16:00:47 #startmeeting cinder 16:00:48 Meeting started Wed Dec 6 16:00:47 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:49 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:51 o/ 16:00:52 The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' 16:01:18 Courtesy ping: jungleboyj DuncanT diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr thingee erlon patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ aspiers jgriffith moshele hwalsh 16:01:21 hi 16:01:23 hey 16:01:31 o/ 16:02:03 Guessing that this might be kind-of quiet given people are at kubecon. 16:02:25 I wish I was at kubecon 16:02:31 jungleboyj: how many cinder guys are there 16:02:42 smcginnis: and jgriffith 16:02:49 I've seen many familiar faces. 16:02:54 Hi Helen here 16:03:05 walshh: Hey! Great to have you join us! 16:03:08 hi walshh 16:03:13 * smcginnis waves at walshh 16:03:15 about time for me 16:03:29 walshh: I wasn't going to say it ... but yes. :-) 16:03:33 Hope ye all enjoyed Sydney 16:03:45 Wish I had been able to travel 16:03:53 We did. Wish you could have been there but looking forward to seeing you in Dublin. 16:04:01 * jungleboyj needs a tour guide. ;-) 16:04:02 hi all 16:04:23 lhx_: Welcome. 16:04:24 I lived there for 2 years about 17 years ago 16:04:30 I will need a tour guide 16:04:42 jungleboyj, thanks ;) 16:04:47 walshh: Ok, you can just join us for the fun then. 16:04:56 Ok, so lets get started. 16:05:07 #topic announcements 16:05:37 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking 16:06:05 We are coming up on the later part of the release so the review tracking becomes more important here. 16:06:31 If you have a spec that is in there and have reviews being put up, please update the list so we can be focusing on those reviews. 16:06:49 * abishop is adding his reviews 16:06:51 Would really like to be able to get the code to go with the specs in. 16:06:54 abishop: Thank you! 16:07:09 A reminder on the Queens schedule ... 16:07:15 Milestone 2 is tomorrow. 16:07:26 #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html 16:07:45 That leaves us with a month and a half until feature freeze. 16:08:03 With holidays and stuff that makes knowing what we are trying to get merged important. So, see request above. :-) 16:08:22 I am planning to propose the milestone 2 branch later this afternoon. 16:08:41 Any questions around all of that fun? 16:09:20 Hello. 16:09:22 mep 16:09:31 hemna_: There you go :-) 16:09:41 Moving on. 16:09:50 #topic Drivers Merged in Queens 16:10:11 Just wanted to note that we have gotten the DataCore and Inspur drivers merged for queens. 16:10:24 Thank you to everyone who did reviews and helped get those in place. 16:11:10 With watching CIs and stuff it takes a lot of work to guide those in. 16:11:21 Ok, so on to the rest of the agenda: 16:11:26 #topic Nominate volume bulk create for Spec Freeze Exception 16:11:32 walshh: and tommylikehu 16:11:48 jungleboyj: thanks 16:11:53 do we have implementation proposal? 16:12:06 so we are doing bulk create now? 16:12:20 hemna_: e0ne That is what this discussion is for. 16:12:29 oh :) 16:12:30 if there is a patch with implementation spec freeze exceptions could be reasonable 16:12:44 jungleboyj: we just wondering if we can give more time on this 16:13:24 e0ne: I guess walshh is working on this these days 16:13:51 So, first question is based the notes from Denver: 16:13:53 hey 16:13:56 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderQueensPTGSummary#Discuss_Bulk_Volume_Create 16:13:57 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514196/ 16:14:34 Has the Nova team been approached about adding Bulk Attach to the API? 16:15:15 Matt Riedemann has commented on the review and is not prepared to support bulk attaches at this point 16:15:15 walshh: can you share the progress you have made with Nova? 16:16:41 walshh: Ok, so I think that ends up being a non-starter for us at this point based on the discussion we had in Denver. 16:17:28 jgriffith: Had some strong feelings about that being required for this to move forward. 16:18:46 Unfortunately he is not here. 16:18:52 jungleboyj: understood 16:19:09 So, tommylikehu walshh What is the urgency for getting this in for Queens? 16:19:29 I was initially thinking Rockies timeframe 16:19:48 walshh: As was I, at best. 16:20:03 I just don't know will we get the nova buy in 16:20:13 even in Rockies 16:20:21 tommylikehu: So, why the push for Queens? 16:20:43 walshh: If there is not bulk attach what is the use case? 16:20:55 jungleboyj: I just want to get more team's attention on this 16:21:20 tommylikehu: Fair enough, but don't need a freeze exception for that. :-) 16:21:47 jungleboyj: and would like to help on this feature if we have the chance to have this feature approved 16:21:51 jungleboyj: ok 16:22:01 Understood. 16:22:29 So here is my proposal ... I think that walshh has been making good progress on the spec. 16:22:42 e0ne: Notes that it might help to see code associated with this. 16:22:52 I agree. 16:23:15 I feel that walshh 's target for Rockie is more appropriate. 16:23:21 I have a POC started, but I will need to amend bases on Tommy's feedback 16:23:30 walshh: Cool. 16:23:31 based* 16:23:33 Link? 16:23:55 walshh: any early PoC on the gerrit will be very helpful 16:24:00 not submitted yet, but I can get it there soon 16:24:09 walshh: Cool. 16:24:50 Lets get those pieces in place and then plan a cross project meeting with Nova in Dublin to see if we can make progress there. 16:25:05 I know they aren't going to consider anything right now. 16:25:09 jungleboyj: +1, sounds reasonable 16:25:49 Depending on how that discussion goes we can readdress if we are going to move on this for the R release. 16:26:04 That sound good for everyone? 16:26:09 jungleboyj: fair enough 16:26:26 Sounds good to me 16:26:36 #action walshh to continue to respond to comments on the spec 16:26:48 #action walshh to put up a PoC of the code for Cinder 16:26:57 #action team to review and comment 16:27:13 jungleboyj: thanks! 16:27:16 #action jungleboyj to schedule cross-project session with Nova in Dublin on this. 16:27:29 tommylikehu: No problem. 16:27:40 We will keep this moving but don't need a spec freeze for it. 16:28:02 walshh: Once we start R you will need to move the spec forward to there. 16:28:18 ok, will do 16:28:26 :-) Cool. 16:28:29 I think, we can start accept specs for R starting tomorrow 16:28:40 e0ne: Oh, good point. 16:28:53 Once we close out Q. I think you are right. 16:29:10 e0ne: that's great! 16:29:14 Yeah, no reason we can't get those going already. 16:29:24 smcginnis: Good. Thanks for the input. 16:29:51 Anything else on this topic? 16:30:36 #topic Open Discussion 16:30:46 Anything else we need to discuss today? 16:31:56 #link https://review.openstack.org/526120 :) 16:32:18 I hope, CI will pass in this ^^ 16:32:18 e0ne: Nice. 16:32:19 e0ne: lol 16:32:23 Thank you. 16:32:41 Was going to go look at doing that but now I don't need to. :-) 16:33:03 jungleboyj: :) 16:33:40 smcginnis, jungleboyj: do you know anything about Rocky schedule? 16:33:55 It should be out there. Hold on. 16:34:23 e0ne: I don't think everything is finalized yet, but should be soon. 16:34:37 smcginnis: ok, thanks 16:34:39 Hmmm yeah, not there yet. 16:35:01 I will let everyone here know when it is out. 16:36:24 Ok. If there is nothing else we can wrap up. 16:36:35 see you next week 16:37:03 Yep. Thank you everyone for coming and for your work on Cinder! 16:37:11 #endmeeting