00:01:37 #startmeeting congressteammeeting 00:01:38 Meeting started Thu Jun 22 00:01:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:01:40 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 00:01:42 hi all! 00:01:43 The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' 00:01:45 Hi 00:02:23 welcome back. topics are here as usual. feel free to comment/add https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics 00:02:59 hi ramineni_ 00:05:08 hi 00:05:18 hi masahito ! 00:05:36 topics here as usual https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics =) 00:06:47 ok let’s get started then! 00:07:42 #topic policy library discussions 00:08:33 Not sure if there is much new to discuss. but I’ll start with a quick update. 00:08:52 this patch is essentially ready to merge I think. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471954/ 00:09:05 it’s the data, service, and basic api for policy lib. 00:09:31 I expect to add a quick tempest smoke test today and then hopefully we can merge it soon. 00:10:07 then there is this patch that handles “installing” policy lib and also loading library policies on congress startup. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475605/ 00:10:27 that’s all the update from me. anything to talk about on policy lib? 00:11:12 ekcs: I'm leaning towards adding flag to enable disable 00:11:26 Do you think it's not necessary 00:12:03 I'll check the patch today. 00:12:11 For policy lib functionality 00:12:34 I don’t feel it’s necessary because the library won’t get in your way at all or affect anything else you’re doing. but definitely want to hear others’ thoughts. 00:13:04 I think it's already reviewed much. so there would be no problem. 00:13:05 it doesn’t change the behavior of any other functionality in congress 00:13:26 as far as I can see. 00:14:14 Ya ..we are loading to database and all ..if it's not needed in production .. They should be able to disable it 00:14:14 ramineni_: what kinds of scenario are you thinking about where it would be problematic to have the library enabled but ignored? 00:15:32 Anyway ..it's not much costly operation ..unless there are too many sample policies to load 00:15:40 ramineni_: one of the steps of the stand-alone install is to copy over the library policy files to /etc/congress/whatever. 00:16:05 if someone deploying in production doesn’t want it, they can just skip that step or keep the directory empty. 00:16:18 do you tihnk it suffices to document that in install guide? 00:16:36 Ohok ..that's good 00:17:04 Ya .. Should be good .. Thanks 00:17:11 ok then! 00:17:19 and thanks masahito 00:18:29 another thing on policy library: it’d be great to get more sample policies in there. please think about policies we could include. 00:19:32 masahito: since you deployed congress in lab, do you have any policies that’d make sense in policy lib? 00:20:29 ekcs: yup. I try to 00:22:08 cool thanks masahito ! the policies can do into this google doc or committed directly to gerrit. #link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12f1VciulhT9yCYOc7jiulGiLT-tFpffLxNOpr-2QX2I/edit# 00:23:04 anyway yea hopefully we can all draw on our experiences in cloud and NFV and whatever we have experience in, and i’m sure there are useful policy examples =) 00:24:06 anything else on policy library? 00:25:48 ok let’s move on then =) 00:25:52 #topic PTG 00:26:27 So we need to figure out soon-ish whether we want to do physical PTG or not. 00:27:00 I think we all thought it’d be good to set time aside to discuss for the next cycle. 00:27:17 but we could think about whether to do physical or virtual meetup. 00:27:23 any thoughts about that? 00:28:09 either is ok for me. 00:28:15 masahito: have you done virtual meetup for blazar? how was that experience? 00:29:15 It's not bad. 00:29:45 got it. 00:29:53 The problems of virtual meetup I found out are two. 00:30:44 1. less time: we have limited time for the meetup, so we've done less discussion. 00:32:43 2. no whiteboard: drawing pictures for new features helps us to understand the roadmap or what we're thinking. but there's no whiteboard in the virtual meetup. 00:33:14 got it. on (2), did you guys try a screen sharing conferencing software? 00:33:29 of course, if we have some tools, #2 is not a problem. 00:34:02 i see ok. maybe i’ll talk to you more later about tools if we decide to do virtual. 00:34:04 ramineni_: any thoughts on which would work better for you and for the project? 00:34:26 either is ok for me 00:34:36 we tried to use gotomeeting at the last PTG, but not good the Internet connection frequently disconnected. 00:35:17 i see. 00:36:00 about (1) less time, was it more because you can’t have a big time slot when people are in different time zones? or more because when people don’t travel it’s hard to get away from the regular work? 00:36:52 mainly because of time zones 00:37:05 got it. 00:37:42 the main reason we decided to do the virtual meetup was we can gather at Boston Summit instead of the PTG 00:39:20 yea that’s something I was thinking about. if we went virtual, I thoughts we could do a 2HR (hard to do anything longer given TZ) session each day for 3-5 days. does that sound reasonable? 00:39:45 I have listed out some options for time of the day: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics 00:39:53 That sounds reasonable to me 00:41:01 maybe we can take a look and think about these options, and think about which ones we’d prefer as well as whether these are preferrable to physical travel or not 00:41:06 oh hi thinrichs ! 00:41:28 (I was late and didn't want to interrupt) 00:42:06 It seems like the tradeoff here is 3-5 days of 2-hour sessions versus a couple full days. 00:43:01 right. and also someone is always going to have to do odd hours no matter what time we choose. 00:45:16 ekcs: do you have a plan to have the forum session in Sydney Summit? 00:46:00 masahito: I think I’ll do onboarding forum session. not sure about other sessions. 00:46:50 as I understand it forum sessions are mainly intended for things that concern multiple projects? 00:47:45 yes. 00:47:47 we may have some good proposals for forums sessions that are of interest to a larger openstack audience. but I haven’t put much thought into it so far. 00:49:06 if anyone has suggestions for congress relevant forum sessions we could propose definitely email me =) 00:49:48 any more thoughts about preferences for physical vs virtual, and on the possible options for virtual meet times? 00:50:20 we can think about it more and maybe discuss over ML. 00:50:36 or try and decide next meeting. 00:51:36 anyway we have 9 minutes left. please feel free to voice anything else on PTG or other topics =) 00:52:36 oh one more thing: instead of discussion on ML, probbaly easier to add thoughts and comments on the etherpad itself. #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics 00:55:01 updates from OPNFV side 00:55:39 I attended OPNFV summit last week, and had a demo of OPNFV Doctor project. 00:56:50 The demo was success and about 60-70 people saw the Demo that used Congress. 00:57:08 masahito: that’s great! 00:57:19 just in 2 days. 00:57:26 would you mind sharing a link to the slides or video? 00:58:37 of course. I try to find 00:58:42 thanks! 00:58:56 ok ending in 1 min. 00:59:24 maybe share on #congress /ML later if you don’t have it =) 00:59:50 alright thanks everyone! have a great weekend and see you next week. 01:00:03 #endmeeting