00:02:11 <thinrichs> #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting
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00:02:21 <thinrichs> Hi all!
00:02:38 <ramineni_> hi
00:02:42 <thinrichs> Agenda for the week…
00:02:47 <aimeeu> hello
00:02:53 <thinrichs> 1. Newton
00:02:55 <thinrichs> 2. Barcelona
00:03:03 <thinrichs> 3. PTGs
00:03:04 <thinrichs> 4. status
00:03:11 <thinrichs> Anything else?
00:04:21 <thinrichs> #topic Newton
00:04:34 <thinrichs> It looks like we've got Newton ready to release!
00:04:54 <thinrichs> ekcs did a fantastic job of fixing a number of vital last minute bugs
00:05:30 <ekcs> Big big thanks to everyone for completing our biggest, most complex release in recent memory.
00:05:35 <thinrichs> We ended up spinning 3 release-candidates
00:06:30 <thinrichs> ekcs: HAHT was definitely a top-to-bottom effort that took the whole team spanned over at least 2 releases.
00:06:57 <thinrichs> It's also vital for production deployments
00:07:52 <thinrichs> One of the bugs that showed up late requires a schema change to do a proper fix
00:08:24 <thinrichs> We should probably do that now and decide whether to backport it to Newton or not
00:08:58 <thinrichs> so that (a) the next Newton release includes the proper fix and (b) it will be easier to backport bugfixes to Newton
00:09:28 <ekcs> great.
00:09:30 <thinrichs> I'd imagine that we'll end up seeing bugs that we'll want to fix in Newton, based on the nature of HAHT and how we finished it up so close to the deadline
00:10:13 <thinrichs> Maybe that's a good goal for Barcelona: get the fixes into master and Newton that we already know we need.
00:10:45 <thinrichs> And also get all the outstanding code that's been hanging around in gerrit merged
00:10:57 <thinrichs> Does that sound good?
00:11:06 <ekcs> great.
00:11:09 <thinrichs> Any questions/comments about Newton?
00:11:50 <thinrichs> #topic Barcelona
00:12:13 <thinrichs> We have an etherpad where I've been putting our schedule and recording people who wanted to talk with us
00:12:15 <thinrichs> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-ocata-design-summit
00:12:46 <thinrichs> I'm thinking we should reach out to some more people who might have use cases or feature requests
00:13:09 <thinrichs> Right now we have 4 people who want to talk.
00:13:41 <thinrichs> Neutron fwaas, Keystone quotas, NFV with Bryan and masahito
00:13:49 <thinrichs> Who else should we reach out to?
00:14:39 <masahito> Do you know Monasca team has progress?
00:15:25 <masahito> We has some talks in last 2 summit.
00:15:41 <thinrichs> masahito: that's a good suggestion.  I'll reach out to them
00:16:13 <thinrichs> I was also thinking about going down the list of congress-related talks to see if any of them want to meet up:
00:16:15 <thinrichs> https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=congress
00:17:21 <thinrichs> If anyone has thoughts, add them to the etherpad and ping ekcs or I
00:17:27 <thinrichs> or reach out to them yourselves
00:17:33 <aimeeu> For use cases, there are a few OPNFV projects other than Doctor and Copper that may use (or want to use) Congress
00:18:00 <thinrichs> aimeeu: examples?
00:18:42 <aimeeu> Moon and Policy Test are 2 that come to mind, but I don't know the current state of the project
00:18:58 <thinrichs> aimeeu: do you know any of the people working on those?
00:19:17 <aimeeu> I can get more info tomorrow
00:19:31 <aimeeu> No, but I can ask bryan_att
00:20:00 <thinrichs> That'd be great.  I'm happy to reach out to them, or you can of course
00:20:31 <aimeeu> I already have a meeting with him tomorrow, so I'll just add it to the agenda.
00:20:38 <thinrichs> aimeeu: Thanks!
00:20:46 <thinrichs> ramineni_: how go the dinner plans?
00:21:15 <ramineni_> thinrichs: reservation done for 27th
00:21:27 <ramineni_> i got the confirmation mail
00:22:18 <thinrichs> Great!  I'm looking forward to it.  Thanks for taking care of that
00:22:39 <ramineni_> np
00:22:49 <thinrichs> aimeeu: any word yet on whether you'll make it?
00:23:07 <aimeeu> Yes! My travel request has been approved!
00:23:19 * aimeeu happy dance happy dance
00:23:22 <thinrichs> Nice!
00:23:32 <masahito> Nice
00:23:38 <thinrichs> It'll be good to meet you in real life
00:23:44 <aimeeu> ha ha ha ha ha
00:23:47 <ekcs> = )
00:23:56 <ramineni_> great :)
00:24:47 <ramineni_> aimeeu: Oct 27th congress team dinner.. you are free right
00:25:12 <aimeeu> As of now, yes I am and plan to join you all.
00:25:29 <ramineni_> aimeeu: great
00:25:39 <aimeeu> Looking forward to meeting you all in person too.
00:26:03 <thinrichs> I'm so excited about the trip that I've started listening to beginner spanish podcasts to prep!
00:26:08 <thinrichs> Should be fun
00:26:13 <thinrichs> Anything else on Barcelona?
00:26:29 <ekcs> All I know is “no hablo espanol”
00:26:43 <aimeeu> :p
00:28:38 <thinrichs> #topic PTGs
00:29:03 <thinrichs> ekcs sent out an email just a bit ago about the split of the summit into a working session and the community forum
00:29:05 <thinrichs> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/105157.html
00:30:20 <thinrichs> I'll let everyone read that email and the follow up that ekcs sent
00:30:30 <thinrichs> which is here
00:30:32 <thinrichs> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/105159.html
00:31:11 <thinrichs> Obviously we'll all need to think about this and figure out what travel budgets look like,
00:31:19 <thinrichs> but it's maybe worth having people at least ask questions and make comments now
00:32:22 <aimeeu> I think the average developer will be sent to the PTGs rather than the Summits
00:32:54 <thinrichs> So of the 4 options ekcs laid out, you're thinking (1)
00:33:10 <aimeeu> Yep
00:34:03 <thinrichs> Anyone else have thoughts?
00:34:28 <thinrichs> masahito: you've had talks accepted at the last few summits.  Do you know what your plans are?
00:35:38 <masahito> As a Congress team member, I'm in favor of (1)
00:36:27 <thinrichs> masahito: If you get a presentation accepted at the summit, do you expect you'll be able to travel to both the summit and to the PTG?
00:36:43 <masahito> maybe.
00:37:27 <thinrichs> OK.  Any other thoughts?
00:38:07 <ekcs> I also think (1) makes sense, but the problem is people who are going to go to summit may not be able to make the PTG.
00:38:13 <aimeeu> I wonder if the OpenStack Foundation is going to offer travel support to attend the PTG
00:38:37 <ekcs> travelling 4 times a year is pretty big hit to both budget and productivity.
00:38:47 <thinrichs> ekcs: +1, +1
00:39:08 <aimeeu> but with no design sessions at the Summit, how many developers will go? Other than PTLs and Cores?
00:39:25 <clarkb> aimeeu: yes aiui the plan is to offer travel support for the ptg
00:39:48 <clarkb> that came up in the infra meeting too and ttx confirmed
00:40:01 <aimeeu> clarkb: thanks!  I know the company I work for isn't going to send people to both, and the developers I've talked to would rather attend the PTG
00:41:12 <thinrichs> clarkb: any more details on that?  They can't offer it to everyone.  Do they maybe offer it to people who had talks accepted at the summit?
00:41:55 <clarkb> thinrichs: you'd have to ask ttx
00:42:09 <thinrichs> clarkb: ok
00:42:42 <aimeeu> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Travel_Support_Program
00:43:17 <aimeeu> here's another that may be of interest:  #link http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/tips-for-getting-a-travel-grant-to-the-next-openstack-summit/
00:45:03 <thinrichs> Travel support is great, but we shouldn't make a decision on PTGs assuming people will get travel support.
00:45:29 <thinrichs> Option (1) seems good to me too
00:46:34 <thinrichs> We still have 10 days to make a decision for the first PTG.  But it seems pretty clear what most people are thinking.
00:47:03 <ekcs> yea we can maybe finalize at next meeting.
00:47:09 <thinrichs> ekcs: sounds good
00:47:13 <thinrichs> #topic Status
00:47:24 <thinrichs> Anyone have status updates to give?  Things that we should discuss as a group?
00:48:33 <ekcs> This week I'm just going to work on post-newton bug fixes, including proper fixes we couldn't do.
00:48:33 <ekcs> Also documenting lessons learned during Newton release. Will share if helpful. I'd also love to any feedback from you all.
00:49:29 <thinrichs> A postmortem would be good.  This release didn't go quite as smoothly as normal.
00:49:55 <thinrichs> But I think that was more just a timing issue—that we finished a large, complex feature close to the deadline
00:50:57 <thinrichs> Only thing I can really think of to do differently is prioritize tests for those core features higher.
00:53:11 <thinrichs> Another topic.  Now that Newton is out the door, ekcs will be taking over the PTL duties.
00:53:23 <thinrichs> Obviously I'll help make that transition a smooth one.
00:54:21 <thinrichs> I'm excited to see him take the reigns!
00:55:02 <ekcs> I’ll need plenty of help and support from everyone. thanks = p
00:55:14 <ekcs> and grace.
00:55:42 <thinrichs> ekcs: It'll be fun.  You'll be great!  We'll all help however you need.
00:56:41 <thinrichs> Let's make that the end of the meeting.
00:56:50 <thinrichs> Thanks all!  See you next week!
00:56:58 <aimeeu> Thanks everyone
00:57:07 * njohnston looks forward to meeting you all in Barcelona
00:57:31 <masahito> bye.
00:57:34 <thinrichs> njohnston: we're looking forward to it too!
00:57:45 <thinrichs> njohnston: were you watching the meeting the whole time?
00:57:56 <njohnston> Yes, auditing the course :-)
00:58:08 <ekcs> haha hi njohnston
00:58:32 <thinrichs> njohnston: if I knew I would have had you intro yourself.  We can do that next week if you're around or wait til Barcelona
00:58:39 <njohnston> Sure!
00:58:48 <masahito> hello njohnston
00:59:03 <njohnston> Thanks all for the warm welcome
00:59:07 <aimeeu> njohnston: greetings!
00:59:56 <thinrichs> Out of time for this week, but we will hear a bit from njohnston next week hopefully
01:00:02 <njohnston> I'll be here
01:00:06 <thinrichs> great!
01:00:12 <thinrichs> #endmeeting