16:01:23 <scottda> #startmeeting cinder_testing
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16:01:36 <scottda> eharney, xyang1, gouthamr, akerr, smcginnis, cFouts, e0ne, geguileo, dulek, flip214, ntpttr patrickeast, _alastor_, DuncanT, erlon, josemello,mdarnell, karthikp
16:01:41 <e0ne> hi
16:01:48 <xyang1> hi
16:01:50 <eharney> hi
16:01:54 <dulek> o/
16:02:02 <karthikp_> Hi
16:02:30 <scottda> I'd like to talk Cinder Ocata Testing:
16:02:36 <scottda> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ocata-testing
16:03:21 <scottda> I believe that was cut-n-pasted from the Cinder Newton Testing etherpad, so needs some updating...
16:03:45 <scottda> But more importantly, we through the first one together at the end of Newton.
16:04:02 <scottda> With the idea "Hey, we need to test some of this stuff that lacks automated tests".
16:04:18 <scottda> So, we still need to do that for Ocata. And probably need to add some areas.
16:04:45 <smcginnis> I think some manual testing would also help us find missing areas in our automation too.
16:05:00 <scottda> And I'll add this to the regular cinder meeting agenda, for wider visibility.
16:05:08 <scottda> smcginnis: Yeah, for sure.
16:05:13 <smcginnis> And just things that test fine by could be improved as far as usability.
16:07:23 <scottda> I've been testing HA/AA latest patches for Manual cleanup...I've alerted geguileo to some issues.
16:07:50 <scottda> That's about the limit of my efforts since the New Year.
16:07:58 <geguileo> and I'll be digging into it probably tomorrow
16:08:46 <scottda> Sure. I assume you saw the conversation earlier today? About the entries in the Workers table ?
16:09:15 <scottda> geguileo: ^^^
16:09:16 <geguileo> scottda: I saw what we talked, I didn't read anything else
16:09:58 <scottda> ok, maybe read on about what dulek and I discussed. It might be an issue to address.
16:10:14 <geguileo> I've just read it
16:10:22 <geguileo> But we should not be removing workers
16:10:40 <geguileo> It should work even when there are workers in the table
16:10:47 <scottda> Right. But we need to be able to restart services after a crash.
16:10:53 <geguileo> otherwise it will not be able to do the cleanup on restart
16:11:03 <geguileo> And it should work
16:11:11 <geguileo> unless I've introduced a new bug
16:11:56 <scottda> OK, cool. I'm sure you'll figure it out.
16:13:09 <scottda> I didn't have anything specific to put on the PTG agenda for testing. But I'm tempted to put something on the agenda since I'm sure there's plenty to discuss. Any opinions on this?
16:14:22 <smcginnis> scottda: I wonder if we should at least pick one or two areas to focus on so we make sure they get tested, then two more, then two more.
16:14:49 <smcginnis> Basically keep it focused and target on getting specific things done so it's not too broad and general of a goal.
16:15:05 <scottda> smcginnis: Do you mean regarding the manual tests?
16:15:17 <adrianofr> Anyone willing to a short review? ;)   https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413428/
16:15:24 <scottda> Or to set a couple goals for Pike release?
16:16:03 <smcginnis> scottda: Both.
16:16:42 <scottda> Well, when we proposed manual tests for Newton, people just stepped up, as there were obvious owners for features...
16:16:53 <scottda> and people who were already testing stuff.
16:17:03 <scottda> So it helped identify gaps.
16:17:16 <smcginnis> scottda: What I kind of hoped would happen for Ocata (but didn't end up pushing like I should) was that we would have a few folks sign up to manual test and expand automated tests for certain areas. But I think it needs to be more focused.
16:17:21 <scottda> But I agree that for Pike planning we should pick 1-2 goals and prioritize them.
16:17:41 <smcginnis> And if we reach those 1-2 goals, add 1 or 2 more.
16:17:51 <scottda> yup
16:18:36 <scottda> But for the Ocata etherpad, I still think we should look for volunteers to cover manual testing of anything we can identify...
16:18:57 <smcginnis> I agree.
16:18:59 <scottda> It seems important enough to test the basics that we know aren't being automatically tested.
16:19:06 <scottda> ok, cool.
16:19:53 <scottda> Well, I'll bring up the Ocata needs at tomorrow's meeting...
16:20:13 <smcginnis> scottda: Cool, thanks.
16:20:24 <scottda> and I'll mention that we're looking for 1-2 priorities for P and put something on the PTG agenda, if that sounds right.
16:20:51 <smcginnis> Yeah, let's discuss that part in the meeting. But I think we can probably put that down as a potential PTG discussion.
16:22:22 <scottda> OK. Anyone have anything else to discuss?
16:23:18 <smcginnis> John's API attach changes could use some attention.
16:23:42 <smcginnis> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414632/ Attach API changes
16:23:59 <smcginnis> It would be great if we can get that in O so Nova can start looking at using it in P.
16:24:08 <scottda> Yeah. And I see it's on tomorrow's agenda, which is good.
16:24:13 <smcginnis> But it needs some testing and reviews to make sure it's in good shape.
16:24:54 <scottda> Yup. We'll see if we can get folks to commit. I know that I'll sign on for that.
16:25:27 <smcginnis> scottda: Excellent, I was hoping you'd say that. ;)
16:25:46 <scottda> ha..Just looking and it's my #11 priority for today.
16:26:05 <smcginnis> Binary 11? :P
16:26:10 <scottda> ha
16:26:37 <smcginnis> I don't have anything else.
16:26:56 <scottda> OK, me neither. I'll call it then...
16:27:01 <scottda> #endmeeting