16:00:28 <jungleboyj> #startmeeting Cinder
16:00:29 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jul 11 16:00:28 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:00:33 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'cinder'
16:00:38 <jungleboyj> courtesy ping:  jungleboyj DuncanT diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr thingee erlon tpsilva patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ aspiers jgriffith moshele hwalsh felipemonteiro lpetrut lseki _alastor_
16:00:44 <e0ne> hi
16:00:46 <tommylikehu> hello
16:00:46 <erlon_> Heu
16:00:49 <rajinir> hi
16:00:49 <geguileo> hi! o/
16:00:51 <walshh> hi
16:00:56 <erlon_> Hey
16:00:57 <eharney> hi
16:01:03 <jungleboyj> @!
16:01:04 <_pewp_> jungleboyj (ஐ╹◡╹)ノ
16:01:13 <jungleboyj> Welcome, welcome to everyone.
16:01:27 <xyang> hi
16:01:37 <tbarron> hi
16:01:50 <jungleboyj> Give people another second to gather.
16:02:30 <jungleboyj> Well, it looks like we have the usual suspects so I will get started.
16:02:36 <jungleboyj> #topic announcements
16:02:54 <jungleboyj> First, thanks to smcginnis_afk for covering meetings the last couple of weeks.
16:03:10 <jungleboyj> Now I am back and he is away.  :-)
16:03:43 <jungleboyj> I have gotten an etherpad together for planning the PTG.
16:03:48 <jungleboyj> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-planning-denver-9-2018
16:04:10 <jungleboyj> Please take a few minutes to add topics when you have a chance.  I have already put a couple of things in there.
16:04:34 <kien-ha> hi
16:04:38 <jungleboyj> Also, if anyone hasn't gotten a hotel room and/or tickets make sure to do so.
16:04:53 <jungleboyj> I think the prices go up again and they have a limited number of rooms in the hotel block.
16:05:31 <jungleboyj> Last reminder is that we are coming down towards the end of the release so please try to get patches wrapped up .
16:05:41 <jungleboyj> Reviewers remember that the runway is shortening.
16:06:17 <jungleboyj> I have been doing my best keeping up but would appreciate anyone else who can make time for reviews.
16:06:31 <jungleboyj> I think that is all I have for announcements.
16:06:40 * ganso sneaks in
16:06:44 <jungleboyj> #topic Rocky Priorities Review
16:06:54 * jungleboyj hands ganso a tardy slip.
16:07:36 <jungleboyj> So, first thing on Rocky items is that I have pushed up a patch for the new non-wiki based support matrix:
16:07:52 <jungleboyj> #link  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580757/
16:08:12 <jungleboyj> I have done my bet to get accurate info for each driver but would appreciate people's eyes on it.
16:08:18 <jungleboyj> Let me know if you find issues.
16:08:27 <eharney> do we really need a big section listing drivers that support "create volume"? :)
16:08:43 <e0ne> :)
16:08:47 <jungleboyj> :-)  Well, that is a good question.
16:09:05 <eharney> i think that's a pre-requisite for.. anything
16:09:12 <jungleboyj> We could simplify it and just list all the things that everyone supports and slim it down to just the optional things.
16:09:36 <jungleboyj> It would make the matrix easier to read and maintain.
16:11:11 <jungleboyj> So, take a look and please make comments.  I will try to get changes pushed up quick as I would like to get that in for this release.
16:11:43 <jungleboyj> I had a couple of questions:
16:11:56 <jungleboyj> e0ne:  Is the Generic Backup work going to slip to Stein?
16:12:09 <e0ne> jungleboyj: unfortunately, yes:(
16:12:43 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Bummer.  Looks like you put in a placeholder to get ready to move that to Stein.
16:12:44 <e0ne> I won't be able to finish it with an acceptable quality in Rocku
16:13:02 <e0ne> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581783/
16:13:19 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Best to wait then.
16:13:19 <e0ne> ^^ here is a patch to move a spec to Stein
16:13:32 <jungleboyj> e0ne:  Thanks.
16:13:39 <jungleboyj> Is tommylikehu here?
16:13:58 <tommylikehu> yeah
16:14:07 <jungleboyj> Is the change to Update Backup's size when it is created going to slip?
16:14:17 <tommylikehu> yeah:)
16:14:41 <tommylikehu> I submitted the patch to move it into stein
16:14:45 <jungleboyj> Ok.
16:14:50 <jungleboyj> Link ?
16:15:21 <tommylikehu> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575280/
16:15:32 <jungleboyj> tommylikehu:  Thank you!
16:16:17 <jungleboyj> Last note on Rocky work is to hold off on the privsep patches as there are concerns with any long running commands blocking all of Cinder.
16:16:24 <jungleboyj> eharney:  Raised this concern.
16:16:34 <jungleboyj> I have added discussion for at the PTG.
16:16:36 <eharney> i'll write up something on this (and likely start working on fixing it)
16:16:48 <jungleboyj> eharney:  That would be awesome!
16:17:06 <tommylikehu> eharney:  thanks!
16:18:10 <jungleboyj> Cool.  So that covers the Rocky work I think.  Anyone else have comments.
16:19:23 <jungleboyj> #topic HA development check in.
16:19:33 <jungleboyj> geguileo:  *nudge nudge*
16:19:37 <jungleboyj> Anything to share?
16:19:37 <e0ne> :)
16:20:03 <jungleboyj> I shouldn't poke, I haven't had a chance to look at the patch yet.  I will do that.
16:20:10 <jungleboyj> Hope others can do the same.
16:20:30 <jungleboyj> Looks like we lost geguileo  though.
16:20:42 <geguileo> I'm back
16:20:47 <jungleboyj> Yay!
16:21:09 <geguileo> I have to make some modifications to the patch that are in the reviews
16:21:10 <jungleboyj> geguileo:  Anything else to share?
16:21:18 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Cool.
16:21:27 <geguileo> nothing else to add
16:21:36 <jungleboyj> Okie Dokie.
16:22:21 <jungleboyj> Last  ...
16:22:29 <jungleboyj> #topic Storyboard Migration
16:22:45 <jungleboyj> Just a check to see if anyone else has had a chance to look at the test migration?
16:23:16 <jungleboyj> Guessing that is crickets I hear.
16:23:25 <eharney> where is it?
16:23:38 <jungleboyj> tbarron:  You made any progress with Manila ?
16:23:53 <jungleboyj> #link https://storyboard-dev.openstack.org/#!/project_group/55
16:24:04 <eharney> jungleboyj: that doesn't appear to exist
16:24:09 <jungleboyj> I also keep it at the head of the weekly meeting etherpad.
16:24:14 <jungleboyj> Seriously?
16:24:19 <tbarron> jungleboyj: I don't want to move ahead on manila until storyboard will allow attachment upload
16:24:44 <tbarron> jungleboyj: that's a deal-breaker for me atm and the storyboard folks know it
16:24:53 <jungleboyj> eharney:  Looks like it disappeared again.
16:25:04 <jungleboyj> This happened with the last one diablo_rojo_phon  made as well.
16:25:11 <jungleboyj> I will follow up with her.
16:25:29 <jungleboyj> tbarron:  Any eta on that function?
16:25:37 <tbarron> jungleboyj: we can't require bug reporters to know what are the relevant log snippets and cut and paste them
16:25:53 <tbarron> jungleboyj: not that I know of but they did register the concern as legit
16:26:27 <jungleboyj> Ok.  That is good.
16:26:48 <jungleboyj> Do you have a test migration out there that has survived>
16:27:11 <jungleboyj> tbarron:  ^^
16:27:54 <eharney> do we have bugs currently on cinder that have files attached?  do they disappear when we migrate?
16:29:33 <jungleboyj> eharney:  Not sure.  Need to take a look.
16:29:47 <eharney> there's https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+patches which shows a few but i'm not sure how to search for all files
16:30:29 <jungleboyj> eharney:  Not sure either.
16:31:49 <jungleboyj> So, I guess the path forward is to get the test migration going again and start looking at those details.
16:32:37 <jungleboyj> I will let people know when the migration is up.
16:32:59 <jungleboyj> Any other thoughts there?
16:34:06 <jungleboyj> I am taking that as a no.  I will get updates out as I get them.
16:34:19 <jungleboyj> #topic Open Discussion
16:34:31 <jungleboyj> Anyone have other topics?
16:36:46 <jungleboyj> Very quiet.
16:37:37 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Sorry, I was little distracted.  Getting my boys dropped off.
16:38:04 <jungleboyj> eharney:  Was there anything more you wanted to say on StoryBoard or tbarron  ?
16:38:20 <eharney> nothing other than the usual complaint about random number urls :)
16:38:48 <jungleboyj> eharney:  I hate that!  It makes no sense.  Don't understand why we can't make a link or something.
16:39:11 <tbarron> jungleboyj: test migration is there and I think surviving
16:39:27 <diablo_rojo_phon> There are patches out to fix that-the URLs being human readable.
16:39:36 <jungleboyj> diablo_rojo_phon:  Yay!
16:39:37 <tbarron> jungleboyj: sorry, dealing with a cust. issue at same time
16:40:05 <jungleboyj> tbarron:  No problem.
16:40:20 <jungleboyj> diablo_rojo_phon:  Any idea why the Cinder migration looks like it disappeared again?
16:41:00 <jungleboyj> I thought I had updated the link in the etherpad.
16:42:04 <diablo_rojo_phon> It doesn't happen in the production environment just the Dev environment. Haven't had time to look into what's causing it yet.
16:42:26 <diablo_rojo_phon> And it's not may cinder is disappearing
16:42:37 <diablo_rojo_phon> All the repos are still there
16:42:43 <jungleboyj> diablo_rojo_phon:  Ok.  Understood.  If you can respin at some point that would be good.
16:42:46 <diablo_rojo_phon> It's just the project group association.
16:42:56 <jungleboyj> Oh, ok.
16:43:12 <diablo_rojo_phon> If you search for cinder all the repos still exist :)
16:43:41 <jungleboyj> Interesting.
16:44:01 <diablo_rojo_phon> And from what I understand it still exists in the dB for the Dev environment
16:44:10 <diablo_rojo_phon> It's just not showing in the UI
16:45:31 <jungleboyj> That is odd.  Well, let us know if you guys figure it out.
16:46:23 <jungleboyj> diablo_rojo_phon:  Oh, I see that I can search for Cinder.  Ok.  That will help me make progress at least.
16:47:30 <jungleboyj> Ok, so if others want to look around that is how you can find Cinder.  :-)
16:47:42 <jungleboyj> Where oh where has my Cinder go, Where oh where can it be?
16:47:52 <diablo_rojo_phon> It never left :)
16:47:59 <jungleboyj> Ok, I think that is all we have for today.
16:48:06 <jungleboyj> diablo_rojo_phon:  It was just hiding.
16:48:54 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Thank you to everyone for joining!
16:48:57 <diablo_rojo_phon> Indeed :)
16:49:14 <jungleboyj> Keep up the good work.
16:49:24 <jungleboyj> Please help review and I will talk to you all next week!
16:49:37 <jungleboyj> #endmeeting