00:05:27 <thinrichs> #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting 00:05:28 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Nov 10 00:05:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:05:29 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 00:05:31 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' 00:05:44 <ramineni_> Hi 00:05:56 <masahito> hi 00:06:24 <thinrichs> This may be the first time I've been on time to the irc meeting the week of the U.S. time change in the fall 00:06:25 <thinrichs> :) 00:06:49 <thinrichs> ekcs is out of town, so he asked me to run the meeting. 00:06:50 <aimeeu> I know the feeling/1 00:06:54 <thinrichs> Agenda: 00:06:58 <thinrichs> 1. ocata-1 00:07:04 <thinrichs> 2. Newton.0.1 00:07:20 <thinrichs> 3. ocata-2+ 00:07:34 <thinrichs> 4. Gate 00:07:39 <thinrichs> 5. critical patch 00:07:44 <thinrichs> 6. PTG 00:07:47 <thinrichs> Phew! 00:07:49 <thinrichs> Anything else? 00:08:40 <thinrichs> #topic ocata-1 00:08:54 <thinrichs> ocata-1 is scheduled for next week. (Time flies!) 00:09:30 <thinrichs> Here's the list of work scheduled for ocata-1 00:09:31 <thinrichs> https://launchpad.net/congress/+milestone/ocata-1 00:10:20 <thinrichs> ekcs says he's confident about getting the ones he has signed up for done 00:11:15 <thinrichs> masahito, ramineni_: for the ones you signed up for, does it look like they'll be finished? 00:11:54 <masahito> I could push it by the day, but don't have confidence to merger it. 00:13:06 <ramineni_> The one assigned to me looks like already fixed 00:13:13 <ramineni_> I'll check again 00:13:59 <thinrichs> ramineni_: ekcs left a note about re-opening the bug. See the bottom of the page... 00:14:04 <thinrichs> https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1612008 00:14:04 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1612008 in congress "HAHT - Update synchronizer for distributed deployment" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to Anusha (anusha-iiitm) 00:15:17 <thinrichs> Looks like there's a number of bugs no one signed up for. I picked up one of them. 00:15:53 <ramineni_1> thinrichs: that is also fixed by ekcs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394598/ 00:15:58 <thinrichs> 2 actually, since they're both the same problem 00:16:06 <ramineni_1> the reopened one 00:16:22 <thinrichs> ramineni_: maybe we just add a reference to ekcs's patch then and close it. 00:16:53 <ramineni_1> thinrichs: yes, ill do that 00:17:06 <thinrichs> ramineni_: there's one more High priority work item that's unassigned 00:17:49 <thinrichs> ramineni_ and/or aimeeu: maybe you could take a look at that one, if you have time. 00:17:59 <thinrichs> https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1637185 00:18:00 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1637185 in congress "two nodes may insert rules using conflicting schema" [High,Confirmed] 00:18:32 <thinrichs> That looks like a pretty substantial change though. Would be good to at least understand more before ocata-1. 00:18:33 <ramineni_1> thinrichs: ok 00:19:15 <thinrichs> First question is whether it is worth fixing 00:19:36 <thinrichs> What are the problems that it creates? 00:19:49 <thinrichs> for the users? 00:20:10 <thinrichs> Anything else for ocata1? 00:20:26 <ramineni_1> thinrichs: but synchronizing rules before create wouldnt solve that issue 00:21:00 <thinrichs> I think it's not even a distributed-systems problem. 00:21:15 <thinrichs> People could write p(x) :- q(x) and p(x) :- q(x,y) on a single node. 00:21:40 <thinrichs> If q is a datasource schema, we're checking that already and will throw out whichever q is wrong. 00:22:02 <thinrichs> If q is defined by a rule, the system won't die—it will pick the correct one during evaluation. 00:22:39 <thinrichs> Today I don't think we check schemas on rules at all. 00:22:50 <thinrichs> except for the datasource schemas, I mean 00:23:23 <thinrichs> #topic Newton0.1 00:23:43 <thinrichs> We're planning to do another Newton release around ocata-1. 00:23:50 <thinrichs> Anyone have anything else they think needs to go in? 00:24:01 <ramineni_1> thinrichs: i didnt understand the problem correctly, so picking up correct at evaluation should be ok ? 00:24:09 <ramineni_1> may be we could discus later 00:25:21 <thinrichs> ramineni_1: agreed that picking up correct at eval seems okay. Only downside I can see is that people will make mistakes and not realize it. But not sure it's worth the effort to fix it given the other work we're trying to do. 00:26:05 <ramineni_1> thinrichs: ok 00:27:32 <thinrichs> Seems that no one has anything else pressing to push into the next Newton release. 00:27:54 <thinrichs> #topic ocata-2+ 00:28:51 <thinrichs> Looking forward to the rest of ocata, we should look at the work items and try to understand if that's everything we want to do 00:29:03 <thinrichs> and whether the milestone assignments make sense. 00:29:28 <thinrichs> Said another way, let's take a quick look at ocata-2 bugs and see if we think they're reasonable... 00:29:49 <thinrichs> https://launchpad.net/congress/+milestone/ocata-2 00:32:07 <aimeeu> I told ecks I should be able to find the time to fix the minor bug assigned to me 00:33:03 <ramineni_1> thinrichs: mine seems to be very old bug , from kilo , ill check if the problem exists still 00:34:41 <thinrichs> ramineni_1: you may have signed up for that a long time ago. It's probably just never been fixed. 00:34:57 <ramineni_1> thinrichs: yes, ill have a look at it 00:35:11 <thinrichs> Janet was assigned to one of the bugs, but she hasn't contributed for a long time, so I removed her. My guess is that it was another old bug 00:36:14 <thinrichs> Any other thoughts/comments on work items for ocata-2? 00:37:40 <thinrichs> If there are things that should be added-to/deleted-from that list of work items, go ahead and do that. 00:37:48 <masahito> got it. 00:38:08 <masahito> btw, sorry slow response. I'm in kubecon@seattle now :-) 00:38:12 <thinrichs> #topic Gate 00:38:39 <thinrichs> There's been some instability in the gate with tempest Doctor test and tempest HA test 00:38:51 <thinrichs> Anyone make any progress on that? 00:39:16 <ramineni_1> thinrichs: i tried to debug , troubleshooting patch always passes :) 00:39:35 <ramineni_1> thinrichs: one looks like always timeout 00:40:39 <thinrichs> Can we replicate the timeout locally? 00:41:24 <ramineni_1> no, i tried to reproduce doctor error, but couldnt 00:41:50 <ramineni_1> thinrichs: HA test , ill try to reproduce 00:42:50 <thinrichs> ramineni_1: great! 00:43:02 <thinrichs> Anything else to discuss about the gate? 00:44:28 <thinrichs> #topic critical patch 00:44:52 <thinrichs> ekcs asked us all to look at the following patch, but then I noticed everyone did and I had yesterday, so I +2ed it 00:45:00 <thinrichs> https://review.openstack.org/394598 00:45:12 <thinrichs> and cherry-picked it to Newton, as he requested 00:45:29 <thinrichs> #topic PTG 00:45:42 <thinrichs> Did everyone see that the PTG registration is now officially open? 00:46:06 <aimeeu> Yes - what days are you all going to be there? 00:47:39 <masahito> Congress session is scheduled in Wed.-Thu. 00:47:49 <thinrichs> masahito: do you have a link to the schedule? 00:48:16 <masahito> #link http://www.openstack.org/ptg 00:48:43 <aimeeu> I guess I'm asking if there are sessions on M-T that are relevant to Congress 00:49:52 <thinrichs> I haven't heard about any session M-T that we should be attending 00:51:12 <thinrichs> ekcs should have more info. 00:51:21 <aimeeu> ok - thanks 00:51:32 <thinrichs> That's all for the agenda today. open discussion for the last 9 minutes. 00:51:35 <thinrichs> #topic open discussion 00:51:48 <thinrichs> Or status updates 00:52:46 <thinrichs> If no one has anything to discuss, we can end a bit early. 00:53:32 <thinrichs> Let's end early then. Thanks all! 00:53:48 <ramineni_1> thinrichs: ok 00:53:54 <aimeeu> bye! 00:54:12 <thinrichs> #endmeeting