00:01:37 <ekcs> #startmeeting congressteammeeting 00:01:38 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Jun 22 00:01:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:01:40 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 00:01:42 <ekcs> hi all! 00:01:43 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' 00:01:45 <ramineni_> Hi 00:02:23 <ekcs> welcome back. topics are here as usual. feel free to comment/add https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics 00:02:59 <ekcs> hi ramineni_ 00:05:08 <masahito> hi 00:05:18 <ekcs> hi masahito ! 00:05:36 <ekcs> topics here as usual https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics =) 00:06:47 <ekcs> ok let’s get started then! 00:07:42 <ekcs> #topic policy library discussions 00:08:33 <ekcs> Not sure if there is much new to discuss. but I’ll start with a quick update. 00:08:52 <ekcs> this patch is essentially ready to merge I think. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471954/ 00:09:05 <ekcs> it’s the data, service, and basic api for policy lib. 00:09:31 <ekcs> I expect to add a quick tempest smoke test today and then hopefully we can merge it soon. 00:10:07 <ekcs> then there is this patch that handles “installing” policy lib and also loading library policies on congress startup. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475605/ 00:10:27 <ekcs> that’s all the update from me. anything to talk about on policy lib? 00:11:12 <ramineni_> ekcs: I'm leaning towards adding flag to enable disable 00:11:26 <ramineni_> Do you think it's not necessary 00:12:03 <masahito> I'll check the patch today. 00:12:11 <ramineni_> For policy lib functionality 00:12:34 <ekcs> I don’t feel it’s necessary because the library won’t get in your way at all or affect anything else you’re doing. but definitely want to hear others’ thoughts. 00:13:04 <masahito> I think it's already reviewed much. so there would be no problem. 00:13:05 <ekcs> it doesn’t change the behavior of any other functionality in congress 00:13:26 <ekcs> as far as I can see. 00:14:14 <ramineni_> Ya ..we are loading to database and all ..if it's not needed in production .. They should be able to disable it 00:14:14 <ekcs> ramineni_: what kinds of scenario are you thinking about where it would be problematic to have the library enabled but ignored? 00:15:32 <ramineni_> Anyway ..it's not much costly operation ..unless there are too many sample policies to load 00:15:40 <ekcs> ramineni_: one of the steps of the stand-alone install is to copy over the library policy files to /etc/congress/whatever. 00:16:05 <ekcs> if someone deploying in production doesn’t want it, they can just skip that step or keep the directory empty. 00:16:18 <ekcs> do you tihnk it suffices to document that in install guide? 00:16:36 <ramineni_> Ohok ..that's good 00:17:04 <ramineni_> Ya .. Should be good .. Thanks 00:17:11 <ekcs> ok then! 00:17:19 <ekcs> and thanks masahito 00:18:29 <ekcs> another thing on policy library: it’d be great to get more sample policies in there. please think about policies we could include. 00:19:32 <ekcs> masahito: since you deployed congress in lab, do you have any policies that’d make sense in policy lib? 00:20:29 <masahito> ekcs: yup. I try to 00:22:08 <ekcs> cool thanks masahito ! the policies can do into this google doc or committed directly to gerrit. #link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12f1VciulhT9yCYOc7jiulGiLT-tFpffLxNOpr-2QX2I/edit# 00:23:04 <ekcs> anyway yea hopefully we can all draw on our experiences in cloud and NFV and whatever we have experience in, and i’m sure there are useful policy examples =) 00:24:06 <ekcs> anything else on policy library? 00:25:48 <ekcs> ok let’s move on then =) 00:25:52 <ekcs> #topic PTG 00:26:27 <ekcs> So we need to figure out soon-ish whether we want to do physical PTG or not. 00:27:00 <ekcs> I think we all thought it’d be good to set time aside to discuss for the next cycle. 00:27:17 <ekcs> but we could think about whether to do physical or virtual meetup. 00:27:23 <ekcs> any thoughts about that? 00:28:09 <masahito> either is ok for me. 00:28:15 <ekcs> masahito: have you done virtual meetup for blazar? how was that experience? 00:29:15 <masahito> It's not bad. 00:29:45 <ekcs> got it. 00:29:53 <masahito> The problems of virtual meetup I found out are two. 00:30:44 <masahito> 1. less time: we have limited time for the meetup, so we've done less discussion. 00:32:43 <masahito> 2. no whiteboard: drawing pictures for new features helps us to understand the roadmap or what we're thinking. but there's no whiteboard in the virtual meetup. 00:33:14 <ekcs> got it. on (2), did you guys try a screen sharing conferencing software? 00:33:29 <masahito> of course, if we have some tools, #2 is not a problem. 00:34:02 <ekcs> i see ok. maybe i’ll talk to you more later about tools if we decide to do virtual. 00:34:04 <ekcs> ramineni_: any thoughts on which would work better for you and for the project? 00:34:26 <ramineni_> either is ok for me 00:34:36 <masahito> we tried to use gotomeeting at the last PTG, but not good the Internet connection frequently disconnected. 00:35:17 <ekcs> i see. 00:36:00 <ekcs> about (1) less time, was it more because you can’t have a big time slot when people are in different time zones? or more because when people don’t travel it’s hard to get away from the regular work? 00:36:52 <masahito> mainly because of time zones 00:37:05 <ekcs> got it. 00:37:42 <masahito> the main reason we decided to do the virtual meetup was we can gather at Boston Summit instead of the PTG 00:39:20 <ekcs> yea that’s something I was thinking about. if we went virtual, I thoughts we could do a 2HR (hard to do anything longer given TZ) session each day for 3-5 days. does that sound reasonable? 00:39:45 <ekcs> I have listed out some options for time of the day: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics 00:39:53 <thinrichs> That sounds reasonable to me 00:41:01 <ekcs> maybe we can take a look and think about these options, and think about which ones we’d prefer as well as whether these are preferrable to physical travel or not 00:41:06 <ekcs> oh hi thinrichs ! 00:41:28 <thinrichs> (I was late and didn't want to interrupt) 00:42:06 <thinrichs> It seems like the tradeoff here is 3-5 days of 2-hour sessions versus a couple full days. 00:43:01 <ekcs> right. and also someone is always going to have to do odd hours no matter what time we choose. 00:45:16 <masahito> ekcs: do you have a plan to have the forum session in Sydney Summit? 00:46:00 <ekcs> masahito: I think I’ll do onboarding forum session. not sure about other sessions. 00:46:50 <ekcs> as I understand it forum sessions are mainly intended for things that concern multiple projects? 00:47:45 <masahito> yes. 00:47:47 <ekcs> we may have some good proposals for forums sessions that are of interest to a larger openstack audience. but I haven’t put much thought into it so far. 00:49:06 <ekcs> if anyone has suggestions for congress relevant forum sessions we could propose definitely email me =) 00:49:48 <ekcs> any more thoughts about preferences for physical vs virtual, and on the possible options for virtual meet times? 00:50:20 <ekcs> we can think about it more and maybe discuss over ML. 00:50:36 <ekcs> or try and decide next meeting. 00:51:36 <ekcs> anyway we have 9 minutes left. please feel free to voice anything else on PTG or other topics =) 00:52:36 <ekcs> oh one more thing: instead of discussion on ML, probbaly easier to add thoughts and comments on the etherpad itself. #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics 00:55:01 <masahito> updates from OPNFV side 00:55:39 <masahito> I attended OPNFV summit last week, and had a demo of OPNFV Doctor project. 00:56:50 <masahito> The demo was success and about 60-70 people saw the Demo that used Congress. 00:57:08 <ekcs> masahito: that’s great! 00:57:19 <masahito> just in 2 days. 00:57:26 <ekcs> would you mind sharing a link to the slides or video? 00:58:37 <masahito> of course. I try to find 00:58:42 <ekcs> thanks! 00:58:56 <ekcs> ok ending in 1 min. 00:59:24 <ekcs> maybe share on #congress /ML later if you don’t have it =) 00:59:50 <ekcs> alright thanks everyone! have a great weekend and see you next week. 01:00:03 <ekcs> #endmeeting