16:02:57 <hongbin> #startmeeting containers 16:02:58 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Feb 16 16:02:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:02:59 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:03:01 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'containers' 16:03:02 <dimtruck> o/ 16:03:05 <wznoinsk> o/ 16:03:06 <hongbin> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-02-16_1600_UTC 16:03:15 <hongbin> #topic Roll Call 16:03:15 <wanghua> o/ 16:03:19 <muralia1> o/ 16:03:19 <Tango|2> o/ 16:03:20 <strigazi> o/ 16:03:20 <levi_b> o/ 16:03:22 <dane_leblanc> o/ 16:03:23 <himanshu_garg> o/ 16:03:23 <rpothier> o/ 16:03:25 <juggler> o/ 16:03:30 <coreyob> o/ 16:04:02 <rochaporto> o/ 16:04:25 <hongbin> Thanks for joining the meeting dimtruck wznoinsk wanghua muralia1 Tango|2 strigazi levi_b dane_leblanc himanshu_garg rpothier juggler coolsvap|away rochaporto 16:04:32 <eghobo> o/ 16:04:35 <hongbin> #topic Announcements 16:04:42 <hongbin> 1) adrian_otto is travelling today, and may be unable to join us. Our pro-tem chair will be Hongbin. 16:04:53 <hongbin> 2) Our midcycle meetup happens this week. You must RSVP to attend. 16:05:02 <hongbin> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum/Midcycle Midcycle Meetup Details 16:05:27 <hongbin> Any other announcement from our team member? 16:05:54 <hongbin> #topic Review Action Items 16:06:07 <hongbin> 1) bradjones and adrian_otto to work on a demo of the Magnum UI for publication on the Magnum project wiki page. Status: In-Progress. 16:06:23 <hongbin> Detail: Brad will be unable to attend today, but worked on this with adrian_otto last week. We expect to have most of the recording finished by the close of this week. 16:06:45 <hongbin> 2) hongbin to create an etherpad for collaborative development of our NativeAPI wiki page 16:06:54 <hongbin> Status: Complete 16:07:01 <hongbin> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-native-api Collaboration on working draft 16:07:27 <hongbin> It would be great if everyone to fresh their inputs there 16:07:38 <thomasem> Hello 16:07:40 <hongbin> We will discuss this topic in the midcyle 16:07:45 <thomasem> o/ 16:07:50 <hongbin> thomasem: hi 16:07:59 <thomasem> Sorry I'm late to the party 16:08:08 <hongbin> #topic Blueprint Review 16:08:19 <hongbin> Essential Blueprint Review 16:08:25 <juggler> hey thomasem! 16:08:42 <hongbin> Let me parse the essential BPs 16:09:01 <hongbin> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-tempest 16:09:20 <hongbin> dimtruck: do you have any update? 16:09:29 <dimtruck> all of the patches are closed 16:09:37 <dimtruck> we can set this blueprint to completed 16:09:44 <dimtruck> i couldn't get ahold of adrian to do that 16:09:50 <dimtruck> not sure if anyone else has the powers 16:10:24 <hongbin> dimtruck: marked it as implemented 16:10:31 <dimtruck> you are awesome! thank you! 16:10:49 <hongbin> dimtruck: np. Thanks for your work! It is amazing 16:11:05 <dimtruck> :D 16:11:12 <hongbin> Next one 16:11:16 <hongbin> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-troubleshooting-guide 16:11:31 <hongbin> Tango|2: do you have any update to share? 16:11:42 <Tango|2> Still pretty slow progress there 16:11:58 <Tango|2> Of the sections in the outline, 11 needs to start from scratch, 7 done or in progress 16:12:15 <hongbin> Tango|2: ACK 16:12:48 <Tango|2> If anyone has expertise in debugging, please jump in and help. 16:13:19 <hongbin> Yes, definitely. Docs is not a fun work, but it is required for the project 16:13:33 <hongbin> Essential for a project to succeed 16:13:50 <Tango|2> And get user adoption 16:13:58 <hongbin> Any help on that would be greatly appreciated 16:14:15 <hongbin> OK. Next one 16:14:18 <hongbin> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide 16:14:28 <Tango|2> Similarly, slow progress: 16:14:30 <Tango|2> 7 sections need to start from scratch, 7 sections are done, have existing doc, or in progress 16:15:02 <hongbin> Tango|2: There are a few users asked for installation guide, does it cover in the user guide? 16:15:18 <hongbin> or we need a new BP for that? 16:15:46 <Tango|2> I think OpenStack has a general doc for this 16:16:19 <Tango|2> We should look to see how other projects do their installation guide and have it included in the general instruction 16:16:41 <Tango|2> So I would guess we want a separate BP 16:16:49 <hongbin> Tango|2: ACK 16:16:59 <Tango|2> I will follow up on this 16:17:08 <hongbin> #action hongbin create a BP for creating an installation guide 16:17:24 <hongbin> OK. Last BP 16:17:34 <hongbin> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/resource-quota 16:18:09 <hongbin> Vilobh didn't show up in roll call 16:18:14 <hongbin> I guess we can skip it 16:18:38 <hongbin> Any other Blueprints, Bugs, Specs, and other work items to be discussed as a team? 16:19:45 <hongbin> silent... 16:19:53 <hongbin> #topic Open Discussion 16:19:53 <dimtruck> :) 16:20:12 <dimtruck> i think people are excited to have these discussions in person 16:20:34 <hongbin> definitely. Midcyle will be on this week 16:20:43 <wanghua> should Magnum add some operational features for COE 16:21:03 <hongbin> wanghua: please elaborate 16:21:25 <wanghua> for example, collect logs, upgrade COE, modify configuration for COE 16:21:52 <Tango|2> wanghua: Definitely. We need to shift focus from deployment to lifecycle operations 16:22:20 <wanghua> I think these features are important in production. 16:22:24 <Tango|2> These are more important for cloud providers 16:22:32 <dimtruck> we sort of are adding this in some places already (copying logs on error, for example) but it'd be nice to have it as part of a project 16:22:36 <dimtruck> so definite +1 16:23:00 <Tango|2> Is this subject already on the schedule for the midcycle? 16:23:04 <coreyob> +1 on lifecycle of the COE. For providers, being able to apply updates or configuration changes to address bugs and security issues as they arise is critical 16:24:03 <hongbin> It looks managing lifecycle of COE is a consesus 16:24:19 <dimtruck> Tango|2: it's not 16:24:33 <Tango|2> I think on day 2, at 10-11 16:24:42 <wanghua> So we should add it into the midcycle agenda 16:24:50 <dimtruck> yup :), you're right 16:24:57 <dimtruck> 10:00 - 11:00 Operational Concerns: Handling Running Bays 16:25:19 <hongbin> Great! 16:25:19 <Tango|2> Operational concerns: we should brainstorm and list the operations needed 16:25:30 <hongbin> Tango|2: +1 16:26:40 <hongbin> Tango|2: we could do that in the midcycle 16:26:53 <Tango|2> Sounds good 16:27:08 <dimtruck> i updated some of the things that wanghua brought up 16:27:14 <dimtruck> but yeah, we can go from there 16:27:30 <hongbin> dimtruck: thx 16:28:33 <juggler> any info yet on the Google hangout link for remote participation? 16:29:03 <hongbin> juggler: not sure from me 16:29:49 <juggler> ok just wondering 16:30:48 <hongbin> Maybe we could take a look at the midcycle agenda here 16:30:50 <hongbin> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-mitaka-midcycle-topics 16:31:07 <hongbin> Is everyone happy on this agenda? 16:31:18 <hongbin> Please feel to advice if anything needs to be fixed 16:31:46 <dimtruck> juggler: from what i understand, they won't know until they check the rooms and the feasibility of having remote participation 16:32:05 <thomasem> Ahhh, okay 16:32:07 <thomasem> that makes sense 16:32:27 <Tango|2> I guess as long as there is external internet connection, we should be able to set up a web session 16:32:37 <juggler> dimtruck ok. if they can update the meetup page as more info arises then: http://www.meetup.com/openstack/events/224950334/ 16:33:49 <juggler> perhaps an agenda entry is needed as a gentle reminder to do so? 16:35:06 <hongbin> juggler: added a session in the etherpad 16:35:26 <hongbin> we can update the session once we have further information 16:35:34 <juggler> hongbin: thanks! 16:36:34 <hongbin> Any other item our team members want to discuss? 16:36:49 <hongbin> If none, we could wrap up earlier 16:37:02 <dimtruck> not from me :) excited for what comes out of the midcycle :) 16:37:16 <hongbin> ya 16:37:25 <juggler> :) 16:37:36 <hongbin> Hi adrian_otto 16:37:41 <adrian_otto> hi, thanks. 16:37:58 <hongbin> adrian_otto: we are in an open discussion 16:38:21 <adrian_otto> ok 16:38:31 <hongbin> adrian_otto: we discussed the remote session in the midcycle 16:38:41 <hongbin> adrian_otto: do you have any information? 16:40:03 <adrian_otto> not yet. 16:40:36 <hongbin> adrian_otto: ack 16:40:38 <adrian_otto> is Tom present in this meeting? 16:40:48 <hongbin> he didn't show up in roll call 16:40:54 <adrian_otto> he may be traveling today also. 16:41:43 <adrian_otto> I'll check in with him, and the person assisting him to sort that out. if you plan to attend remotely, please RSVP on eventbrite as a remote. 16:41:59 <adrian_otto> and I'll be sure to email all of you participation information, and post it on the Midcycle wiki page. 16:42:17 <juggler> thanks 16:43:21 <hongbin> adrian_otto: thank you. I guess we are close to wrap up right now. Any other information you would like to share? 16:43:37 <thomasem> Think we're all ready to get in a room and talk at eachother. 16:43:42 <thomasem> :) 16:43:51 <thomasem> in person 16:44:57 <Tango|2> How many are planning to come? 16:44:57 <adrian_otto> yes, I look forward to seeing many of you this week. 16:45:08 <adrian_otto> a dozen have entered RSVP 16:45:20 <adrian_otto> for in-person. I did not look at remotes yet. 16:45:31 <hongbin> cool 16:45:32 <Tango|2> Nice,a good group. 16:45:39 <juggler> looks like 200+ for remote 16:45:50 <juggler> 250+ correction 16:46:23 <adrian_otto> you must be kidding 16:46:32 <juggler> http://www.meetup.com/openstack/events/224950334/ 16:46:45 <thomasem> Whoa 16:46:55 <coreyob> apparently bots like magnum? 16:46:55 <juggler> people might've just clicked RSVP but might not show up :) 16:46:58 <juggler> hard to say 16:47:22 <juggler> hope there's e-swag lol ;) 16:47:29 <adrian_otto> we have 12 in person and 2 registered as remotes 16:47:42 <adrian_otto> that's about right… as the remotes tend to register the day of. 16:48:12 <adrian_otto> oh, that's in addition to the Midcyle event 16:48:13 <coreyob> oh that meetup is the openstack meetup, not the midcycle. got it 16:48:18 <adrian_otto> that will actually be havily attended 16:48:30 <juggler> ah 16:48:33 <adrian_otto> yes, an audience of 200+ is possible there. 16:49:13 <adrian_otto> the OpenStack group in the bay area has nearly 6000 members in it. 16:50:32 <adrian_otto> thanks hongbin for running today's team meeting. I really appreciate it. 16:50:42 <hongbin> adrian_otto: my pleasure 16:50:49 <hongbin> Let's wrap up then 16:50:57 <hongbin> #endmeeting