14:00:18 <whoami-rajat> #startmeeting cinder
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14:00:23 <whoami-rajat> #topic roll call
14:01:14 <whoami-rajat> today's meeting is in video+IRC format https://meet.google.com/xqc-ekpa-dao
14:01:50 <jayaanand> hi
14:01:55 <crohmann> o/
14:02:06 <rosmaita> o/
14:02:14 <akawai> o/
14:03:24 <kgube> o/
14:04:11 <whoami-rajat> hello everyone
14:04:29 <whoami-rajat> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-caracal-meetings
14:05:42 <whoami-rajat> #topic announcements
14:05:47 <whoami-rajat> first, Jon Bernard stepped up to be the 2024.2 PTL!
14:05:51 <whoami-rajat> #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/Q54EYAWNYVVOBZKIVFWDMKDONOMJAH4V/
14:05:55 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/910024
14:06:58 <whoami-rajat> next, os-brick 6.7.0 for 2024.1 (caracal) released
14:07:05 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/909400
14:12:15 <whoami-rajat> Upcoming Deadlines & Dates
14:12:19 <whoami-rajat> Caracal-3 milestone (feature freeze): February 29th, 2024 (R-5 week)
14:12:20 <whoami-rajat> Cycle Highlights Due: March 7th, 2024 (R-4 week)
14:12:20 <whoami-rajat> RC1 deadline: March 14, 2024 (R-3 week)
14:12:20 <whoami-rajat> Final RC deadline: March 28, 2024 (R-1 week)
14:12:20 <whoami-rajat> 2024.1 Caracal final release: April 3rd, 2024
14:12:21 <whoami-rajat> Dalmatian PTG: April 8-12, 2024
14:12:25 <whoami-rajat> #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/KWT45CP6MPRCYUKLLZ3KOSYJCYI7FN4Z/
14:14:21 <whoami-rajat> #topic Review request guidelines not being honoured
14:16:16 <crohmann> I responded to that one as I feel my list of review requests caused this reminder.
14:17:00 <whoami-rajat> no, i was just mentioning this in the video meeting that it was a general observation, multiple driver vendors had added multiple patches and irrespective of the deadline
14:17:33 <whoami-rajat> i was just looking at past couple of week's request section and made the observation, also it's just a reminder for efficient review request
14:17:42 <whoami-rajat> which would benefit the author as well as reviewer
14:18:11 <whoami-rajat> #topic Feature Freeze and cinderclient release
14:18:40 <crohmann> sorry, for not being int he video call today. I wrote a few lines about my motivation. I believe an efficient review process should be a future topic.
14:21:46 <crohmann> Is there a goal to deprecate the cinderclient in favor of OpenStack client / SDK?
14:25:49 <akawai> HPE XP HA patch supports active-standby only, not support active-active.
14:32:04 <whoami-rajat> crohmann, we don't have a plan of doing that, we still have support missing in SDK
14:32:21 <whoami-rajat> #topic open discussion
14:33:47 <crohmann> Is anybody interested to help me with the Ceph caps https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2051244 ?
14:36:11 <crohmann> whoami-rajat: I suppose the linked google doc with the regard osc parity is still current? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yetPti2XImRnOXvvJH48yQogdKDzRWDl-NYbjTF67Gg/edit#gid=1463660729
14:36:16 <whoami-rajat> i think eharney mentioned he will take a look, maybe you can contact him directly
14:36:41 <crohmann> Will do. THX eharney.
14:37:01 <whoami-rajat> crohmann, i haven't updated it in quite a while, i will provide another docs link
14:39:34 <whoami-rajat> crohmann, this contains the work items https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XUFsOnVBxo6sCvF9tSwPFfwMd0COEbeUF7yndRL92i4/edit
14:41:04 <crohmann> awesome, thx whoami-rajat. Does it make sense to convert this doc to a set of bugs? This makes it more approachble for part-time contributor to pick one or two missing features. Or do you rather want to tackle this in a bug push somehow?
14:42:07 <whoami-rajat> crohmann, osc and sdk bugs are tracked on storyboard
14:42:20 <whoami-rajat> i think we can create a story and add tasks to it
14:42:28 <whoami-rajat> each task associated to a particular command
14:42:29 <crohmann> I know. But are all those missing "features" tracked there?
14:42:53 <whoami-rajat> not yet
14:43:17 <whoami-rajat> it was planned to be done by some outreachy intern but we haven't been getting any lately
14:43:39 <whoami-rajat> but +1 to move them to storyboard as tasks
14:44:28 <crohmann> I mean it look (!) like 200 clicks to add a task for each line ... but it might make more sense to cluster them with some insight knowledge, right?
14:45:50 <whoami-rajat> sorry, i don't understand
14:46:23 <whoami-rajat> s/don't/didn't
14:47:04 <crohmann> Looking at the Google doc it appears this is an easy ask (I'd take it), but clustering a few commands into a task (knowning the inner workings of cinder) might make sense
14:48:23 <whoami-rajat> they're already clustered, aren't they? I've grouped them based on the APIs, like attachments, snapshot, volumes etc.
14:48:40 <whoami-rajat> I'm happy to help but I've stopped working on it since this cycle due to other priorities
14:48:55 <whoami-rajat> so I'm okay if anyone else would like to drive this effort
14:50:16 <crohmann> I was just worried that the target of replacing cinderclient is moving (away) with more changes going into cinderclient. Once parity is achieved there will only be one codebase to maintain for clients.
14:51:04 <crohmann> If you like I gladly convert the document to a story on the storyboard.
14:51:34 <whoami-rajat> that was the original intent, we've asked contributors to propose patches for cinderclient as well as OSC/SDK
14:51:42 <whoami-rajat> also new CLI options are not accepted in cinderclient
14:51:52 <whoami-rajat> there was one patch recently merged though
14:52:02 <crohmann> Yeah, that kinda triggered me ;-)
14:52:13 <whoami-rajat> kgube, do you have a SDK alternative for the cinderclient change?
14:52:26 <whoami-rajat> i think nova is also interested in calling SDK rather than cinderclient for API calls
14:53:49 <kgube> whoami-rajat, I actually did write one sometime last year, but I never pushed it
14:54:39 <whoami-rajat> kgube, oh okay, would be great if you added that and i can review since cinder cores have +2 rights in osc and sdk
14:54:42 <kgube> I can try to rebase it and make a change for it
14:54:50 <whoami-rajat> great thanks
14:54:56 <whoami-rajat> and thanks crohmann for mentioning it
14:56:31 <whoami-rajat> we've 4 minutes left, anything else for open discussion?
14:57:28 <whoami-rajat> i think that's all for today
14:57:39 <whoami-rajat> thanks for joining
14:57:44 <whoami-rajat> #endmeeting