14:00:01 <whoami-rajat> #startmeeting cinder
14:00:01 <opendevmeet> Meeting started Wed Oct 11 14:00:01 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is whoami-rajat. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:00:01 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'cinder'
14:00:04 <whoami-rajat> #topic roll call
14:00:06 <simondodsley> o/
14:00:25 <toheeb> o/
14:00:44 <raghavendrat> hi
14:00:49 <eharney> hi
14:01:05 <Saikumar> o/
14:01:34 <thiagoalvoravel> o/
14:01:39 <msaravan> o/
14:02:01 <rosmaita> o/
14:02:18 <caiquemello[m]> o/
14:02:58 <whoami-rajat> we've a new etherpad
14:03:00 <whoami-rajat> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-caracal-meetings
14:04:10 <whoami-rajat> hello everyone
14:04:15 <jungleboyj> o/
14:04:27 <whoami-rajat> let's get started with the announcements
14:04:31 <whoami-rajat> #topic announcements
14:04:47 <whoami-rajat> Welcome to the first meeting of 2024.1 (Caracal)!
14:05:07 <simondodsley> and so the cycle begins again
14:05:16 <jungleboyj> :-)
14:05:26 <whoami-rajat> as i said we've a new meeting etherpad, please add your topics to that from now on until the end of 2024.1
14:05:31 <whoami-rajat> for which we've quite some time
14:06:11 <whoami-rajat> ok moving on
14:06:14 <whoami-rajat> next, Congratulations Brian for becoming TC vice chair!
14:06:22 <whoami-rajat> #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-October/035272.html
14:06:22 <jungleboyj> ++
14:06:24 <simondodsley> Congrats
14:06:42 <simondodsley> All the power -- use it wisely
14:06:54 <rosmaita> thanks, though i prefer to refer to myself as the "chairman of vice"
14:07:13 <jungleboyj> LOL
14:07:16 <whoami-rajat> :D
14:08:52 <whoami-rajat> congratulations Brian!
14:09:04 <whoami-rajat> we've another major related announcement
14:09:07 <whoami-rajat> Congratulations Jon Bernard for becoming cinder stable core!
14:09:16 <whoami-rajat> #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-October/035310.html
14:09:21 <rosmaita> congratulations Jon!
14:10:10 <whoami-rajat> i think he's not around since i can't find his irc but Jon has been managing stable releases for past 3 or 4 cycles
14:10:20 <whoami-rajat> so totally deserved, congratulations Jon
14:10:27 <whoami-rajat> and thanks rosmaita for proposing him
14:11:06 <whoami-rajat> ok i see jbernard joined
14:11:11 <whoami-rajat> jbernard, we were just congratulating you for becoming a stable core
14:11:30 <jbernard> o/
14:11:34 <jbernard> thanks everyone
14:11:35 <jungleboyj> Congratulations and thanks for helping out!
14:11:43 <jproque-dell> o/
14:11:49 <jproque-dell> didn't receive the reminder
14:13:05 <whoami-rajat> jproque-dell, did you change your irc nick? you can add it to the list here https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-caracal-meetings#L31
14:13:45 <whoami-rajat> next, PTG Details
14:13:53 <whoami-rajat> #link https://ptg.opendev.org/ptg.html
14:14:02 <whoami-rajat> Room: Cactus
14:14:03 <whoami-rajat> Date: 24 Oct - 27 Oct, 2023
14:14:03 <whoami-rajat> Time: 1300-1700 UTC
14:14:07 <jproque-dell> I just realized that I logged in with my alternative nickname, thks womai-rajat
14:14:35 <whoami-rajat> I've booked the Cactus room on the following date and time ^ as you can see in the PTG link i provided
14:14:47 <whoami-rajat> jproque-dell, no problem
14:16:02 <whoami-rajat> hope to see everyone at the PTG
14:16:15 <whoami-rajat> cinder usually has the highest strength, which is really good to see
14:16:38 <whoami-rajat> related to that, we've the PTG planning etherpad
14:16:40 <whoami-rajat> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/caracal-ptg-cinder-planning
14:16:50 <whoami-rajat> so please add topics that you would like to be discussed during the PTG
14:17:23 <whoami-rajat> remember we plan the next 6 months items during the PTG so it would be good to bring things up that you would like to work on during the 2024.1 cycle
14:17:50 <whoami-rajat> last announcement, OpenInfra Live: 2023.2 Bobcat Updates
14:17:57 <whoami-rajat> #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-October/035271.html
14:18:22 <whoami-rajat> so we had the open infra live last week in which project PTLs provided their project update
14:18:41 <whoami-rajat> the projects represented were nova, ironic, manila, neutron and cinder
14:18:53 <whoami-rajat> #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7WDncK3YuM
14:19:02 <whoami-rajat> we've the recording on youtube if you would like to watch ^
14:19:33 <jproque-dell> thks
14:19:41 <whoami-rajat> that's all the announcements from my side
14:19:50 <whoami-rajat> anyone has anything else to announce?
14:22:49 <whoami-rajat> guess not
14:22:49 <whoami-rajat> let's move to topics
14:22:58 <whoami-rajat> #topic PTG video conference tool
14:23:13 <whoami-rajat> so as i announced earlier, we've upcoming PTG for 2024.1 release
14:23:38 <whoami-rajat> unfortunately bluejeans is not available anymore and we need to switch to a new video conference tool
14:23:55 <whoami-rajat> Zoom is the default option provided by the community
14:24:09 <whoami-rajat> recently we've been keeping meetings on gmeet which has worked fine for us
14:24:25 <whoami-rajat> but in the past, contributors from China had issues joining it
14:24:49 <whoami-rajat> also rosmaita can correct me but TC is planning to use jitsi-meet this time
14:25:02 <rosmaita> not sure about that
14:25:24 <whoami-rajat> i read it in the TC meeting agenda, maybe it was just a discussion topic
14:25:28 <rosmaita> there's discussion to hold the monthly TC meeting that's in video in jitsi-meet instead of zoom
14:25:42 <whoami-rajat> ah ok
14:26:05 <rosmaita> there's a limit on how many connections it can handle, that's why the foundation uses zoom
14:26:18 <SumitGupta1503> Is that jitsi-meet browser based?
14:26:46 <rosmaita> SumitGupta1503: it uses a lot of browser capabilities, iiuc
14:27:45 <whoami-rajat> Cinder usually has good strength at the PTG (20+ sometimes 30+ on initial days)
14:28:16 <whoami-rajat> basically i just wanted opinions from the team if they've tried different tools and something which has worked best for them
14:28:25 <sunrajesh> Zoom works best for us :)
14:28:32 <rosmaita> yeah, i am not sure what the jitsi-meet limit is
14:29:29 <jproque-dell> we use Zoom as well
14:29:33 <jproque-dell> works fine
14:29:38 <SumitGupta1503> Internet says 100 users with good performance for jitsi
14:29:46 <SumitGupta1503> Thereafter, lag..
14:30:22 <SumitGupta1503> I have seen zoom working with 300+ users few times..
14:30:58 <rosmaita> i think the problem with jitsi for us is it doesn't have native recording capability
14:30:59 <whoami-rajat> SumitGupta1503, that might be the ideal limit but practically it might differ, but I haven't used jitsi so can't comment really
14:31:28 <whoami-rajat> rosmaita, ah, that's a big issue then ...
14:31:50 <rosmaita> though maybe that has changed with more recent versions?
14:33:57 <zaitcev> So, what are downsides to Zoom? If there are none, let's just agree to it, prepare rooms, write links to Etherpad and move on (I am dumping all this work implicitly on Rajat, sorry).
14:34:51 <whoami-rajat> rosmaita, a quick search says it does allow recording but maybe it's a premium feature
14:35:08 <whoami-rajat> zaitcev, right, based on the feedback here i feel zoom should be good for us
14:35:09 <rosmaita> we'd have to check with #openstack-infra
14:35:37 <whoami-rajat> zaitcev, it's the PTL responsibility to do all that so no worries :D
14:35:48 <rosmaita> actually, should be no work if we pick zoom, it's the default for the ptg tooling
14:35:52 <zaitcev> Right. If they veto Zoom for whatever reason, then tough luck.
14:37:09 <whoami-rajat> ok great
14:37:35 <whoami-rajat> let's try out Zoom this time and see how it goes
14:38:22 <whoami-rajat> actually the PTG schedule link defaults to the zoom link so there is actually less or no work to do here
14:38:51 <whoami-rajat> anyways, thanks everyone for feedback, we will go with Zoom this time
14:38:56 <zaitcev> Cool.
14:38:56 <whoami-rajat> next topic
14:39:05 <whoami-rajat> #topic Operator Hour at PTG
14:39:12 <whoami-rajat> this is another discussion that i need some help with
14:39:42 <whoami-rajat> I'm not sure what would be the best time for the operator session
14:39:56 <whoami-rajat> I've proposed 2 dates and 2 different times
14:39:58 <whoami-rajat> Wednesday: 1400-1500 UTC or 1500-1600 UTC
14:39:58 <whoami-rajat> Thursday: 1400-1500 UTC or 1500-1600 UTC
14:40:19 <whoami-rajat> I haven't kept it as the starting session since everyone is gathering usually for the first 10-15 mins
14:40:33 <rosmaita> good idea
14:41:07 <whoami-rajat> also the last session for these two days are booked for cross project (just today)
14:41:20 <whoami-rajat> let me just announce that as well
14:41:27 <whoami-rajat> wednesday 1600-1700 Nova cross project
14:41:36 <whoami-rajat> Thursday 1600-1700 Manila cross project
14:42:07 <whoami-rajat> so yeah, enough from my side, please let me know which time seems more suitable for operators
14:42:35 <rosmaita> i think just grab whichever one you prefer
14:43:44 <whoami-rajat> ok, let's go with Wednesday 1400-1500 UTC
14:44:40 <whoami-rajat> it also matches what we had the last time (IIRC)
14:46:02 <whoami-rajat> i guess everyone agrees to it
14:46:16 <whoami-rajat> i will book it after the meeting
14:46:22 <whoami-rajat> last topic for today
14:46:25 <whoami-rajat> #topic Having CI issues here
14:46:30 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/868485
14:46:33 <whoami-rajat> drencrom, that's you
14:47:01 <drencrom> Yes, that patch had a wf+1 last week but zuul is failing
14:47:51 <whoami-rajat> looks like timeout issue on the last run
14:48:24 <whoami-rajat> the job cinder-tempest-plugin-lvm-lio-barbican passed on the last run so it looks unrelated
14:48:33 <whoami-rajat> but we've been seeing these failures quite a lot
14:48:51 <eharney> i stopped an lio-barbican failure related to oom-killer again today, is anyone still looking into that area?
14:48:53 <drencrom> Yes, it seems it is just flaky
14:48:54 <eharney> i spotted*
14:49:12 <rosmaita> yeah, looks like it can't ssh into the instance for the test
14:49:24 <whoami-rajat> drencrom, one recommendation for recheck is to also mention the reason for failure after the recheck keyword
14:49:37 <whoami-rajat> drencrom, eg: recheck lvm-lio-barbican job failed with reason <>
14:49:46 <drencrom> ack, will do
14:49:53 <rosmaita> eharney: do you have a patch?
14:50:06 <eharney> rosmaita: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/888296
14:50:43 <rosmaita> oh, when you said "stopped" i thought you meant "fixed"
14:50:46 <rosmaita> :D
14:50:54 <eharney> yeah typo
14:53:21 <whoami-rajat> I haven't really got time to look at the failures, but would be good if someone wants to volunteer to look into our gate issues
14:54:34 <eharney> is "we're running out of memory and oom-killer is killing mysql" still a commonly seen problem?
14:54:48 <rosmaita> looks like no oom on drencrom's patch for lio-barbican, just the instance didn't respond
14:55:36 <rosmaita> eharney: your patch has 4 oom killed processes: mysqld, cryptsetup, qemu-system-x86, qemu-system-x86
14:56:32 <eharney> my hunch is to either lower test concurrency or throw more swap space at it
14:56:33 <rosmaita> but my impression is that mysqld getting killed is still pretty common
14:56:45 <eharney> ok, i wasn't sure if we thought we had gotten that sorted out or not
14:57:22 <rosmaita> yeah, i don't think so
14:59:19 <whoami-rajat> we're out of time
14:59:33 <whoami-rajat> there are a lot of review requests
14:59:39 <whoami-rajat> some are follow ups from past cycles
14:59:42 <whoami-rajat> so remmeber to take a look
14:59:59 <whoami-rajat> also I'm planning to cancel next week's meeting since we will be meeting at the PTG
15:00:09 <whoami-rajat> i will send a mail regarding that to ML
15:00:11 <jungleboyj> Thanks!
15:00:21 <jproque-dell> thks Rajat
15:00:30 <whoami-rajat> thanks everyone, see you at the PTG!
15:00:33 <whoami-rajat> #endmeeting