16:00:49 <jungleboyj> #startmeeting Cinder
16:00:50 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Sep 18 16:00:49 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:00:53 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'cinder'
16:01:17 <jungleboyj> courtesy ping:  jungleboyj whoami-rajat rajinir lseki carloss pots woojay erlon geguileo eharney rosmaita enriquetaso e0ne smcginnis davidsha walshh_ xyang hemna _hemna tosky sfernand
16:01:24 <eharney> hi
16:01:26 <geguileo> hi! o/
16:01:26 <smcginnis> o/
16:01:28 <walshh_> hi
16:01:29 <e0ne_> ho
16:01:30 <e0ne_> hi
16:01:46 <enriquetaso> o/
16:01:50 <raghavendrat> hi everyone
16:02:07 <lseki> hi
16:02:11 <rosmaita> o/
16:02:14 <jungleboyj> @!
16:02:15 <_pewp_> jungleboyj ( ^_^)／
16:02:59 <jungleboyj> Looks like we have the usual suspects here.
16:03:27 <tosky> o/
16:03:47 <sfernand> hi
16:04:00 <jungleboyj> Lets get started
16:04:06 <jungleboyj> #topic announcements
16:04:30 <jungleboyj> I didn't have anything in the etherpad but as I look I should announce that next week is RC-1 Target week.
16:04:45 <jungleboyj> #link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html
16:05:24 <jungleboyj> I am also noticing that I didn't get Feature Freeze for us into the schedule.
16:05:32 <rajinir> o/
16:05:33 <jungleboyj> So, I guess it is the wild west out there!
16:05:56 <jungleboyj> 🔫
16:06:19 <rosmaita> (what is that?)
16:06:24 <jungleboyj> Anyway, any features that need to go in the release need to be reviewed this week.
16:06:34 <jungleboyj> Squirt Gun?
16:06:47 <jungleboyj> Closest thing I could find to represent wild west.  :-)
16:07:12 <jungleboyj> Anyway, Otherwise hopefully people have been testing Cinder and looking for bugs.
16:07:14 <rosmaita> works for me, just didn't render very well in my client
16:07:24 * jungleboyj looks at the Red Hat team.
16:07:59 <eharney> well i think i found one in my own feature, if that counts
16:08:14 <sfernand> driver bug fix should also be merged until next week?
16:08:17 <jungleboyj> :-(  I guess that is good.
16:08:27 <e0ne_> sfernand: yes
16:08:29 <jungleboyj> sfernand: Yes, driver bug fixes can be merged .
16:08:36 <jungleboyj> Until we cut the RC.
16:09:13 <lseki> jungleboyj: RC1 or final RC?
16:09:21 <e0ne_> lseki: RC
16:09:22 <jungleboyj> RC1,
16:09:27 <rosmaita> with the RC, the stable branch for train will be cut, and from then on, only backports are allowed
16:09:30 <jungleboyj> Unless it is a critical bug.
16:09:33 <smcginnis> We are in overall feature freeze, so any features we want to land yet should have a FFE on the ML.
16:09:41 <e0ne_> lseki: after RC1 only critical bugfixes are allowed
16:09:51 <lseki> e0ne_: got it, thanks!
16:10:00 <smcginnis> We only need to add a Cinder specific feature freeze to the schedule if we want something earlier than the overall one.
16:10:01 <sfernand> ack
16:10:03 <lseki> jungleboyj, e0ne_: got it, thanks!
16:10:18 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  Ok.  Glad I didn't mess that up.
16:10:32 <jungleboyj> So any new features for drives need an FFE right now.
16:10:39 <jungleboyj> *drivers
16:11:01 <smcginnis> And we also have the hardware acceleration patches that should get an FFE now.
16:11:12 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  ++
16:11:56 <raghavendrat> this is regarding adding Peer Persistence support feature in HPE 3PAR driver: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/677945
16:12:00 <jungleboyj> walshh_:  So I think you need to submit one for this:  https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673013
16:12:14 <jungleboyj> Same for yours raghavendrat
16:12:58 <rosmaita> for the hw accel patch, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668825/ , does it require an email to the ML, or can we declare it OK here?
16:14:11 <jungleboyj> I am fine with getting it in but I think, officially, we need to have an e-mail.
16:14:16 <jungleboyj> I defer to smcginnis  though.
16:14:37 <smcginnis> I can't find it documented anywhere.
16:15:04 <smcginnis> I think the preference is to have it on the ML so there's a record, but if we just want to approve it here, at least this is recorded to reference later if need be.
16:15:15 <smcginnis> I like to keep things low overhead when we can.
16:15:31 <rosmaita> i'm just asking because of the time zone, not sure zheng or liang are here
16:15:45 <jungleboyj> Ok.  So, I am ok with approving it here.  I will review it after the meeting.
16:15:59 <rosmaita> ok, cool
16:16:12 <jungleboyj> Any objections?
16:17:11 <jungleboyj> I will take that as a no.
16:17:28 <raghavendrat> can anyone please share email id of ML. i will send a mail requesting for review
16:17:53 <rosmaita> openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org
16:18:01 <jungleboyj> Yeah ... that.  :-)
16:18:01 <smcginnis> Please don't send posts to the ML asking for reviews. Or do you mean asking for a feature freeze exception? I think that's covered here now.
16:18:10 <raghavendrat> thanks rosmaita:
16:18:21 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: May want to post something listing the features that have been given approval in this meeting though.
16:18:23 <rosmaita> what smcginnis said, though
16:18:34 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  True.
16:19:34 <jungleboyj> Hmmm, looking at raghavendrat his change is related to a bug.
16:19:47 <jungleboyj> So, I think we are ok there.
16:20:13 <jungleboyj> Any objections?
16:20:44 <jungleboyj> The last one would be this one from walshh_  That she just pinged me about:  https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673013
16:20:53 <raghavendrat> actually its new feature in HPE 3PAR; other drivers already have Peer Persistence
16:21:05 <smcginnis> What is peer persistence? Replciation?
16:21:10 <jungleboyj> Sean already gave it a +2, so I think that is ok for an FFE?
16:21:11 <smcginnis> *replication
16:21:28 <raghavendrat> yes. Active Active replication
16:23:06 <jungleboyj> It is limited to their driver.
16:23:40 <jungleboyj> CI is passing.
16:24:13 <jungleboyj> Have I lost everyone here?
16:24:34 <jungleboyj> 💣 💥
16:24:39 <e0ne_> jungleboyj: sounds good to me to be merged
16:24:42 <raghavendrat> right. its specific to HPE driver
16:24:56 <rosmaita> no objection from me
16:24:57 * e0ne_ is bombed
16:25:02 <smcginnis> :)
16:25:07 * jungleboyj laughs
16:26:06 <jungleboyj> Ok.  So, I will send a note saying that the following patches are approved for FFEs:  https://review.opendev.org/#/c/677945/ https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673013 and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668825
16:26:22 <jungleboyj> Team.  Please review those to get them merged ASAP.
16:26:33 <raghavendrat> pardon me. FFE means ?
16:26:33 <jungleboyj> No further FFEs after that.
16:26:40 <jungleboyj> Feature Freeze Exception
16:26:47 <raghavendrat> thanks
16:27:02 <jungleboyj> Welcome
16:27:26 <jungleboyj> Ok, so that kind of covers the one topic in the agenda.
16:27:32 <smcginnis> raghavendrat: Further context, we are past this and now need explicit approval to merge anything that can be considered a feature - https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html#t-ff
16:27:53 <raghavendrat> ok
16:28:08 <jungleboyj> Trying to not destabilize the release at the last minute.
16:28:46 <jungleboyj> So, the other topic for today.
16:28:57 <jungleboyj> #topic Ranking the Forum Submissions
16:29:08 <jungleboyj> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-shanghai-forum-proposals
16:29:18 <rosmaita> thaks
16:29:23 <rosmaita> or, thanks
16:29:36 <rosmaita> we've got 3 topics proposed
16:29:53 <rosmaita> jungleboyj: are you willing to moderate your 2 topics?
16:30:23 <jungleboyj> Sure, if you come help.  :-)
16:30:23 <rosmaita> great
16:31:07 <geguileo> jungleboyj: those are good topics  :-)
16:31:32 <rosmaita> ok, i will propose those 3 -- the upgrade check could easily be cross project, i will say that we would be happy to have it combined with other proposals on that topic
16:31:35 <jungleboyj> geguileo:  Thank you.  Hopefully we get some participation.
16:31:46 <geguileo> yeah, fingers crossed
16:31:47 <jungleboyj> rosmaita:  ++
16:32:23 <rosmaita> does anyone have an objection to any of the topics?
16:32:34 <rosmaita> (otherwise, i will assume approval)
16:32:39 <jungleboyj> Looks like we have decent support for them in the etherpad.
16:32:48 <smcginnis> Ship it
16:32:53 <rosmaita> great
16:32:59 <jungleboyj> 🚢
16:33:14 <rosmaita> i think we have some room, if the volume types gets rejected, we can combine it with the "crazy about cinder" session
16:33:26 <jungleboyj> rosmaita:  ++
16:33:33 <rosmaita> and i can't imagine we're the only people interested in the upgrade checker
16:33:51 <jungleboyj> I don't know that I have ever had a Forum session rejected.
16:33:57 <jungleboyj> With this Summit, though, who knows!
16:34:16 <rosmaita> hmmm ... you must be better connected than me, i have had a session rejected!
16:34:25 <rosmaita> and have also been asked to combine sessions
16:34:27 <rosmaita> :)
16:34:43 <rosmaita> anyway, i'll get those proposed before the deadline
16:34:52 <jungleboyj> Ok.  Well, we will see how it goes.  :-)
16:35:16 <rosmaita> reminder:
16:35:20 <rosmaita> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ussuri-ptg-planning
16:35:40 <rosmaita> please add topics if there are things you'd like to see discussed
16:35:55 <jungleboyj> rosmaita:  ++
16:36:09 <jungleboyj> Nice to see we have 10 people planning to attend.
16:36:17 <rosmaita> yes, that is cool
16:36:19 <lseki> adding a topic there right now
16:36:25 <rosmaita> great!
16:37:19 <smcginnis> Side note related to one of those topics - I think the TC is waiting for finalization of the CentOS 8 release date to see if we can use that as the official distro for Red Hat based platforms. If we need to stick with 7, that may throw a wrench (or spanner if you're one of those people) into the py3-only plan.
16:37:52 <eharney> interesting
16:38:02 <smcginnis> lseki: Would be great to know which options.
16:38:16 <smcginnis> We only every identified logging to start, but never went anywhere from there.
16:38:26 <smcginnis> Partly because of an oslo bug that would just restart the service anyway.
16:38:48 <lseki> smcginnis: yep, I'm gonna ask the customer about which options besides credentials
16:38:53 <smcginnis> ++
16:39:45 <jungleboyj> smcginnis:  Do we need to do anything more to fix that or is it all in Oslo?
16:39:58 <bnemec> Note that that bug is now fixed.
16:40:05 <smcginnis> ^
16:40:23 <smcginnis> I haven't tested it, but with current upper-constraints theoretically it should all work now.
16:40:34 <jungleboyj> bnemec:  Cool.  Thanks for pitching in.
16:40:48 <jungleboyj> I should try that at some point.
16:41:02 <bnemec> Yeah, it's only been tested on Nova. Would be interested to know if it works for Cinder too.
16:41:14 <jungleboyj> bnemec:  ++
16:42:05 <rosmaita> ok, that's all from me ... we can move to open discussion
16:42:14 <jungleboyj> #topic Open Discussion
16:44:35 <jungleboyj> Does anyone have anything else they would like to discuss?
16:46:04 <jungleboyj> Looks like no?
16:47:04 <smcginnis> nope
16:47:18 <rosmaita> nothing from me
16:47:21 <jungleboyj> https://review.opendev.org/#/c/677945/
16:47:33 <jungleboyj> Wrong link
16:47:34 <jungleboyj> https://gph.is/2c7tlDw
16:47:38 <jungleboyj> Wake up people!
16:47:56 <geguileo> lol
16:48:34 <jungleboyj> Ok.  I guess we will wrap things up for today then.
16:48:58 <jungleboyj> Thanks for attending.  Please try to review the remaining features that need to get in.
16:49:01 <jungleboyj> Thanks!
16:49:07 <e0ne_> see you next week!
16:49:07 <jungleboyj> #endmeeting