16:00:47 <jungleboyj> #startmeeting cinder 16:00:48 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Dec 6 16:00:47 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:49 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:51 <smcginnis> o/ 16:00:52 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' 16:01:18 <jungleboyj> Courtesy ping: jungleboyj DuncanT diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr thingee erlon patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ aspiers jgriffith moshele hwalsh 16:01:21 <e0ne> hi 16:01:23 <tommylikehu> hey 16:01:31 <abishop> o/ 16:02:03 <jungleboyj> Guessing that this might be kind-of quiet given people are at kubecon. 16:02:25 <DuncanT> I wish I was at kubecon 16:02:31 <tommylikehu> jungleboyj: how many cinder guys are there 16:02:42 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: and jgriffith 16:02:49 <smcginnis> I've seen many familiar faces. 16:02:54 <walshh> Hi Helen here 16:03:05 <jungleboyj> walshh: Hey! Great to have you join us! 16:03:08 <tommylikehu> hi walshh 16:03:13 * smcginnis waves at walshh 16:03:15 <walshh> about time for me 16:03:29 <jungleboyj> walshh: I wasn't going to say it ... but yes. :-) 16:03:33 <walshh> Hope ye all enjoyed Sydney 16:03:45 <walshh> Wish I had been able to travel 16:03:53 <jungleboyj> We did. Wish you could have been there but looking forward to seeing you in Dublin. 16:04:01 * jungleboyj needs a tour guide. ;-) 16:04:02 <lhx_> hi all 16:04:23 <jungleboyj> lhx_: Welcome. 16:04:24 <walshh> I lived there for 2 years about 17 years ago 16:04:30 <walshh> I will need a tour guide 16:04:42 <lhx_> jungleboyj, thanks ;) 16:04:47 <jungleboyj> walshh: Ok, you can just join us for the fun then. 16:04:56 <jungleboyj> Ok, so lets get started. 16:05:07 <jungleboyj> #topic announcements 16:05:37 <jungleboyj> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking 16:06:05 <jungleboyj> We are coming up on the later part of the release so the review tracking becomes more important here. 16:06:31 <jungleboyj> If you have a spec that is in there and have reviews being put up, please update the list so we can be focusing on those reviews. 16:06:49 * abishop is adding his reviews 16:06:51 <jungleboyj> Would really like to be able to get the code to go with the specs in. 16:06:54 <jungleboyj> abishop: Thank you! 16:07:09 <jungleboyj> A reminder on the Queens schedule ... 16:07:15 <jungleboyj> Milestone 2 is tomorrow. 16:07:26 <jungleboyj> #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html 16:07:45 <jungleboyj> That leaves us with a month and a half until feature freeze. 16:08:03 <jungleboyj> With holidays and stuff that makes knowing what we are trying to get merged important. So, see request above. :-) 16:08:22 <jungleboyj> I am planning to propose the milestone 2 branch later this afternoon. 16:08:41 <jungleboyj> Any questions around all of that fun? 16:09:20 <Swanson> Hello. 16:09:22 <hemna_> mep 16:09:31 <jungleboyj> hemna_: There you go :-) 16:09:41 <jungleboyj> Moving on. 16:09:50 <jungleboyj> #topic Drivers Merged in Queens 16:10:11 <jungleboyj> Just wanted to note that we have gotten the DataCore and Inspur drivers merged for queens. 16:10:24 <jungleboyj> Thank you to everyone who did reviews and helped get those in place. 16:11:10 <jungleboyj> With watching CIs and stuff it takes a lot of work to guide those in. 16:11:21 <jungleboyj> Ok, so on to the rest of the agenda: 16:11:26 <jungleboyj> #topic Nominate volume bulk create for Spec Freeze Exception 16:11:32 <jungleboyj> walshh: and tommylikehu 16:11:48 <tommylikehu> jungleboyj: thanks 16:11:53 <e0ne> do we have implementation proposal? 16:12:06 <hemna_> so we are doing bulk create now? 16:12:20 <jungleboyj> hemna_: e0ne That is what this discussion is for. 16:12:29 <hemna_> oh :) 16:12:30 <e0ne> if there is a patch with implementation spec freeze exceptions could be reasonable 16:12:44 <tommylikehu> jungleboyj: we just wondering if we can give more time on this 16:13:24 <tommylikehu> e0ne: I guess walshh is working on this these days 16:13:51 <jungleboyj> So, first question is based the notes from Denver: 16:13:53 <erlon> hey 16:13:56 <jungleboyj> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderQueensPTGSummary#Discuss_Bulk_Volume_Create 16:13:57 <e0ne> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514196/ 16:14:34 <jungleboyj> Has the Nova team been approached about adding Bulk Attach to the API? 16:15:15 <walshh> Matt Riedemann has commented on the review and is not prepared to support bulk attaches at this point 16:15:15 <tommylikehu> walshh: can you share the progress you have made with Nova? 16:16:41 <jungleboyj> walshh: Ok, so I think that ends up being a non-starter for us at this point based on the discussion we had in Denver. 16:17:28 <jungleboyj> jgriffith: Had some strong feelings about that being required for this to move forward. 16:18:46 <jungleboyj> Unfortunately he is not here. 16:18:52 <tommylikehu> jungleboyj: understood 16:19:09 <jungleboyj> So, tommylikehu walshh What is the urgency for getting this in for Queens? 16:19:29 <walshh> I was initially thinking Rockies timeframe 16:19:48 <jungleboyj> walshh: As was I, at best. 16:20:03 <walshh> I just don't know will we get the nova buy in 16:20:13 <walshh> even in Rockies 16:20:21 <jungleboyj> tommylikehu: So, why the push for Queens? 16:20:43 <jungleboyj> walshh: If there is not bulk attach what is the use case? 16:20:55 <tommylikehu> jungleboyj: I just want to get more team's attention on this 16:21:20 <jungleboyj> tommylikehu: Fair enough, but don't need a freeze exception for that. :-) 16:21:47 <tommylikehu> jungleboyj: and would like to help on this feature if we have the chance to have this feature approved 16:21:51 <tommylikehu> jungleboyj: ok 16:22:01 <jungleboyj> Understood. 16:22:29 <jungleboyj> So here is my proposal ... I think that walshh has been making good progress on the spec. 16:22:42 <jungleboyj> e0ne: Notes that it might help to see code associated with this. 16:22:52 <jungleboyj> I agree. 16:23:15 <jungleboyj> I feel that walshh 's target for Rockie is more appropriate. 16:23:21 <walshh> I have a POC started, but I will need to amend bases on Tommy's feedback 16:23:30 <jungleboyj> walshh: Cool. 16:23:31 <walshh> based* 16:23:33 <jungleboyj> Link? 16:23:55 <e0ne> walshh: any early PoC on the gerrit will be very helpful 16:24:00 <walshh> not submitted yet, but I can get it there soon 16:24:09 <jungleboyj> walshh: Cool. 16:24:50 <jungleboyj> Lets get those pieces in place and then plan a cross project meeting with Nova in Dublin to see if we can make progress there. 16:25:05 <jungleboyj> I know they aren't going to consider anything right now. 16:25:09 <e0ne> jungleboyj: +1, sounds reasonable 16:25:49 <jungleboyj> Depending on how that discussion goes we can readdress if we are going to move on this for the R release. 16:26:04 <jungleboyj> That sound good for everyone? 16:26:09 <tommylikehu> jungleboyj: fair enough 16:26:26 <walshh> Sounds good to me 16:26:36 <jungleboyj> #action walshh to continue to respond to comments on the spec 16:26:48 <jungleboyj> #action walshh to put up a PoC of the code for Cinder 16:26:57 <jungleboyj> #action team to review and comment 16:27:13 <tommylikehu> jungleboyj: thanks! 16:27:16 <jungleboyj> #action jungleboyj to schedule cross-project session with Nova in Dublin on this. 16:27:29 <jungleboyj> tommylikehu: No problem. 16:27:40 <jungleboyj> We will keep this moving but don't need a spec freeze for it. 16:28:02 <jungleboyj> walshh: Once we start R you will need to move the spec forward to there. 16:28:18 <walshh> ok, will do 16:28:26 <jungleboyj> :-) Cool. 16:28:29 <e0ne> I think, we can start accept specs for R starting tomorrow 16:28:40 <jungleboyj> e0ne: Oh, good point. 16:28:53 <jungleboyj> Once we close out Q. I think you are right. 16:29:10 <tommylikehu> e0ne: that's great! 16:29:14 <smcginnis> Yeah, no reason we can't get those going already. 16:29:24 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: Good. Thanks for the input. 16:29:51 <jungleboyj> Anything else on this topic? 16:30:36 <jungleboyj> #topic Open Discussion 16:30:46 <jungleboyj> Anything else we need to discuss today? 16:31:56 <e0ne> #link https://review.openstack.org/526120 :) 16:32:18 <e0ne> I hope, CI will pass in this ^^ 16:32:18 <jungleboyj> e0ne: Nice. 16:32:19 <tommylikehu> e0ne: lol 16:32:23 <jungleboyj> Thank you. 16:32:41 <jungleboyj> Was going to go look at doing that but now I don't need to. :-) 16:33:03 <e0ne> jungleboyj: :) 16:33:40 <e0ne> smcginnis, jungleboyj: do you know anything about Rocky schedule? 16:33:55 <jungleboyj> It should be out there. Hold on. 16:34:23 <smcginnis> e0ne: I don't think everything is finalized yet, but should be soon. 16:34:37 <e0ne> smcginnis: ok, thanks 16:34:39 <jungleboyj> Hmmm yeah, not there yet. 16:35:01 <jungleboyj> I will let everyone here know when it is out. 16:36:24 <jungleboyj> Ok. If there is nothing else we can wrap up. 16:36:35 <e0ne> see you next week 16:37:03 <jungleboyj> Yep. Thank you everyone for coming and for your work on Cinder! 16:37:11 <jungleboyj> #endmeeting