22:00:30 #startmeeting containers 22:00:31 Meeting started Tue Jul 15 22:00:30 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is erw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:00:32 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 22:00:35 The meeting name has been set to 'containers' 22:00:39 o/ 22:00:46 o/ 22:00:46 Roll call 22:00:52 Thomas Maddox 22:00:58 Andrew Melton 22:01:00 Eric Windisch 22:01:30 that’s it? 22:01:42 alright. 22:01:47 Hello everyone 22:01:51 hello 22:02:03 #topic Announcements 22:02:12 o/ 22:02:22 Rick Harris 22:02:30 anyone that shows up is welcome to announce themselves at any point. 22:02:43 Iqbal Mohomed, IBM Research 22:02:44 Announcing the mid-cycle meetup for July 28th-21st 22:02:51 *31st 22:03:07 Beaverton, Oregon (outside of Portland). Intel campus. 22:03:27 co-located with the Nova meetup, but note that we have one extra day. 22:03:38 don’t make a mistake and only book for the 30th… we’re staying until the 31st. :) 22:03:40 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/040095.html 22:04:08 any questions / issues/ concerns with the mid-cycle? 22:04:46 okay then… if anyone has issues or concerns, bring it up in open discussion. 22:04:55 any other announcements? 22:05:02 What's the schedule looking like for the 31st? I have a flight out at 6PM that day. 22:05:25 Maxim Nestratov, Parallels 22:05:49 thomasem: I believe we have a breakout room all week, so tbd. 22:05:57 Okay, cool. 22:06:06 If that's the case, then awesome 22:06:07 =] 22:06:09 thomasem: from the Icehouse mid-cycle, however, I’d say that we tend to get out by 5pm. 22:06:20 Ah 22:07:01 Wells, I'll have to keep that in mind. Might just have to bugger off a bit early. 22:07:26 sorry. I’m sure we’ll all have a better idea for the next meetup, after we do this one. 22:07:36 last call for announcements 22:07:47 #topic Review Action Items 22:07:52 Okey dokey 22:07:59 "Eric Windisch to check with Mikal for guidance on the best approach for submitting specification drafts for community discussion" 22:08:29 I spoke to Mikal, and he deferred to the mailing list and the mid-cycle meetup. 22:09:18 the mid-cycle is where Nova has, in general, decided to make this determination - as to where/when to take K specs 22:09:31 John Garbutt actually sent out an email just today about a similar topic. He wants to start discussing and locking down how K will handle specs. 22:09:46 Mikal suggests we sound-off in response to that thread 22:10:07 no other action items, and this segways to Status on Proposal Process 22:10:12 o/ - late 22:10:17 (btw, our agenda is: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers) 22:10:29 #topic Status on Proposal Process 22:10:36 has anyone made progress on proposals? 22:11:49 last meeting, we were discussing the creation of an etherpad and individual efforts to create these specs 22:12:17 I volunteered to work on a spec, but I have not yet had the cycles to do it. 22:12:34 adrian_otto had also suggested he would work on a spec, but he is on PTO 22:13:05 if nobody else… then I will propose we link an etherpad for further collaboration offline 22:13:33 beuller? 22:13:38 +1 on the etherpad, it would allow people to contribute when they're free 22:13:45 +1 from me also 22:13:52 instead of at these specific times 22:13:53 +1 22:14:01 +1 22:14:04 Yep, it'll let us utilize our more productive cycles 22:14:19 Let's create it right now, so all people here will have a link 22:14:28 sure, makes sense 22:14:29 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/containers-service-k-spec-discuss 22:14:34 Thanks 22:14:38 perfect 22:14:46 lets have a moment to fill in some basics there 22:17:08 okay- done. 22:17:48 attendees: if you think someone might want to contribute to this spec process, please bring it to their attention and have them contact either Adrian Cole or myself. 22:18:17 Sounds good to me. 22:18:18 anything else? 22:18:59 #topic Open Discussion 22:19:17 so I’d like to also suggest we put together and etherpad of topics we’d like to discuss at the mid-cycle 22:19:55 I think the spec discussion will be a big part of that, but we can work on listing any other concerns, questions, etc that we might have as a group. 22:20:05 I added one regarding libvirt-lxc tempest test support to the main mid-cycle one... would that fit in both? 22:20:20 sorry to drop in late. I just have a moment to share one idea 22:20:22 erw: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/containers-service-juno-midcycle-topics 22:20:28 thomasem: it’s almost a good point that we might simply extend that one 22:20:42 (that is, if that was your point: it would be a good one) 22:21:20 adrian_otto: please. 22:21:25 Okay, yeah. I'll reference it. 22:21:27 should we decide/vote on our own etherpad, or sharing in NOva’s? 22:21:43 Oh, I think I see what you mean 22:21:44 lol 22:21:46 I had suggested that we meet on 7/31 after the Nova Meetup concludes. After discussing with Mikal, I think maybe we should not 22:22:10 we will get a dedicated breakout room for 7-28 - 7/30 22:22:24 but apparently Nova devs get grouchy after 3 days. 22:22:34 adrian_otto: you might have just scored me a free day in Portland 22:22:35 Might be counter-productive to try to meet too long 22:22:52 I don't think the main mid-cycle etherpad is too crowded to include our stuff, tbh: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-nova-mid-cycle-meetup 22:23:02 And it'll get more visibility 22:23:07 plus, I have a conflict that will prevent me from staying on the 31st. 22:23:24 thomasem: that’s virtually empty, but if it grows as it did last mid-cycle, I’d concur. 22:23:34 so I'll be there to help out the first 3 days. 22:23:34 lets link our etherpad from the main one 22:23:35 I see 22:23:38 okay 22:24:14 done 22:24:23 cool 22:25:01 adrian_otto: if we won’t do the 31st, could you send out an update to the ML? 22:25:05 I've got a question, how's parking/getting into the building going to work at the mid-cycle? have any of those details gone out 22:25:34 I know that, apmelton 22:25:44 the intel campus has lots of parking 22:25:52 apmelton: some of the detailed logistics were discussed during the Nova meetings, but I don’t think much of it has trickled out of there. 22:25:52 you just drive up, there is no perimeter gate 22:26:33 adrian_otto: sounds good 22:26:52 the event leads met by conference yesterday to address a list of concerns 22:27:12 there will be internet wifi for guests, lunch provided, coffee breaks. 22:27:30 three rooms, with a 4th that will be added for the Ironic+Nova joint discussions 22:27:54 so one room for Nova, another for Ironic, one for Nova+Ironic, and one for Containers 22:28:39 you check in in the lobby with the security desk, and there MAY be an Intel escort to bring you a short walk to the meeting room. 22:28:56 no red flags came up. 22:29:17 cool 22:29:21 Sounds good 22:29:30 ok, sorry to swoop and run, but time for me to go 22:29:40 adrian_otto: thanks. will you send that email? 22:29:42 thanks for chairing erw! 22:29:44 np 22:30:09 erw: yes, at my first opportunity, probably tomorrow 22:30:12 thanks 22:30:14 #action adrian_otto to send email amending dates of mid-cycle 22:30:33 take care adrian_otto 22:30:40 finally, just some update from the Docker side... 22:31:09 Ian Main and Chris Alfonso updated and tested the glance patch, so we can eliminate the docker-registry piece. 22:31:15 no other important news, otherwise. 22:31:28 anyone have anything else? 22:31:53 on the libvirt-lxc side of things, s1rp and I still have a few patches, but slow progress is being made on getting them merged 22:32:28 it seems like always, theres a burst of review activity then nothing 22:32:34 or the gate just isn't working :-/ 22:33:16 Trying to find the links 22:33:57 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106405/ 22:34:09 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102324/6 22:34:33 apmelton: You have that userns one handy? 22:34:39 thomasem: there's a bunch, we probably shouldn't link them all :) 22:34:44 oh okay 22:35:36 if you guys do need reviews, though, it’s okay to link them. Maybe not all of them 22:35:49 Or slap them on the etherpad 22:35:53 but I think it’s okay to link particaruly blocking issues that need eyes 22:35:59 what I really need reviews on is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98888/ 22:36:00 *particularly 22:36:05 it's the very base of the userns patch 22:36:07 those two have been sititing a while so good to highlight 22:36:24 and I haven't heard anything from the reviewer who -1'd it 22:36:31 so I kinda need more opinions 22:36:48 apmelton: and I’m actually +2 on requirements, so I’ll take a look at that 22:37:02 thanks erw! 22:37:29 apmelton: yeah but Sean isn’t someone I’d want to cross. ;) 22:37:32 anyway... 22:37:34 anything else ? :) 22:37:45 if not, we’ll call it a wrap. 22:38:13 conversation can continue in #openstack-containers if desired 22:38:14 #endmeeting