16:00:42 <jungleboyj> #startmeeting Cinder
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16:00:49 <whoami-rajat> Hi
16:00:54 <yikun> Hello
16:00:57 <lixiaoy1> Hi
16:01:00 <enriquetaso> hello o/
16:01:05 <Yingxin> o/
16:01:08 <e0ne> hi
16:01:08 <jungleboyj> courtesy ping jungleboyj diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr thingee erlon tpsilva ganso patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ aspiers jgriffith moshele hwalsh felipemonteiro lpetrut lseki _alastor_ whoami-rajat yikun rosmaita enriquetaso
16:01:10 <davidsha> Hi
16:01:28 <woojay> Hello
16:01:29 <LiangFang> o/
16:01:31 <martinkennelly> o/
16:01:33 <xyang> hi
16:01:42 <smcginnis> o/
16:01:48 <tbarron> hi
16:01:57 <jungleboyj> Hello everyone.
16:02:00 <jungleboyj> Happy New Year!
16:02:13 <LiangFang> happy new year~
16:02:20 <enriquetaso> Happy New year!
16:02:22 <whoami-rajat> Happy new year everyone :)
16:02:25 <asbishop> o/
16:03:27 <carlos_silva> Hello
16:03:35 <ganso> hi
16:03:36 <jungleboyj> Looks like we have a good crowd, so lets get started.
16:03:50 <jungleboyj> #topic announcements
16:04:02 <smcginnis> Anyone else having trouble loading the etherpad?
16:04:22 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  It is working ok for me.
16:04:22 <yikun> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-stein-meetings
16:04:24 <yikun> ^
16:04:25 <e0ne> smcginnis: it works good for me
16:04:35 <smcginnis> OK, must be a local issue then.
16:04:36 <yikun> it works ok for me
16:04:40 <mszwed_> Hello everybody
16:04:45 <martinkennelly> Fine for me
16:04:56 <enriquetaso> fine for me
16:04:58 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  You aren't trying to use the old one are you?
16:05:44 <smcginnis> Nope. Looks like my browser needed a kick in the head. Working now.
16:06:24 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Good.
16:06:44 <erlon> hey
16:06:46 <jungleboyj> So, Milestone 2 is this week.  smcginnis  and I have been working on getting drivers merged that are ready and on getting specs approved.
16:07:19 <jungleboyj> Any help that others can give to get reviews though is appreciated.
16:07:36 <jungleboyj> I don't think the backlog is too bad, but we definitely have a number to get through.
16:07:42 <mszwed_> jungleboyj: regarding your question on gerrit about CI for SPDK: it is up and running. It should leave a result any time now.
16:08:09 <jungleboyj> mszwed_:  Great.  Will watch for that.
16:08:55 <erlon> jungleboyj, do you have that review priority etherpad?
16:09:14 <jungleboyj> I don't think I have more to say there.  Have a couple of specs to mention later in the agenda.
16:09:22 <e0ne> erlon: hi is it. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking
16:09:36 <jungleboyj> erlon: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking
16:09:44 <jungleboyj> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking
16:09:48 <erlon> jungleboyj, e0ne, thanks
16:10:27 <jungleboyj> Also, for those of you working on developing code that goes along with items in that etherpad, please add links as I go through it on occasion.
16:10:51 <jungleboyj> I have also been using the new Priorities dashboard a lot.
16:10:54 <jungleboyj> #link http://tiny.cc/CinderPriorities
16:11:05 <jungleboyj> Please remember to set priorities where appropriate.
16:11:10 <erlon> yeap, lot of the topics does not have the links
16:11:33 <jungleboyj> erlon:  Yeah, and I haven't had a chance to find all those.  So, crowd sourcing would be appreciated there.
16:11:41 <jungleboyj> It will help get your code reviewed.
16:12:17 <jungleboyj> Also wanted to share that I have proposed the 2.7.0 release of os-brick
16:12:27 <jungleboyj> This includes the new RSD connector.
16:13:08 <Yingxin> jungleboyj: there's another fix in the os-brick now..
16:13:17 <davidsha> jungleboyj, there is a follow patch for that: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/629376/
16:13:40 <Yingxin> jungleboyj: switched to a newer release of RSD backend and find a issue there
16:13:51 <jungleboyj> Ok.  I will take a look at that and then try to get a bug-fix release out.
16:14:04 <Yingxin> jungleboyj: thanks!
16:14:04 <jungleboyj> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/629376/
16:14:42 <jungleboyj> Finally, I have proposed two new core members on the mailing list.
16:15:05 <jungleboyj> Waiting to see if anyone has objections to Yingxin and whoami-rajat joining the core team.
16:15:24 <whoami-rajat> yikun ?  ^
16:15:31 <Yingxin> :)
16:15:31 <jungleboyj> Thank you for the work you guys have done in the last couple of months to support Cinder
16:15:46 <enriquetaso> Congratulations!
16:15:46 <jungleboyj> Ooops, autocomplete fail yikun
16:15:55 <yikun> ha, :)
16:15:56 <jungleboyj> whoami-rajat:  You are correct.
16:16:06 <jungleboyj> yikun: Sorry about that.
16:16:16 <xyang> Congrats!
16:16:37 <yikun> jungleboyj: don't mind, haha :)
16:16:47 <jungleboyj> That was almost as bad as forgetting to invite my directory to our scrums.
16:16:59 <jungleboyj> *director
16:17:03 <jungleboyj> Ok, I give up.
16:17:35 <jungleboyj> So, other core team members, please see that e-mail.  If I don't hear any dissent I will add whoami-rajat and yikun in a week.
16:17:52 <whoami-rajat> jungleboyj:  Thanks Jay for proposing. :)
16:18:06 <jungleboyj> whoami-rajat: My pleasure and thanks to smcginnis for his input.
16:18:56 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Moving on to the agenda.
16:19:05 <yikun> thanks, :)
16:19:12 <jungleboyj> #topic mid-cycle planning update
16:19:26 <jungleboyj> yikun:  You are welcome!  Thanks for joining us!
16:19:49 <jungleboyj> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-stein-mid-cycle-planning
16:19:57 <jungleboyj> So, Lenovo is confirmed as the host.
16:20:08 * e0ne will join mid-cycle via hangout this time :(
16:20:23 <jungleboyj> I have rooms reserved on site and am working on getting snacks and drinks set up.
16:20:34 <jungleboyj> e0ne:  Glad if you can do it remotely at least.
16:21:09 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  And I worked on getting the agenda set up in the etherpad.
16:21:13 <e0ne> jungleboyj: I'll do my best to not sleep during the mid-cycle :). different timezones could affect a bit my participation
16:21:20 <jungleboyj> Please continue to add topics in there.
16:21:44 <smcginnis> e0ne: :)
16:21:51 <jungleboyj> e0ne:  Understood.  For topics that need your participation or geguileo 's we should try to schedule them earlier in the day.
16:22:28 <e0ne> jungleboyj: thanks!
16:23:12 <jungleboyj> For people who are able to attend in RTP please make sure to update the etherpad so I know how many people to plan for.
16:23:42 <jungleboyj> Also, if you want to stay at the same hotel as smcginnis and I ... I sent the details in this e-mail:  http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-January/001423.html
16:23:51 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  You are planning to stay there as well.  Right?
16:24:21 <smcginnis> Yep, haven't booked yet, but that's my plan.
16:24:22 <fungi> it's tempting to stop in (only 4 hours from home) but i'm travelling two weeks solid leading up to that :(
16:24:59 <smcginnis> Would be great to see you if circumstances caused you to be in the area fungi!
16:25:11 <jungleboyj> fungi:  If you can make it, we would love to have you.  Might be dinner in it for you.  :-)
16:25:34 <jungleboyj> Understand if it is too much traveling though.
16:25:47 <fungi> yep, still trying to work out how to mention it to christine without her threatening me with bodily harm ;)
16:26:05 <jungleboyj> :-)  I know that feeling.
16:26:42 <jungleboyj> So, that is all I have there.  The week is approaching quickly so get your topics in and please join us if you can!
16:26:58 <jungleboyj> #topic Denver PTG Planning update
16:27:17 <jungleboyj> The Foundation sent out a request for how many teams wanted to do the PTG.
16:27:35 <jungleboyj> I responded that Cinder wanted a room.  Said we were ok with 2 to 3 days of time.
16:28:01 <jungleboyj> We always have enough people there to have some sort of meeting so didn't feel we needed to wait to poll everyone.
16:28:26 <jungleboyj> So, please plan to attend if you are able to do so.
16:29:16 <jungleboyj> Any questions/concerns there?
16:29:30 <e0ne> I didn't get an approval yet, but I'm going to be there
16:29:49 <smcginnis> In case anyone hasn't seen, Summit is Mon-Wed, PTG is Thurs-Sat.
16:29:55 <jungleboyj> e0ne:  Good!
16:29:59 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  Thanks.  :-)
16:30:21 <jungleboyj> After the mid-cycle we can start building the PTG topic list.
16:30:32 <e0ne> I hope, there be a good weather in May in Denver. I did great hiking last PTG
16:30:33 <mszwed_> smcginnis: remind me please exact dates
16:31:07 <jungleboyj> https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/
16:31:14 <jungleboyj> 4/29 to 5/1
16:31:28 <jungleboyj> For the summit.
16:32:01 <jungleboyj> PTG is 5/2 to 5/4
16:32:04 <enriquetaso> :o
16:32:12 <jungleboyj> #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/
16:32:16 <e0ne> May 2-4 for PTG
16:32:26 <jungleboyj> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/
16:32:33 <smcginnis> There will still be a Forum during the Summit. I'm not sure how things will sort out between that and the PTG, but there is still some value for developers to be there for the first half of the week.
16:32:37 <smcginnis> But going to be a long week.
16:32:47 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  Yes it is.
16:33:27 <jungleboyj> So, Cinder is planning to be there.  Hope that many of you can join us.
16:34:54 <mszwed_> I'm wondering if it is a good idea to present there spdk and Cinder integration - technology, benefits, etc... what do you think?
16:35:14 <jungleboyj> mszwed_:  That is something you could propose as a topic for the summit.
16:35:44 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  Is the call for papers already open>?
16:35:55 <e0ne> jungleboyj: yes
16:35:56 <smcginnis> Yes, but the CFP closes soon.
16:36:01 <mszwed_> when is the cutoff date for proposing this?
16:36:10 <smcginnis> https://www.openstack.org/summit-login/login?BackURL=%2Fsummit%2Fdenver-2019%2Fcall-for-presentations%2F
16:36:10 <davidsha> January 20th I think
16:36:11 <e0ne> Summit  CFP is  open until Wednesday, January 23 at 11:59pm PT.
16:36:24 <mszwed_> ok
16:36:28 <mszwed_> thanks
16:36:35 <jungleboyj> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit-login/login?BackURL=%2Fsummit%2Fdenver-2019%2Fcall-for-presentations%2F
16:37:23 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Lets move along.
16:37:29 <jungleboyj> #topic quick review of specs
16:37:49 <jungleboyj> So, we have two outstanding specs that we need to decide if we are going to include in Stein.
16:38:04 <jungleboyj> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/616482
16:38:12 <jungleboyj> Flatten volume from glance rbd image
16:38:40 <jungleboyj> This makes sense to me but if we have any Ceph experts that can chime in, it would be appreciated.
16:38:58 <jungleboyj> Also:
16:39:03 <jungleboyj> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608663/
16:39:14 <jungleboyj> Which is the Image encryption spec.
16:39:38 <jungleboyj> rosmaita:  Was going to look through this one.  Unfortunately eharney is out this week and he was the one that had the most questions there.
16:39:56 <jungleboyj> Do we have anyone else who knows encryption well that can help review?
16:40:42 <lixiaoy1> I ever worked on encrytion, and I can help to review encryption
16:40:51 <smcginnis> lixiaoy1: Thanks!
16:40:57 <jungleboyj> lixiaoy1:  That would be great if you can look.
16:41:02 <lixiaoy1> my pleasure
16:41:06 <LiangFang> I may take a look too
16:41:30 <jungleboyj> Cool.  I think it is a good feature but want to make sure we are thinking through it properly.
16:42:03 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Moving along.
16:42:14 <jungleboyj> #topic Cinder RSD Driver Status update
16:42:19 <jungleboyj> Yingxin:
16:42:25 <jungleboyj> Now I do mean to ping you.  :-)
16:42:25 <Yingxin> The RSD driver code is good
16:42:31 <Yingxin> and CI is reporting
16:42:40 <jungleboyj> Yingxin: Agreed.  It looks pretty good.
16:42:51 <Yingxin> but CI will cause more overhead and the attach does not respond
16:43:10 <Yingxin> and there is another snapshot deletion issue from backend
16:43:28 <jungleboyj> What do you mean the attach does not respond?
16:43:39 <Yingxin> the fix from backend could be in 1~2 weeks I heard
16:43:57 <jungleboyj> Does it require the os-brick fix?
16:44:07 <mszwed_> Yingxin: is this related to inflate call?
16:44:15 <Yingxin> RSD attach volume will not be effective right after the volume created
16:44:26 <lixiaoy1> jungleboyj, no, the fix is in the storage backend
16:44:40 <jungleboyj> lixiaoy1:  Ok.
16:44:40 <Yingxin> That's why I added retry in Driver code
16:44:41 <davidsha> Just to clarify, the CI is working. Myself and martinkennelly are working on it atm.
16:45:24 <Yingxin> but RSD still doesn't respond with CI
16:45:34 <smcginnis> So it works, a fix is needed in the storage backend itself, but in the meantime the retries in os-brick will help avoid the issue - is that right?
16:45:35 <Yingxin> which will be fixes from RSD
16:45:57 <Yingxin> Yes but seems it doesn't help much
16:46:30 <smcginnis> Yingxin: So the CI is running but not reporting yet?
16:46:38 <smcginnis> Still not clear if it is passing or not.
16:46:48 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  It is reporting but not passing yet.
16:46:53 <Yingxin> some tests failed because of the two issues I mentioned.
16:47:07 <Yingxin> jungleboyj: smcginnis yes
16:47:07 <smcginnis> Are they specific tests, or is it kind of random?
16:47:20 <davidsha> smcginnis: It's running atm, it uncovered a bug in the backend.
16:47:33 <jungleboyj> davidsha: It is working.  :-)
16:48:03 <jungleboyj> Why are you thinking this will take weeks to fix?
16:48:25 <Yingxin> it's from another team to fix RSD issues
16:48:28 <smcginnis> Looks like CI isn't running all tests yet though  - Status: Pass 92 Failure 16 Skip 4
16:48:29 <davidsha> The team that works on RSD need some time to make the changes and rebuild the env
16:49:00 <jungleboyj> Ok.
16:49:19 <smcginnis> This is why CI is almost as important as writing the driver code. If it was running earlier it hopefully would have caught this.
16:49:29 <smcginnis> It doesn't sound like things will be ready for the deadline.
16:50:03 <tbarron> 1
16:50:17 <Yingxin> Is it possible to have some exceptions of the deadline there?
16:50:24 <Yingxin> s/of/for
16:51:08 <smcginnis> If it was just a test that needed to be temporarily skipped, maybe. But it's failing a lot of tests and not even running all of them yet, so it doesn't seem so.
16:51:22 <mszwed_> If the issue with deleting snapshot is the same that I hear of 2 days ago than this is very simple fix that should be done fast :)
16:52:09 <Yingxin> ok
16:53:00 <mszwed_> Yingxin: the issue with attach functionality is already root caused? If not I can work with backend team to solve this (we work at the same site).
16:53:42 <Yingxin> mszwed_: yes, there'are some discussions about it and I can forward.
16:53:48 <Yingxin> mszwed_: thank you!
16:54:11 <mszwed_> ok, I'll see what I can do and I will go to them tomorrow.
16:54:58 <smcginnis> Sounds like there's hope. Can we check on status tomorrow?
16:55:07 <Yingxin> mszwed_: appreciated
16:55:24 <Yingxin> smcginnis: sure
16:55:25 <jungleboyj> If there is hope ...
16:55:32 <martinkennelly> smcginnis: When you say not all tests are running, do you mean the skipped tests?
16:55:59 <jungleboyj> martinkennelly:  The full set of Cinder tempest tests should be run.  About 220 tests.
16:56:34 <jungleboyj> Ok, if there is more discussion lets take it to the channel.
16:56:39 <jungleboyj> We only have 4 minutes left.
16:56:52 <jungleboyj> Please keep smcginnis and I updated in the channel on your progress.
16:56:59 <jungleboyj> We will have to re-address tomorrow.
16:57:14 <mszwed_> please keep in mind that RSD is also using NVMf so not all tests will pass (some assume scsi interface)
16:57:21 <jungleboyj> #topic Should we consider https://review.openstack.org/618698 abandoned?
16:57:29 <abishop> re: this patch, the author hasn't responded since last November
16:57:29 <abishop> #link https://review.openstack.org/618698
16:57:33 <jungleboyj> #link https://review.openstack.org/618698
16:57:41 <abishop> I can take over the work, but would prefer to submit something completely different
16:57:41 <abishop> different code and commit message (i.e. nothing from this review would be left intact)
16:57:45 <smcginnis> abishop: That would be great if you could take that over.
16:58:00 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  ++
16:58:00 <smcginnis> abishop: No updates in a very long time from them.
16:58:08 <jungleboyj> I can abandon if you can take over.
16:58:10 <smcginnis> I would assume it's abandoned at this point.
16:58:19 <abishop> ok, will do, thx
16:58:35 <smcginnis> abishop: Thanks for taking that!
16:58:48 <jungleboyj> Yes, thank you!
16:58:48 <abishop> np! glad someone reported the issue!
16:59:16 <jungleboyj> LiangFang:  We are almost out of time.  Can you move your topic forward to next week's meeting?
16:59:23 <LiangFang> OK
16:59:35 <jungleboyj> LiangFang:  Sorry about that.
16:59:44 <LiangFang> currently cpu is doing the image conversion, I think we can leverage some hardware accelerator to do this if the platform have such hardware, I may have spec about this
16:59:47 <LiangFang> np
16:59:58 <jungleboyj> I will pull it forward when I create the next agenda.
17:00:05 <LiangFang> thanks
17:00:08 <jungleboyj> So, need to wrap up.
17:00:10 <smcginnis> mszwed_: Doesn't look like you are in #openstack-cinder. Can you join that channel?
17:00:15 <jungleboyj> Thank you team for showing up.
17:00:18 <smcginnis> Thanks!
17:00:21 <mszwed_> smcginnis: sure
17:00:34 <e0ne> see you next week
17:00:38 <jungleboyj> Please remember to comment on the mid-cycle etherpad.
17:00:38 <davidsha> Thanks!
17:00:41 <jungleboyj> Thanks all!
17:00:42 <abishop> toodles
17:00:49 <jungleboyj> #endmeeting