14:00:01 <whoami-rajat> #startmeeting cinder
14:00:01 <opendevmeet> Meeting started Wed Jul 19 14:00:01 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is whoami-rajat. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:00:01 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'cinder'
14:00:03 <whoami-rajat> #topic roll call
14:00:24 <simondodsley> o/
14:00:40 <luizsantos[m]> o/
14:00:46 <MatheusAndrade[m]> o/
14:00:54 <nahimsouza[m]> o/
14:01:04 <helenadantas[m]> o/
14:01:11 <enriquetaso> o?
14:01:15 <enriquetaso> o/
14:01:43 <thiagoalvoravel> o/
14:01:50 <whoami-rajat> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-bobcat-meetings
14:02:48 <rosmaita> o/
14:02:59 <harsh> o/
14:03:31 <eharney> o/
14:04:34 <whoami-rajat> good turnout today
14:04:37 <whoami-rajat> let's get started
14:04:41 <whoami-rajat> #topic announcements
14:04:50 <whoami-rajat> starting out with a sad news
14:04:51 <whoami-rajat> Sofia will be leaving cinder
14:05:16 <simondodsley> A great loss
14:05:43 <whoami-rajat> indeed
14:05:45 <rosmaita> :(
14:06:03 <harsh> oh :(
14:06:03 <whoami-rajat> she has a great presence upstream and holds the followings responsibilities
14:06:04 <whoami-rajat> Core reviewer
14:06:04 <whoami-rajat> Stable core
14:06:04 <whoami-rajat> Bug Deputy
14:06:04 <whoami-rajat> Outreachy mentor
14:06:22 <whoami-rajat> the absence will surely be felt
14:06:34 <eharney> yes, sorry to see you go Sofia
14:06:35 <whoami-rajat> enriquetaso, thanks for all your contributions!
14:06:53 <enriquetaso> :d
14:06:55 <enriquetaso> :D
14:07:08 <enriquetaso> I'll miss the team too!
14:07:26 <enriquetaso> Next week will be the last bug email from me
14:07:59 <enriquetaso> I'll send a email later this week :)
14:08:24 <enriquetaso> thank you all!
14:08:36 <whoami-rajat> thanks again Sofia
14:08:56 <whoami-rajat> as enriquetaso mentioned, if anyone is up to take one of her responsibilities i.e. bug deputy
14:09:25 <whoami-rajat> please contact me or sofia ? and we will brief you up about the role
14:10:33 <enriquetaso> i've created a stupid script to do the report easily https://github.com/enriquetaso/launchpad-bug-reporter
14:12:31 <whoami-rajat> wow, that's convenient
14:12:58 <rosmaita> very nice!
14:13:56 <whoami-rajat> ok, moving on from this news
14:13:57 <whoami-rajat> next up is Driver status
14:14:01 <whoami-rajat> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-2023-2-bobcat-drivers
14:14:12 <whoami-rajat> The yadro CI wasn't reporting last week
14:14:19 <whoami-rajat> but it started reported just hours after the deadline
14:14:34 <whoami-rajat> I left an open comment on the patch for the cinder team to look and respond on my decision
14:15:03 <whoami-rajat> I didn't see much merit in postponing the driver given the CI was ready before deadline and the vendor team were having infra issues due to which it didn't report for sometime
14:15:09 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/876743/9#message-a14d8071cc080b308abfe2d21d8aad35739d8585
14:15:15 <whoami-rajat> 3 of the cores have agreed on the patch
14:15:24 <whoami-rajat> and jungleboyj agreed with the decision on IRC
14:15:31 <whoami-rajat> so I've approved it
14:15:38 <rosmaita> \o/
14:15:47 <whoami-rajat> so right now we had 2 drivers this cycle that were merged
14:15:58 <whoami-rajat> 1) Yadro FC Driver
14:16:05 <whoami-rajat> 2) TOYOU NetStor iSCSI driver
14:16:41 <whoami-rajat> thanks everyone for your reviews and getting the drivers in
14:17:26 <jungleboyj> o/
14:17:45 <whoami-rajat> next, EM Discussion Update
14:17:51 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/888771
14:18:04 <whoami-rajat> after multiple discussions, the TC team has proposed an update on the EM discussion
14:18:14 <whoami-rajat> if you don't have much time, you can go through the commit message
14:18:22 <whoami-rajat> it summarizes the changes
14:18:36 <whoami-rajat> basically it's the same thing that rosmaita briefed us about last week
14:18:54 <whoami-rajat> 1. EM is rename to Unmaintained.
14:18:54 <whoami-rajat> 2. Branch deletion and creation under unmaintained/.
14:18:54 <whoami-rajat> 3. New Gerrit group responsible for the branch.
14:18:54 <whoami-rajat> 4. Mention of TC maintaining a checklist and process.
14:18:58 <whoami-rajat> here it is
14:19:12 <rosmaita> i wrote up a quick summary because the workflow wasn't entirely clear to me: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-unmaintained-workflow
14:19:22 <rosmaita> i do have a question for people, though
14:20:04 <rosmaita> as far as the "unmaintained" branches, there's a proposal that they should only be SLURP branches
14:20:07 <whoami-rajat> rosmaita, always has an easier way to explain the TC decisions :D
14:21:24 <whoami-rajat> wasn't there a point that we can't move a branch to unmaintained unless it's previous branches are in unmaintained status? how does that fit in with non-SLURP branches?
14:22:56 <rosmaita> i think you have the time directionality backwards there?
14:23:15 <rosmaita> anyway, maybe it's not a big deal ... the stable branches will work the way they do now
14:23:33 <rosmaita> you will only be able to get "holes" in the series once you hit Unmaintained
14:24:05 <rosmaita> i was thinking this could be problematic for backporting stuff
14:24:09 <rosmaita> but maybe not
14:24:19 <rosmaita> (does my concern make any sense?)
14:25:35 <whoami-rajat> sorry if i wasn't clear, let me take an example, if we put CC to unmaintained and Bobcat is still in extended maintenance, should we have allowed moving CC to unmaintained when it's previous branch (Bobcat) is still EM?
14:26:35 <rosmaita> yeah, i don't know about how the transition is supposed to work from existing EM branches into unmaintained
14:26:48 <rosmaita> there's a patch up for that but i don't understand it
14:27:06 <rosmaita> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/887969
14:29:43 <whoami-rajat> For every release that exits the maintained phase, the last 3 branches under
14:29:44 <whoami-rajat> extended maintenance are moved to the new extended maintenance policy
14:30:21 <whoami-rajat> this won't be the case always right? if 1 branch moving from maintained to EM transitions 3 EM branches to unmaintained, we won't have enough EM branches to transition
14:30:32 <whoami-rajat> or maybe it's just until all current EM branches are moved to unmaintained
14:30:35 <whoami-rajat> not sure either
14:30:54 <whoami-rajat> I will wait for the final resolution
14:31:13 <rosmaita> yeah, i will push for some clarity on that one
14:31:43 <whoami-rajat> that would be good
14:33:07 <whoami-rajat> ok, moving on
14:33:09 <whoami-rajat> next, OpenStack C release name results
14:33:19 <whoami-rajat> from the latest email, the poll ended on 18th July
14:33:26 <whoami-rajat> but I was still able to vote
14:33:38 <whoami-rajat> not sure what's going on with the poll but here are the results that i can see
14:33:42 <whoami-rajat> Caracal  (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices)
14:33:42 <whoami-rajat> Cashew  loses to Caracal by 163–1253.
14:33:43 <whoami-rajat> Celine  loses to Caracal by 174–114, loses to Cashew by 152–119
14:33:57 <whoami-rajat> so our next release name seems to be Caracal
14:34:12 <eharney> Cool
14:36:25 <whoami-rajat> ok, final announcement
14:36:28 <whoami-rajat> Festival of XS reviews this wek
14:36:33 <whoami-rajat> This friday, 21 July, 1400-1600 UTC
14:36:39 <whoami-rajat> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-festival-of-reviews
14:36:52 <whoami-rajat> I haven't done any changes to the structure yet
14:37:03 <whoami-rajat> so it will again be a 2 hour meeting where we will review extra small patches
14:37:23 <harsh> cool
14:37:43 <simondodsley> keep the wild animal theme going...
14:38:22 <whoami-rajat> :D
14:38:37 <whoami-rajat> that's all the announcements for today
14:38:54 <whoami-rajat> anyone has anything else to announce that i missed?
14:40:42 <jbernard> stable-only patch to fix victoria gate: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/888698 from Elod needs reviews
14:40:55 <jbernard> (in case it wasn't mentioned before)
14:43:24 <whoami-rajat> thanks jbernard
14:45:40 <whoami-rajat> until the EM branches get a resolution, good to get the gate fixed :)
14:46:05 <whoami-rajat> let's move to open discussion
14:46:09 <whoami-rajat> #topic open discussion
14:46:22 <inori> Hi, I want to bring a patch attention here.
14:46:25 <whoami-rajat> we don't have any topics for today but if anyone would like to discuss anything
14:46:28 <whoami-rajat> they can go ahead
14:46:33 <inori> Our driver has a patch: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/703770. But I'm unable to access the account of the patch owner.
14:46:49 <inori> So I created a new patch to replace it: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/847730. Since I cannot manage the old patch, would it be possible for you to abandon the old patch(703770)?
14:47:13 <whoami-rajat> inori, sure i can do that
14:47:30 <whoami-rajat> done
14:47:55 <inori> Got it. Thank you.
14:48:24 <whoami-rajat> np
14:48:31 <inori> And the patch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/847730 already has one +2, so it need one more +2 to be merged, right? Could you please review it at your earliest convenience?
14:48:59 <whoami-rajat> sure, will take a look
14:49:25 <inori> In fact, our driver has a lot of patches: https://review.opendev.org/q/owner:inori. The code of our driver in RHOSP base image is too old, so that we want to make the patches be merged ASAP.
14:49:29 <inori> Thank you.
14:49:34 <harsh> hi.. i am trying to rebase the patch : https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/870006
14:50:00 <harsh> but when i am uploading the new patch i am getting an error :  ! [remote rejected]     HEAD -> refs/for/master%topic=bug/2003300 (commit a159754: you are not allowed to upload merges)
14:50:07 <harsh> any ideas?
14:51:00 <eharney> your rebasing procedure must have created a merge commit, which can't be there
14:52:00 <harsh> oh ok. let me check. can we discuss on personal window?
14:52:38 <eharney> get a clean cinder clone from master and do "git review -x 870006", and resolve the conflict while cherry-picking, is the easy route
14:53:11 <harsh> ok i'll try that
14:59:33 <whoami-rajat> we're out of time
14:59:38 <whoami-rajat> thanks everyone for attending
14:59:44 <whoami-rajat> #endmeeting