16:00:39 <jungleboyj> #startmeeting Cinder
16:00:39 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Aug  1 16:00:39 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:00:42 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'cinder'
16:01:05 <smcginnis> o/
16:01:07 <jungleboyj> courtesy ping jungleboyj DuncanT diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne
16:01:09 <geguileo> hi! o/
16:01:19 <e0ne> hi
16:01:26 <tbarron> hi
16:01:30 <xyang> hi
16:01:33 <abishop> o/
16:01:38 <walshh_> hi
16:01:38 <geguileo> rofl did he just get kicked for Spamming the channel?
16:02:01 <e0ne> :)
16:02:10 <tbarron> happened to me last week when I did courtesy ping for manila mtg
16:02:13 <smcginnis> I have leaves suppressed. Who got kicked?
16:02:27 <tommylikehu> me
16:02:34 <erlon> hey
16:02:37 <smcginnis> Jay apparently. :)
16:02:39 <abishop> our fearless PTL
16:02:41 <e0ne> smcginnis: "[19:01:07] 	jungleboyj (sid96736@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fipmcflaaneoxfgc) left IRC. (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))"
16:02:41 <geguileo> smcginnis: jungleboyj
16:03:34 <tbarron> and I warned jungleboyj then that Sigyn doesn't like the courtesy ping
16:03:37 <smcginnis> Got a message he's trying to get back on.
16:03:47 <jaypipes> I'll be your Hucklejay.
16:03:56 <erlon> jungleboyj, have you refreshed the ping list?
16:03:57 <tbarron> hah
16:04:05 <smcginnis> Jay substitution!
16:04:43 <smcginnis> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-rocky-meeting-agendas Agenda
16:05:37 <smcginnis> Guess we can't change topics or anything, but we can at least get the conversation going.
16:05:46 <smcginnis> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-planning-denver-9-2018
16:06:12 <smcginnis> Looks like we have some good topics added so far.
16:06:26 <e0ne> +1
16:06:50 <smcginnis> Please add your name to the attendee list if you plan on being there.
16:07:11 <smcginnis> If you can't attend in person but hope to do so remotely, I think we will probably be able to stream again.
16:07:24 <smcginnis> Just add your name and note (remote) next to it or something.
16:07:52 <smcginnis> And if there is a particular topic you want to be a part of remotely, put that under the topic and we can try to ping you before we start talking about it.
16:08:02 <smcginnis> Assuming we don't all get kicked off of IRC by then. :)
16:08:23 <tommylikehu> smcginnis:  how about phone call if the remote attendee is sleeping
16:08:41 <smcginnis> :)
16:10:09 <smcginnis> Good list of attendees. I'm glad to see that.
16:10:45 <jsbryant> Hi all, I am temporarily back
16:10:51 <jsbryant> I am sure you are all laughing at me.
16:10:53 <smcginnis> Who are you? :P
16:11:04 * jsbryant is jungleboyj
16:11:10 <e0ne> :)
16:11:15 <smcginnis> How do we know it's really you?
16:11:15 * jsbryant is also feeling like a moron
16:11:19 <tommylikehu> :)
16:11:36 <abishop> jsbryant: for the record, yes, we were :-)
16:11:44 <smcginnis> jsbryant: I just went over the PTG etherpad.
16:11:57 <jsbryant> I have sent an e-mail asking they fix my other user name.  Hopefully it is fixed so that I can end the meeting at the end.
16:12:05 <jsbryant> Awesome.
16:12:27 <smcginnis> I've been told after 30 minutes someone else can do it.
16:12:29 <ilbelkyr> jsbryant: check the auto-reply, in that case :)
16:12:52 <ilbelkyr> or, actually
16:13:18 <jsbryant> So, moving on.
16:13:27 <jsbryant> Any thoughts on the PTG etherpad?
16:13:45 <smcginnis> I think it looks good. :)
16:14:00 <jsbryant> Agreed.  I have added some topics in there.
16:14:08 <jsbryant> We are up to 12 people which is good.
16:14:21 <jsbryant> I am probably not going to be able to be there until mid morning Monday.
16:16:19 <jgriffith> jsbryant: link?
16:16:33 <jgriffith> etherpad that is
16:16:34 <smcginnis> jgriffith: This one? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-planning-denver-9-2018
16:16:39 <jgriffith> smcginnis: tahnks
16:16:41 <jgriffith> thanks
16:16:54 <jsbryant> smcginnis, Thanks
16:17:10 <jsbryant> Anyone have other topics to propose now?
16:17:56 <jungleboyj> And I am back!
16:18:09 <jungleboyj> #topic Announcements
16:18:21 <jungleboyj> ilbelkyr:  Thank you, thank you , thank you!
16:18:49 <jungleboyj> Ok. so moving on since it doesn't seem others have more to say now.
16:19:22 <jungleboyj> Rocky Schedule ...
16:19:40 <jungleboyj> #link https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html
16:19:50 <jungleboyj> We have passed feature freeze.
16:20:02 <jungleboyj> We need to be getting bug fixes merged now.
16:20:09 <jungleboyj> I know there are a number out there that I need to review.
16:20:17 <jungleboyj> Going to try to make more time for that today.
16:20:26 <jungleboyj> We will be cutting RC-1 next week.
16:20:40 <jungleboyj> Should shoot for Wednesday 8/8 .
16:20:46 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  That make sense?
16:20:59 <smcginnis> Yep, good plan.
16:21:16 <jungleboyj> Excellent.
16:21:53 <jungleboyj> We have spun a new python-cinderclient as we had a bug that broke Horizon and the volume_transfer functions.
16:22:25 <jungleboyj> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587601/
16:22:48 <jungleboyj> So, that is the news there.
16:22:55 <jungleboyj> As far as releases are concerned.
16:23:13 <jungleboyj> One last announcement.  So, the PTL election has happend.
16:23:43 <jungleboyj> Or nomination have closed and I was the only one nominated so I guess you don't mind me continuing as PTL.
16:23:47 <smcginnis> I demand a recount!
16:23:51 <smcginnis> :P
16:24:03 <jungleboyj> Ha, you want to take back over?
16:24:09 <e0ne> :)
16:24:19 <e0ne> jungleboyj: thank you for serving this role!
16:24:38 <jungleboyj> e0ne:  You are welcome.  Glad to help out.
16:25:15 <jungleboyj> So, I will say thanks for the continued vote of confidence and I hope the Stein cycle is a good one.
16:25:39 <jungleboyj> I think that is all we have for announcements.
16:25:54 <jungleboyj> #topic Rocky Priorities Review
16:26:26 <jungleboyj> So, we have done a pretty good job getting through the priorities this release.
16:26:47 <jungleboyj> One thing I would like some eyes on is trying to get the new support matrix format in:
16:26:58 <jungleboyj> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580757/
16:27:09 <jungleboyj> I have addressed erlon s comments.
16:27:28 <jungleboyj> If others could take a look it would be good to get this in.
16:28:06 <jungleboyj> erlon are you here?
16:28:42 <jungleboyj> Is anyone here?
16:28:53 <e0ne> no
16:28:54 <tommylikehu> :)
16:29:22 <jungleboyj> Ok, the one comment that erlon had was that it would be nice to have the support as a column and the drivers as rows.
16:29:52 <jungleboyj> This wasn't really the way that the tool was designed to be used.  I could, however, swap the design to go this direction.
16:29:59 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: Thoughts?
16:30:50 <jungleboyj> Would be a complete rework.  Basically the driver would be the function and then the Support would be listed under each one.
16:31:18 <jungleboyj> I could try to pound that out though if that is what people would like.
16:31:58 * jungleboyj worked so hard to get here and now I am so lonely ....
16:33:09 <jungleboyj> I will follow up with erlon  and smcginnis on that question.
16:33:10 <e0ne> jungleboyj: maybe everybody  is reviewing your patch now
16:33:35 <tommylikehu> e0ne: +1
16:33:43 <jungleboyj> :-)
16:33:47 <erlon> 'yep
16:33:50 <erlon> :)
16:34:14 <erlon> Ill check that out again
16:35:18 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Take a look at the review and let me know what you all think.
16:35:48 <jungleboyj> #topic Check-in on HA development.
16:36:01 <jungleboyj> geguileo:  I am going to take a look at the latest documentation patch.
16:36:05 <jungleboyj> Still want to get that in.
16:36:07 <erlon> jungleboyj, I imagined that that could not even be possible, given the library was designed to do the other way, but would be a nice to have if not cumbersome
16:36:30 <geguileo> jungleboyj: thanks
16:36:32 <jungleboyj> If we could get other cores looking at the patch it would be good:
16:36:42 <jungleboyj> #link https://review.openstack.org/571242
16:36:58 <jungleboyj> eharney: hemna e0ne tommylikehu ^^^
16:37:15 <tommylikehu> jungleboyj:yeah!
16:37:21 <smcginnis> Sorry, distraction.
16:37:26 <jungleboyj> erlon:  I can give that is try if that is what people would like.
16:37:32 <e0ne> I'll review it later tonight
16:38:02 <erlon> jungleboyj, nice, thanks, give us a ping so we can look at the rendered results
16:38:20 <jungleboyj> erlon:  Will do.
16:38:44 <jungleboyj> Ok, so I think that is all I had on that stuff.
16:38:54 <jungleboyj> We have one other topic that no one claimed.
16:39:11 <jungleboyj> #topic Barbican with Live Migration Issue:
16:39:24 <jungleboyj> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1784873
16:39:26 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1784873 in Cinder "Barbican with Live Migration issue" [Undecided,New]
16:39:43 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  Was this you?
16:39:53 <smcginnis> No, eharney ?
16:40:04 <walshh_> Just wondering if anyone knows how to configure this in a multinode environment
16:40:27 <jungleboyj> walshh_:  Ah, this was you?
16:40:41 <walshh_> It was me, on behalf of a colleague
16:40:51 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Looking.
16:40:56 <walshh_> Lots of detail in the launchpad
16:41:07 <walshh_> just wondering is it configurable
16:41:33 <walshh_> I saw in the code that encryption is not supported for multiattach
16:41:47 <walshh_> wondering if the same is true for Live Migration?
16:42:52 <jungleboyj> Hmmm, may be that no one has tried it.
16:43:36 <jungleboyj> I think that eharney knows more about this area.
16:43:41 <smcginnis> It could be unsupported too, but I've never tried that and don't know enough about the encryption constraints.
16:43:56 <walshh_> any insights appreciated
16:44:06 <smcginnis> Live migration ends up briefly being like multiattach I think, so the same issues probably do apply.
16:44:18 <walshh_> that is what set off alarm bells
16:45:06 <jungleboyj> All the computes have access to the secret store, right?
16:45:28 <smcginnis> We need more encryption expertise.
16:45:36 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  ++
16:46:22 <jungleboyj> Should we add this to the PTG discussion so it isn't lost?
16:46:26 <e0ne> +1
16:46:46 <jungleboyj> See if we can make more progress with the smarter minds all together?
16:46:50 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: Might be good. Even if it's a short conversation with all of us scratching our heads, maybe it will prompt someone to dig into that area.
16:47:02 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  ++
16:47:09 <jungleboyj> walshh_:  Can you add it to the therpad?
16:47:13 <walshh_> sure
16:47:13 <jungleboyj> *etherpad
16:47:19 <jungleboyj> walshh_:  Thank you!
16:48:05 <jungleboyj> Ok.  So I think that  is all we have for today.
16:48:17 <jungleboyj> #topic Open Discussion.
16:48:22 <jungleboyj> Any other topics for today?
16:48:33 <jungleboyj> #chair jungleboyj
16:48:34 <openstack> Current chairs: jungleboyj
16:48:46 <smcginnis> Desperate plea for more reviewers.
16:48:53 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  ++
16:49:15 <jungleboyj> Especially as we are moving into RC we really need more help reviewing please.
16:50:20 <jungleboyj> Hmmm, more silence.  :-(
16:50:51 <jungleboyj> Ok ... Anything else we can discuss today?
16:51:45 <jungleboyj> I will take that as a no.  Sorry for the craziness at the beginning of the meeting.
16:51:50 <jungleboyj> Thank you for your patience.
16:52:10 <jungleboyj> No more pinging for me.  So, please add a reminder to your calendars for the meeting.
16:52:18 <jungleboyj> Thanks all!
16:52:31 <jungleboyj> #endmeeting