16:00:23 <smcginnis> #startmeeting Cinder
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16:00:27 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'cinder'
16:00:43 <smcginnis> ping dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor lhx_ rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov wxy viks ketonne
16:00:49 <smcginnis> abishop sivn
16:00:59 <geguileo> hi! o/
16:01:01 <jungleboyj> @!
16:01:02 <patrickeast> Hi
16:01:02 <_pewp_> jungleboyj (^o^)/
16:01:03 <tommylikehu> hi
16:01:07 <wxy-> hi
16:01:16 <scottda> hi
16:01:19 <lhx_> hi!!
16:01:30 <xyang1> Hi
16:01:31 <e0ne> hi
16:01:38 <gouthamr> o/
16:01:59 <_pewp_> hemna ＼( ･_･)
16:02:02 <smcginnis> Hey all. Just waiting a couple minutes for fols to join.
16:02:42 <diablo_rojo_phon> Hello :)
16:03:02 <smcginnis> *folks
16:03:39 <smcginnis> #topic Announcements
16:04:13 <smcginnis> We are now past Feature Freeze, Soft String Freeze, and client freeze.
16:04:45 <smcginnis> So really we should just be focusing on bug fixes at this point and testing to make sure there are no regressions or critical things leading up to RC.
16:05:11 <lhx_> sorry, what's soft string?
16:05:30 <geguileo> smcginnis: I think our client's noauth using env variables is broken btw (have to double check)   :-(
16:06:01 <smcginnis> lhx_: It means we should not change any translatable strings (e.g. _('Exception message')) unless we absolutely have to.
16:06:22 <smcginnis> So the string freeze is to allow the i18n team a chance to catch up on translations before the release.
16:06:38 <lhx_> smcginnis, okay :)
16:06:50 <smcginnis> geguileo: We had a --profile change merge for the client. Could it have been that?
16:06:57 <smcginnis> I could have sworn it had been working.
16:07:08 <smcginnis> Maybe we need a job that tests that now that we have a few things using it.
16:07:13 <smcginnis> And it seems to break often.
16:07:18 <hemna> geguileo, it was working at one point
16:07:33 <geguileo> smcginnis: yup, I agree on everything you've said
16:07:51 <geguileo> Maybe it's my bad and I was using old code
16:07:55 <geguileo> Will double check
16:08:08 <smcginnis> geguileo: Well, if it's deemed critical we can ask for an exception, otherwise we may need to wait until after the freeze before we can get a fix out there.
16:08:24 <geguileo> ok
16:08:28 <smcginnis> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking Review focus
16:08:35 <smcginnis> I plan to go through that today. ^^
16:08:36 <geguileo> I'll check and open a bug if it's really broken
16:08:41 <smcginnis> geguileo: +1
16:09:02 <smcginnis> I think we made good progress through most of it. Anything else I will retarget or revert as needed.
16:09:20 <smcginnis> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/120479.html PTG info
16:09:31 <hemna> shouldn't all of the unmerged specs get pushed out?
16:10:01 <smcginnis> hemna: Yep, anything still under the Pike folder that has not merged should be updated to go under queens.
16:10:20 <smcginnis> Link above has a lot of good info for the PTG.
16:10:32 <smcginnis> Register if you plan on going as soon as you can.
16:10:48 <hemna> not going this time.
16:10:50 <smcginnis> If you need travel support, there are a few more days left to apply for that.
16:11:13 <smcginnis> hemna: Really? I was hoping with the new job that would make it better.
16:11:30 <hemna> yah, other stuff has come up, plus the entry fee and travel and all.
16:11:41 <smcginnis> Grr
16:11:48 * jungleboyj is sad
16:12:01 * hemna is bummed
16:12:11 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  Talked to hemna  about this last night.  I will work out streaming so he can join virtually.
16:12:11 <e0ne> hemna: :(
16:12:14 <jgriffith> hemna just come out for a fishing trip then :)
16:12:19 <hemna> :)
16:12:49 <smcginnis> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-queens Planning etherpad for PTG
16:13:04 <smcginnis> Well, whether you can go or not, please add any topics we should discuss to the etherpad.
16:13:16 <smcginnis> And add your name so we know who is going.
16:13:27 * lhx_ done
16:13:27 <smcginnis> Even if you are unsure, just note that next to your name so we know.
16:13:35 <smcginnis> lhx_: ;)
16:14:06 <smcginnis> Not a lot of topics out there so far, but I think we had the same thing last time.
16:14:42 <smcginnis> We do plan on going through Friday, but if we run out of things to discuss we can always do a hack day or try to work on some cross project items.
16:14:58 <jungleboyj> Docs!
16:14:59 <jungleboyj> :-)
16:15:24 <smcginnis> Actually...
16:15:28 <tommylikehu> 50% percents topics are from jungleboyj
16:15:40 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: Want to add a topic to give us a little education on docs there?
16:15:54 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: DocsMan Away!
16:16:23 <smcginnis> tommylikehu: Now he's going to be more than 50%. :D
16:16:39 <tommylikehu> smcginnis:  :)
16:16:50 <lhx_> tommylikehu, hah, 2/3 is real :D
16:16:53 <smcginnis> It's the jungleboyj show. :)
16:17:35 <smcginnis> Start thinking about Sydney too.
16:17:40 <Swanson> Hi.
16:17:57 <smcginnis> Swanson: A little tardy today.
16:18:10 * jungleboyj can't be a one man show.  ;-)
16:18:18 <smcginnis> Anyone know for sure they are going to Sydney?
16:18:19 <smcginnis> o/
16:18:29 <jungleboyj> Ok I have added the topic.  People, please add questions if you have them.
16:18:38 <jungleboyj> Sydney!
16:18:41 <jungleboyj> @!
16:18:41 <_pewp_> jungleboyj ＼(-_- )
16:18:55 <_alastor_> I'll be there
16:19:17 <diablo_rojo_phon> I'll be there ;)
16:19:47 <smcginnis> OK, at least a few of us then.
16:20:03 <smcginnis> #topic Open Discussion
16:20:13 <patrickeast> I'll be around in Sydney
16:20:16 <smcginnis> Nothing else on the agenda. Anyone have anything else to discuss?
16:20:35 * patrickeast is still mostly asleep
16:20:41 <smcginnis> hehe
16:20:52 <hemna> ok so what are we still merging at this point?
16:20:56 <hemna> just bug fixes?
16:21:10 <smcginnis> hemna: That really should be it.
16:21:20 <hemna> ok cool.   just wanted to be clear
16:21:21 <jungleboyj> hemna: ++
16:21:22 <smcginnis> Unless there is something important we decide to let through yet.
16:21:31 * lhx_ raise hand
16:21:34 <jungleboyj> And doc changes.
16:21:36 <jungleboyj> :-)
16:21:52 <smcginnis> lhx_: Did you have something?
16:22:01 <lhx_> could the drbd driver be used in product?
16:22:02 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: Any more docs changes outstandign?
16:22:15 <smcginnis> lhx_: You mean as far as packaged into a product that is sold?
16:22:15 <lhx_> anyone knows?
16:22:35 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: Yes, been pulled off to other stuff this week so it has slowed a bit.
16:22:47 <jungleboyj> More that we should get in before Pike is cut.
16:22:55 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: OK, I'll watch for them.
16:22:56 <clarkb> cinder consistently shows up in http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/data/integrated_gate.html as resetting the gate due to unittest failures
16:23:04 <clarkb> would be great if cinder could look into that
16:23:28 <smcginnis> Last I looked they were all different random stuff.
16:23:33 <geguileo> clarkb: is there a bug for that?
16:23:35 <hemna> I only see 2 in that list
16:23:55 <smcginnis> If anyone can spend some time going through that and looking for issues, might be a good way to mine for bug fixes. ^^
16:24:17 <clarkb> geguileo: no someone has to look into it and determine what bugs they are and possibly add e-r signature
16:24:32 <lhx_> smcginnis, I meant to ingrate drbd with lvm in product environment
16:24:46 <clarkb> geguileo: this is the we have failures but don't know what the bugs are list.
16:24:46 <geguileo> clarkb: But the bug report could be just what you said, that it's reseting it
16:24:48 <hemna> the cinder tox issue in that list is a failure to communicate with the ubuntu mirror for apt update.
16:24:57 <geguileo> clarkb: OK
16:25:15 <clarkb> geguileo: no we don't want that kind of bug its unspecific, instead we generate a list of the failures for you to help you dig in and find specifics
16:25:40 <clarkb> geguileo: basically this tool fills that use case, not the bug tracker
16:26:01 <geguileo> clarkb: OK, thanks
16:27:05 <smcginnis> #info Elastic recheck info could use someone looking through errors for bugs
16:27:21 <smcginnis> Anything else for today?
16:28:49 <hemna> each of those py27 failures are different
16:28:55 <hemna> :(
16:29:14 <smcginnis> hemna: That's what I saw last I looked. Not sure if there's anything more than random failures out there.
16:29:30 <hemna> a few are _notify events
16:29:33 <smcginnis> We do still have a notifier issue.
16:29:34 <hemna> but for different parts
16:29:37 <hemna> so...not sure
16:29:40 <smcginnis> hemna: Ha, yep.
16:29:50 <tommylikehu> hemna:  hah, notify events ..
16:29:50 <smcginnis> We need to find a better way to handle that I think.
16:30:15 <smcginnis> OK, if there is nothing else for the meeting we can get back over to -cinder.
16:30:20 <clarkb> considering that its three different cinder jobs and almost no other project even shows up on the list I doubt its random
16:31:01 <clarkb> (noav and neutron have like 3 fails total in unittests and that looks like it for unittests)
16:31:07 <lhx_> I just want to know if anyone used this driver?
16:31:08 <lhx_> https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/drivers/drbdmanagedrv.py
16:32:03 <smcginnis> lhx_: Yes, linbit maintains it and there is a CI job that runs for it.
16:32:44 <smcginnis> OK, thanks everyone.
16:32:49 <smcginnis> #endmeeting