16:02:41 <jungleboyj> #startmeeting Cinder
16:02:42 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Aug  8 16:02:41 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:02:46 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'cinder'
16:03:14 * jungleboyj started the meeting in the wrong room.  That isn't a good start.
16:03:15 <xyang> hi
16:03:37 <xyang> I was wondering about that :)
16:04:03 <smcginnis> Hah
16:04:06 <jungleboyj> But if I can't ping, how many people will show up?
16:04:36 <tbarron> hi
16:04:41 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  ?
16:05:29 <smcginnis> What?
16:05:34 <jungleboyj> Well, I guess I will get started and see if anyone else shows up.
16:05:48 <jungleboyj> Oh, you are here.  Sorry, I missed that.
16:06:16 <jungleboyj> Ok, so, weekly reminder to add topics to the PTG Planning Etherpad.
16:06:27 <jungleboyj> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-planning-denver-9-2018
16:06:49 <jungleboyj> tommylikehu: Got TSP for the PTG so he will be there which is good.
16:07:07 <jungleboyj> #announcements
16:07:13 <jungleboyj> #topic announcements
16:07:38 <jungleboyj> I will be cutting RC-1 today.  Doesn't look like there is really anything important pending.
16:07:44 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  You concur?
16:08:24 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: I'll take a quick look through, but I think we're probably as good as were going to get.
16:08:44 <jungleboyj> Ok, that was what I thought as well.
16:09:23 <jungleboyj> I think that is all I had for announcements.
16:09:46 <jungleboyj> #topic Rocky Priorities
16:09:51 <jungleboyj> Nothing really to discuss here.
16:10:03 <jungleboyj> I feel good about the progress we made towards our goals though.
16:10:20 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: Did all of the unsupported driver patches make it through other than for fczm?
16:10:21 <jungleboyj> I am working on putting together cycle highlights to go into releases.
16:10:34 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  I think all the other ones did.
16:10:58 <smcginnis> OK, good.
16:11:14 <jungleboyj> Yes, I just looked.
16:11:18 <jungleboyj> They all made it.
16:12:23 <jungleboyj> So, now I will work on getting things transitioned to Stein development.
16:12:25 <smcginnis> We might still need to do something about this, but I can't repro it yet - https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1786054
16:12:25 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1786054 in Cinder "Volume create schema validation not allowing extra params prior to enforcing microversion" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Sean McGinnis (sean-mcginnis)
16:12:50 <smcginnis> I added unit tests trying to reproduce the issue, but they pass as expected.
16:14:36 <jungleboyj> Hmmm, interesting.
16:14:38 <smcginnis> That can be an RC2 though if it has to be.
16:15:05 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  Ok.  Sounds good.  Don't want to miss RC deadline after missing M-3.
16:15:17 <smcginnis> Yep. :)
16:15:47 <jungleboyj> Anything else?
16:16:08 <jungleboyj> As far as Rocky is concerned?
16:16:32 <jungleboyj> Ok ...
16:16:40 <smcginnis> Nothing from me so far.
16:16:46 <jungleboyj> #topic HA Check in
16:17:12 <jungleboyj> We got the devref in place.  Thank you to all who were able to help with that.
16:18:23 <jungleboyj> That was all I had there.
16:18:38 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  So, Phyton 3 goal for Stein.
16:18:52 <jungleboyj> #Topic Python 3 Goal for Stein
16:20:36 <smcginnis> That's one of the accepted goals for the stein cycle.
16:20:54 <smcginnis> So all things should run py3 unless they are explicitly testing py2.
16:21:07 <smcginnis> But one of the big things that came up with this is third party CI.
16:21:25 <smcginnis> We run py3 jobs in gate, but I believe most third party CI are still running with python 2.
16:21:40 <jungleboyj> I would assume that is the case.
16:22:14 <smcginnis> Everyone should switch over to running py3 and we should track that status in the support matrix or somewhere that end consumers can reference to determine whether their backend of choice is known to work with py3 or not.
16:22:46 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  The support matrix would be a good place to do that.
16:23:03 <smcginnis> Right now it's just highly recommended, but eventually we will want to drop py2 support and will be more critical.
16:24:28 <smcginnis> #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/stein/python3-first.html Py3 goal
16:24:53 <smcginnis> More details about the overall goal there. ^
16:26:16 <jungleboyj> Good.
16:26:18 <smcginnis> I guess if there aren't any questions or concerns, that's all I have on that.
16:26:38 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  Sounds good.  Know what Nova is planning to do for 3rd Party CI?
16:26:49 <smcginnis> Not sure what they have now.
16:27:05 <jungleboyj> Ok.
16:27:06 <smcginnis> But I believe tbarron and I were in agreement on this approach between cinder and manila at least.
16:27:16 <jungleboyj> That is good.
16:28:12 <jungleboyj> Ok.  I think that is all we had on the agenda then.
16:28:17 <tbarron> ack
16:28:21 <jungleboyj> #topic Open Discussion
16:28:28 <jungleboyj> tbarron:  Thanks.
16:28:44 <jungleboyj> tbarron:  Manila is on board?
16:29:35 <jungleboyj> tbarron:  Also, have you done anything more with Storyboard?
16:29:43 <tbarron> no
16:29:49 <tbarron> yes, on board
16:29:59 <tbarron> no more on storyboard
16:30:07 <smcginnis> :)
16:30:20 <jungleboyj> Ok, that was what I had expected.
16:30:35 <tbarron> if they get attachment support then maybe we'll try to move ahead in the new cycle
16:30:58 <jungleboyj> Ok.
16:31:31 <jungleboyj> Well, is there anything else?
16:31:55 <smcginnis> Nothing from me.
16:32:02 <jungleboyj> I think I may send an ML e-mail after this reminding people that I cannot ping anymore and that if they want to remember the meeting they need to put it on their calendar.
16:32:33 <smcginnis> ++
16:32:35 <jungleboyj> Also think I will add a discussion of Core participation at the PTG.
16:32:43 <smcginnis> +++
16:32:47 <jungleboyj> It is getting worse, not better.
16:33:17 <smcginnis> I'm hoping at least part of it is just late summer vacations.
16:33:31 * jungleboyj pictures me as the captain on the bridge of the Titanic as the water is breaking the windows
16:34:12 <jungleboyj> https://gph.is/28WSPpN
16:34:33 <smcginnis> Better start growing the beard.
16:34:46 <jungleboyj> Ha!  I can't pull that off.  :-)
16:35:43 <jungleboyj> Ok.  So, lets call it a meeting.  Hopefully there will be more activity again as we get closer to the PTG.
16:35:55 <jungleboyj> Please, everyone, work on testing the RC once I cut it.
16:36:10 <jungleboyj> Hope we can avoid an RC-2, but better to get things fixed than not.
16:36:45 <smcginnis> Yeah, I don't think we've ever been able to avoid at least one more after RC1, so not the end of the world. But hopefully nothing critical.
16:36:58 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  ++
16:37:22 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  Is there anything else I need to do other than cut the RC?  I am guessing the answer is in your last Release e-mail.
16:38:02 <smcginnis> That should be it.
16:38:10 <jungleboyj> Good.
16:38:16 <smcginnis> I think we want to also release cinder-tempest-plugin.
16:38:30 <jungleboyj> Ok.  I can do that as well.
16:38:45 <smcginnis> Onward to stein then.
16:38:58 * jungleboyj is going to need a Stein
16:39:02 <smcginnis> Can remove the procedural -2's from the new drivers too.
16:39:04 <smcginnis> Hah
16:39:24 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  Will do.
16:40:13 <jungleboyj> #endmeeting