33 interesting to myself or others? 16:27:34 :) 16:27:46 jgriffith: Either works. ;) 16:27:52 haha! 16:28:06 PTG registration is also open: 16:28:08 #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/project-teams-gathering-denver-2017-tickets-33219389087 16:28:29 "Starting and training BLM adopted wild horses, do's and donts" 16:28:55 You might get a lot of curious people to attend that one. :D 16:29:05 It closes June 14th US time. Late in the day. 16:29:11 jungleboyj: Thanks! 16:29:35 June 14th? 3 weeks ago? 16:29:48 s/June/July/ 16:30:02 Two letters off. :0 16:30:16 DuncanT: Any chance of making it to either one for you? 16:30:22 which one closes on July 14th? PTG or Summit? 16:30:23 Sorry, July 14th. 16:30:28 Brain still on Holiday. 16:30:35 winston-d: Summit talk proposals. 16:30:42 smcginnis: thx 16:31:19 Hopefully we can get good turn out at the PTG. Be prepared with blood samples and passwords if you're entering the US. 16:31:32 * jungleboyj sighs 16:31:48 :( 16:31:55 smcginnis: did you get any trouble coming back? 16:32:12 xyang1: No, pretty easy for me. 16:32:29 I suppose I should keep my mouth shut to keep it that way. 16:32:33 I am surprised, his new haircut looks suspicious. 16:32:38 LOL 16:32:43 :) 16:32:59 OK, anything else productive to talk about today? 16:34:08 Alright, thanks everyone. 16:34:23 #endmeeting