16:01:02 #startmeeting Cinder 16:01:03 Meeting started Wed Jun 12 16:01:02 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:04 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:01:06 The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' 16:01:09 Hi 16:01:09 o/ 16:01:10 hi! o/ 16:01:15 hi :)_ 16:01:16 hi 16:01:27 hi 16:01:27 Hey 16:01:38 <_erlon_> hey 16:01:43 @1 16:01:46 @! 16:01:46 <_pewp_> jungleboyj ( ・ω・)ノ 16:02:10 o/ 16:02:21 <_alastor_> o/ 16:02:28 o/ 16:02:38 courtesy ping: 16:02:40 jungleboyj whoami-rajat rajinir lseki carloss pots woojay erlon geguileo eharney rosmaita enriquetaso e0ne smcginnis davidsha walshh_ xyang hemna _hemna eharney 16:02:48 hi o/ 16:02:49 hi 16:02:52 hi 16:03:01 hey, all 16:03:03 hi 16:03:09 hi 16:03:19 Hey everyone. 16:03:31 Happy Wednesday. 16:04:18 Looks like we have a good crowd so lets get started. 16:04:25 #topic announcements 16:04:48 Just the usual reminder to work on reviewing specs and new drivers as we start approaching Milestone-2. 16:05:11 #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:train-drivers 16:05:35 I need to take a quick look but think the RSD driver is more or less ready to go. 16:06:13 I also have a number of patches to unsupport or remove drivers. 16:06:24 #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/cinder+branch:master+topic:train-driver-removal 16:06:35 #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/cinder+branch:master+topic:ci_unsupported 16:06:44 Please take a look when you have a chance. 16:06:47 o/ 16:07:10 Would be good to get those through before more merge conflicts come up. 16:07:42 Also, a reminder about the CI requirement for python 3.7 16:07:53 #link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html#t-cinder-py37-ci-running 16:08:17 Will start proposing removal patches for those not in compliance right after Milestone-2. 16:08:37 Think that is all I have for reminders/announcements 16:09:11 #topic Cherry Pick to stein: Fix shell upload-to-image with no volume type 16:09:28 Hmmm, doesn't look like LiangFang is here 16:09:37 Think that was just a review request. 16:09:42 I put my vote on it. 16:09:56 Anyone have anything else there? 16:10:02 I'll take a look at the rsd driver again 16:10:11 hemna: ++ Cool. Thanks. 16:10:53 Next ... 16:11:03 #topic Shanghai PTG 16:11:18 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-June/007079.html 16:11:34 That e-mail went out yesterday. 16:12:03 So, we get to endure another long summit/PTG. It isn't clear, however, I think there is some overlap between summit and PTG. 16:12:12 So, maybe it is a day shorter. Not sure. 16:12:34 Not happy that they are talking about teams having to share rooms. That never worked well in the past. 16:12:36 *Sigh* 16:12:37 Yeah, I think the middle day is split. 16:12:42 Summit: Nov 4-6, 2019 16:12:48 ugh 16:12:48 PTG: November 5-8, 2019 16:12:49 :( 16:12:58 another weekend PTG ?! 16:12:59 Oh, two day overlap. 16:13:11 smcginnis: Oh, that is better. 16:13:34 hemna: Looks like that's Mon-Fri 16:13:47 ok, I hadn't looked on the cal. yet. 16:13:49 Given that the last day or so of the Summit was less useful. 16:14:11 So, I am just trying to get a feel as to if we could have a productive PTG. 16:14:20 Who thinks they have a chance of being in Shanghai? 16:14:37 Lenovo is planning to have me there. 16:14:56 I'm less than 50/50 16:15:00 probably a no 16:15:15 Ok. 16:15:17 I think i will be there this time. 16:15:28 :-( And doing remote will be rough with time differences. 16:15:34 whoami-rajat: That is good news! 16:15:40 I *think* I'l be there. 16:15:42 yah probably impossible to do remote 16:16:26 smcginnis: You better be. 16:16:28 I doubt we can stream using Hangouts. 16:16:35 :( 16:16:42 there is a small chance that I'll be there 16:17:00 smcginnis: Ok. I am working on getting Zoom. 16:17:11 <_erlon_> smcginnis: we can stream, I thing is who will be able to join :) 16:17:19 I also have a VPN service that claims to work in China. 16:17:31 <_erlon_> Ill probably be there too 16:17:50 <_erlon_> ow, there's the firewall thing :/ 16:17:53 * jungleboyj is not looking forward to being behind the great firewall. 16:18:07 yah, pretty much makes networking to the outside world useless 16:18:11 <_erlon_> is there someone in China that can tell us what work what does not? 16:18:18 smcginnis: the issues faced while preparing for denver summit gave me a good lesson to be probable everytime :) 16:18:45 I have NordVPN, they claim to work inside china 16:18:55 _erlon_: Yes, I have coworkers there. 16:19:41 _erlon_: Nothing Google or most social media. Unless you are on a mobile with a US sim card. 16:20:05 expressVPN and NordVPN work in China to outside world 16:20:07 Ugh, I guess PIA VPN is not longer guaranteed to work. 16:20:41 I've heard VPNs that work can suddenly stop if they add more restrictions. 16:20:51 the big deal with stream, it's the sounds... 16:21:12 I suppose we can still record and just publish after getting back over the wall. 16:21:58 smcginnis: but then remote attendees can't have doubts and discussions real time 16:22:00 smcginnis: Yeah, may have to do that. 16:22:45 Anyway, the other problem is that it sounds like we are going to have quite limited attendance. 16:23:13 This is going to make it even more important to get people to the mid-cycle if possible. 16:23:25 ++ 16:24:19 So, two questions to the team. Do we want to plan to have meetings at the PTG? 16:24:28 If so, for how long? 16:24:42 <_erlon_> Next APAC summit should be in South Corea, close to China, Japan and has internet :) 16:24:59 :-) 16:25:52 I don't think we need to request more than 2 days based on recent experience. 16:26:06 We are usually done/burned out by the third day. 16:26:37 jungleboyj: also depends on the topics proposed? 16:26:59 whoami-rajat: True. Unfortunately we need to request space long before we will know that. :-) 16:27:23 jungleboyj: oh. 16:27:26 * jungleboyj is concerned by the silence from everyone else. 16:27:59 🥌 16:28:04 <_erlon_> jungleboyj: yeap, but considering the last summit, that we had a good attendance, and 2 days was enough. Considering less people, 2 days should definitelly be enough 16:28:21 _erlon_: ++ 16:28:28 shhh, be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting cpmference attendees (in Elmer Fudd voice) 16:28:52 🦖 16:28:58 davee__: He he. 16:29:30 Ok, so what I am taking away from this is that people don't know if they are going to be in Shanghai. 16:29:58 No one is saying don't have a meeting. So, I will request 2 days of PTG time. If no one is going to show up I will cancel. 16:30:14 jungleboyj: ++ 16:30:14 jungleboyj: +1. good plan 16:30:25 <_erlon_> sounds good 16:30:28 I'm sure there will be folks there, just a question of whether there will be enough to be useful. 16:31:11 I will again make a plea to joing the mid-cycle if at all possible given that that should be easier to attend than the Summit. 16:31:53 Hong Kong would have been SO Much easoer 16:31:57 easier 16:32:24 mid cycle is in NYC? 16:32:38 mid-cycle is in Raleigh. Let me get the link. 16:32:56 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-train-mid-cycle-planning 16:33:00 thnx 16:33:51 Ok. That was all I had on the agenda. 16:33:58 #topic open discussion 16:34:38 There is an Ops Meetup in NYC that might be useful for anywhere where that's a convenient location. 16:35:19 When is that? 16:35:49 sept 3,4 16:36:03 Thanks, I didn't have that handly. 16:36:05 *handy 16:36:06 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-2nd-2019 16:36:18 is there a link that shows all of the future meetings/sessions for all projects? I am limited in how many I can attend in a year. 16:36:58 davee__: The only official ones are the Summit/PTG events, with teams deciding on their own whether to have midcycles. 16:37:05 It used to be more regular before the PTG. 16:37:25 Yeah. I am not sure if other groups are doing the mid-cycle. 16:37:30 thanks for the clarification 16:37:53 The Ops Meetups are semi-official too though. Right? 16:38:16 Yeah, but also organized independently by the Ops Meetup team. 16:38:27 Gothca. 16:38:32 *Gotcha 16:38:33 Guess you just have to watch for announcements to figure out what's all happening. 16:39:05 So, any other topics for today? 16:40:39 Lots of silence. 16:40:47 I am taking that as a no then? 16:41:04 OK, I'll bite: No 16:41:09 :-) 16:41:21 Glad to know IRC is still working. 16:41:37 * eharney just submitted an initial spec on volume rekey if people want something to look at 16:41:49 good practice for being behind the Great Firewall 16:41:50 eharney: Cool. Thanks. 16:41:54 will post my starting-to-work code today too 16:41:57 :-( 16:41:58 davee__: Hah! 16:42:33 Ok. So, I will give people 18 minutes back. 16:42:43 Thank you for joining the meeting and working on Cinder. 16:42:49 Talk to you all next week. 16:42:54 ++ 16:42:58 see you next week! 16:43:03 #endmeeting